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    I'm eating it. Still rooting for the kid though. Not like he needed anymore motivation...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyManHali View Post
    But the LT position is impact. The problem is we have a LT in place who we are trying to sign long term. Show me when a RT was selected with the first pick with the intention of starting him at RT, not because he was a bust.
    Trying to but haven't been able to. Nor were the Dolphins So why assume you will be able to work out that deal and pass on a player you think can come in and help you. Worst case for us we resign Albert fisher ends up playing RT and we have one of the best o lines in the league. That's if we "wasted our pick" on a RT This helps us far more then taking a chance in a weak QB class that your going to hit the lottery. You're so focused on the here and now that's just not the way to run a good football team. Good teams look ahead and plan ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyManHali View Post
    But the LT position is impact. The problem is we have a LT in place who we are trying to sign long term. Show me when a RT was selected with the first pick with the intention of starting him at RT, not because he was a bust.
    Reid has said he wants the best 5 guys on that line and he doesn't necessarily care where they line up. Albert is an above average LT with the capability of being an elite RT. Fisher has the capacity to be an elite LT. Why wouldn't Reid try to get Albert to sign long-term if he has the chance to have elite OTs at both ends? I think you're assuming too much if you think the Chiefs' goal is to sign Albert long-term to play the left side. To your point, an NFL franchise isn't going to spend the #1 pick on a RT. They're probably doing everything they can to get him to sign long-term with the intention of moving him to another position. If Albert is getting paid close to what he wants, I can't see him having too big of a problem with the move. By maintaing the position of "I'm a left tackle," he only sets his value. If he says he's willing to move to another position, the Chiefs or any other team are going to try and pay him as such. He wants LT money. If the Chiefs want to keep him, they're gonna have to give it to him. Once he gets that contract, I think he'll be willing to make a move for the good of the team that just committed to him long term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matthewschiefs View Post
    Trying to but haven't been able to. Nor were the Dolphins So why assume you will be able to work out that deal and pass on a player you think can come in and help you. Worst case for us we resign Albert fisher ends up playing RT and we have one of the best o lines in the league. That's if we "wasted our pick" on a RT This helps us far more then taking a chance in a weak QB class that your going to hit the lottery. You're so focused on the here and now that's just not the way to run a good football team. Good teams look ahead and plan ahead.
    What? Who wanted to draft a qb and develop him for the future? Who wants our draft picks that we spent on Alex Smith back so we can develop those players? Me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyManHali View Post
    What? Who wanted to draft a qb and develop him for the future? Who wants our draft picks that we spent on Alex Smith back so we can develop those players? Me.
    Right. But your valuation is horribly off target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaschief View Post
    Reid has said he wants the best 5 guys on that line and he doesn't necessarily care where they line up. Albert is an above average LT with the capability of being an elite RT. Fisher has the capacity to be an elite LT. Why wouldn't Reid try to get Albert to sign long-term if he has the chance to have elite OTs at both ends? I think you're assuming too much if you think the Chiefs' goal is to sign Albert long-term to play the left side. To your point, an NFL franchise isn't going to spend the #1 pick on a RT. They're probably doing everything they can to get him to sign long-term with the intention of moving him to another position. If Albert is getting paid close to what he wants, I can't see him having too big of a problem with the move. By maintaing the position of "I'm a left tackle," he only sets his value. If he says he's willing to move to another position, the Chiefs or any other team are going to try and pay him as such. He wants LT money. If the Chiefs want to keep him, they're gonna have to give it to him. Once he gets that contract, I think he'll be willing to make a move for the good of the team that just committed to him long term.
    Why would Reid replace a proven LT with an unproven rookie at the most important position on the line? Fisher has started at right tackle, has albert? Albert has already expressed his disapproval of being moved from the LT position which is why I don't see it happening as long as Albert is here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaschief View Post
    Reid has said he wants the best 5 guys on that line and he doesn't necessarily care where they line up. Albert is an above average LT with the capability of being an elite RT. Fisher has the capacity to be an elite LT. Why wouldn't Reid try to get Albert to sign long-term if he has the chance to have elite OTs at both ends? I think you're assuming too much if you think the Chiefs' goal is to sign Albert long-term to play the left side. To your point, an NFL franchise isn't going to spend the #1 pick on a RT. They're probably doing everything they can to get him to sign long-term with the intention of moving him to another position. If Albert is getting paid close to what he wants, I can't see him having too big of a problem with the move. By maintaing the position of "I'm a left tackle," he only sets his value. If he says he's willing to move to another position, the Chiefs or any other team are going to try and pay him as such. He wants LT money. If the Chiefs want to keep him, they're gonna have to give it to him. Once he gets that contract, I think he'll be willing to make a move for the good of the team that just committed to him long term.
    This YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT THE QB. It doesn't matter who you have under center if he's getting hit as soon as the ball is snapped that's what we saw at times last year. But why draft someone who you think can be a stand out RT or LT when you can draft a qb your 50/50 on at best being able to be the guy right?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyManHali View Post
    What? Who wanted to draft a qb and develop him for the future? Who wants our draft picks that we spent on Alex Smith back so we can develop those players? Me.
    Forgive me I forgot to mention you'r so focused on the QB spot and the here and now. You want to tell me that in a QB class as weak as this one drafting a guy who you think is going to be a stand out player on the O line is that much worse then a qb who your at best 50/50 on thinking he could be the guy really?

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    Texas Chief and MatthewsChiefs, I want your expectations of Alex Smith this season. I want to know what to expect from him and if he doesn't meet those expectations, I expect disapproval from both of you. Go.
    Last edited by MyManHali; 05-02-2013 at 01:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matthewschiefs View Post
    This YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT THE QB. It doesn't matter who you have under center if he's getting hit as soon as the ball is snapped that's what we saw at times last year. But why draft someone who you think can be a stand out RT or LT when you can draft a qb your 50/50 on at best being able to be the guy right?



    Forgive me I forgot to mention you'r so focused on the QB spot and the here and now. You want to tell me that in a QB class as weak as this one drafting a guy who you think is going to be a stand out player on the O line is that much worse then a qb who your at best 50/50 on thinking he could be the guy really?
    What makes the qb 50/50 and the offensive lineman a sure thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyManHali View Post
    Why would Reid replace a proven LT with an unproven rookie at the most important position on the line? Fisher has started at right tackle, has albert? Albert has already expressed his disproval of being moved from the LT position which is why I don't see it happening as long as Albert is here.
    Because Fisher is better? Just because Albert is a proven commodity doesn't mean the Chiefs can't upgrade at that position. You put the best player at the most important position. You don't spend 3000 draft points on a RT when you already have Stephenson in the fold who could man that position at or above an average NFL level. Albert's stance has to be resolute if he wants to land the contract he's asking for. If he says he'll play RT or OG, his value diminishes. If he signs longterm with the Chiefs, he'll being doing so with the understanding that there's a very good likelihood that he'll be moved.

    NFL players are professional players. A guy can say anything he wants about where he plays, but the bottom line is that he's doing this for a paycheck. He's supporting his family. If he wants to get paid, he'll play at the highest possible level he can wherever the coaching staff places him. If he pouts and throws a tantrum, he lowers his value. If he doesn't perform at the best of his ability, he lowers his value. If he becomes a locker room distraction, he lowers his value. If he refuses to play, he doesn't get paid AND lowers his value. All of those things will diminish his chances at signing the contract he wants as a free agent in 2014. However, like I said, if he signs longterm, he'll be doing so understanding his position is no longer on the left side.

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    What makes the qb 50/50 and the offensive lineman a sure thing?

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