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    As much as I love to talk about the Chiefs, sometimes they are not doing much to warrant a discussion, so I thought a NFL thread would be great. Coach, if you feel this doesn't belond here, then go ahead and move it or lock it up. Use this thread for other teams/players news and other game discussions.

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    So Rodgers just got paid, do you think Andrew Luck, RGIII or Russel Wilson will break that number when their contract talk comes up (or Kaep)

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    Quote Originally Posted by doobs_05 View Post
    So Rodgers just got paid, do you think Andrew Luck, RGIII or Russel Wilson will break that number when their contract talk comes up (or Kaep)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryfo18 View Post
    Yes.
    Will they ever limit the amount a player can be paid you think?

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    Also what are your guys thoughts on the Redskins changing their name, does it need to happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by doobs_05 View Post
    Will they ever limit the amount a player can be paid you think?
    I doubt this ever happens. I'm sure that the NFLPA would never agree to something like that.
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    Supposedly there was a new poll out that people would be willing to accept a change of name to the Redtails (as in a redtail hawk). It would let them keep the feathers on their logo, as well as their team colors, but be more PC.

    Im kinda torn on it. I think it is insulting. I mean, you wouldnt allow a team to be called the LA wetbacks, San Fran Chinks, Georgia N-words, etc and it is pretty much the same thing. That having been said, I dont think redskin is actually used as a slur against Native Americans anymore (then again I am not connected to the Native American community). I wouldnt be opposed to a change, and I think it is just a matter of time for when it will happen.

    I also dont think this has any implications on the Chiefs. Chiefs is a title in Native American culture, it isnt an insult, so I would think we would be ok. This argument came up in my high school (The Braves) and it got shot down because of the fact that a brave was honorable (As long as we didnt have a mascot that made an idiot of himself dressed in native american garb).

    I know the team/NFL/ apparel companies do not want the change because it would come at a huge cost of re-designing logos, merchandise, discarded of already manufactured merchandise, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jap1 View Post
    Supposedly there was a new poll out that people would be willing to accept a change of name to the Redtails (as in a redtail hawk). It would let them keep the feathers on their logo, as well as their team colors, but be more PC.

    Im kinda torn on it. I think it is insulting. I mean, you wouldnt allow a team to be called the LA wetbacks, San Fran Chinks, Georgia N-words, etc and it is pretty much the same thing. That having been said, I dont think redskin is actually used as a slur against Native Americans anymore (then again I am not connected to the Native American community). I wouldnt be opposed to a change, and I think it is just a matter of time for when it will happen.

    I also dont think this has any implications on the Chiefs. Chiefs is a title in Native American culture, it isnt an insult, so I would think we would be ok. This argument came up in my high school (The Braves) and it got shot down because of the fact that a brave was honorable (As long as we didnt have a mascot that made an idiot of himself dressed in native american garb).

    I know the team/NFL/ apparel companies do not want the change because it would come at a huge cost of re-designing logos, merchandise, discarded of already manufactured merchandise, etc.
    I think they should change it to the Washington Americans, and keep the logo and colors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jap1 View Post
    Supposedly there was a new poll out that people would be willing to accept a change of name to the Redtails (as in a redtail hawk). It would let them keep the feathers on their logo, as well as their team colors, but be more PC.

    Im kinda torn on it. I think it is insulting. I mean, you wouldnt allow a team to be called the LA wetbacks, San Fran Chinks, Georgia N-words, etc and it is pretty much the same thing. That having been said, I dont think redskin is actually used as a slur against Native Americans anymore (then again I am not connected to the Native American community). I wouldnt be opposed to a change, and I think it is just a matter of time for when it will happen.

    I also dont think this has any implications on the Chiefs. Chiefs is a title in Native American culture, it isnt an insult, so I would think we would be ok. This argument came up in my high school (The Braves) and it got shot down because of the fact that a brave was honorable (As long as we didnt have a mascot that made an idiot of himself dressed in native american garb).

    I know the team/NFL/ apparel companies do not want the change because it would come at a huge cost of re-designing logos, merchandise, discarded of already manufactured merchandise, etc.
    Redskins is not used as a slur here in montana ( i will not state what people do use). I was okay with the name, but i do see where people are coming from with the name being bad. North Dakota just made the Fighting Sioux change their name, and i don't see a problem with that name, but i'm white and have not walked a mile in native american shoes.

    Also, I think the ATL Braves are not allowed to use the screaming indian logo anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBV_Eagle_Bull View Post
    I think they should change it to the Washington Americans, and keep the logo and colors.
    First time I read that I thought, how could you keep the logo and colors, wouldn't it make more sense to change it to red white and blue. Then I realized that you meant it that way, since Native Americans are the ORIGINAL Americans (hence the native part, duh). Ironically, I know a lot of ignorant and bigoted people (none of them i consider friends) who would have a sh!t fit if they did that. Then again I like pissing them off, so I'm all for it!

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