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    Post Webnews: If Chiefs go 8-8, they owe 49ers a second


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    By Darin Gantt
    The 49ers used Kansas City’s second-round pick this year to add another pick in the third round next year. And depending on how the Chiefs play, it could net the 49ers yet another second-rounder next year. Peter King of Sports Illustrated has filled in the blanks on the conditional 2014 pick the Chiefs owe the… Read more…

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    Quote Originally Posted by doobs_05 View Post


    Just a reason

    And yes i know a bunch of bust come out of the first round, this is just a picture i see when people talk about drafting a first round QB


    Don't worry, that isn't even a good enough reason to convince anyone on this board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doobs_05 View Post


    Just a reason

    And yes i know a bunch of bust come out of the first round, this is just a picture i see when people talk about drafting a first round QB
    This is incorrect as far as an assessment goes. Plunkett, Elway, Young, Eli Manning, Dawson, Dilfer, and Williams don't count. They didn't win SB's for the teams that drafted them. They were acquired via trade or FA, making where they were drafted irrelevant, so that disqualifies them. That leaves only nine (9) that won SB's for the teams that drafted said QB's in 1st round.

    It also further illustrates my point that it doesn't matter where Alex Smith was drafted or what happened with the 49ers -- it's what happens with the Chiefs that counts, now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyManHali View Post
    Don't worry, that isn't even a good enough reason to convince anyone on this board.
    You do know that the QB we currently have was drafted 1st overall right. Yet you still gripe about it
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    I stand corrected. That list should include 10 QB's that were drafted by their teams that won SB's. Joe Flacco was left off that list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brdempsey69 View Post
    This is incorrect as far as an assessment goes. Plunkett, Elway, Young, Eli Manning, Dawson, Dilfer, and Williams don't count. They didn't win SB's for the teams that drafted them. They were acquired via trade or FA, making where they were drafted irrelevant, so that disqualifies them. That leaves only nine (9) that won SB's for the teams that drafted said QB's in 1st round.

    It also further illustrates my point that it doesn't matter where Alex Smith was drafted or what happened with the 49ers -- it's what happens with the Chiefs that counts, now.


    Elway/manning were acquired through the draft, it's fine with me. The point of that chart is to show that you have a more realistic chance at winning a super bowl with a first round pick than with a pick in the later rounds, closing your eyes and crossing your fingers, praying that a ufa or 6th round pick works out to be your franchise qb.

    But don't worry, your 8 year plan of avoiding risk has worked out perfectly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matthewschiefs View Post
    You do know that the QB we currently have was drafted 1st overall right. Yet you still gripe about it

    Looking back do you really think he would of gone first overall? If coaches looked at his entire career he wouldn't of even gone in the second round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyManHali View Post
    Elway/manning were acquired through the draft, it's fine with me. The point of that chart is to show that you have a more realistic chance at winning a super bowl with a first round pick than with a pick in the later rounds, closing your eyes and crossing your fingers, praying that a ufa or 6th round pick works out to be your franchise qb.

    But don't worry, your 8 year plan of avoiding risk has worked out perfectly.
    They were traded THE SAME WAY ALEX SMITH WAS. Stop it stop twisting it just to fit your opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyManHali View Post
    Elway/manning were acquired through the draft, it's fine with me. The point of that chart is to show that you have a more realistic chance at winning a super bowl with a first round pick than with a pick in the later rounds, closing your eyes and crossing your fingers, praying that a ufa or 6th round pick works out to be your franchise qb.

    But don't worry, your 8 year plan of avoiding risk has worked out perfectly.
    What 8 year plan? WTF are you talking about? They could still draft a QB in round 1 in future drafts. 2013 wasn't the year to do it.

    Speaking of decade long plans, tell us, how did NOT drafting O-Lineman in the top 3 rounds from 2000 through 2009, except for Albert in 2008, work out?

    ANSWER: Worst record of any team in the AFC since 2007 and no QB was going to have any success playing behind that cast of misfits that you saw on the O-Line after Roaf and Shields retired & only recently are they getting around to trying to fix that and drafting a guy like Fisher who has the potential to be ELITE was way overdue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matthewschiefs View Post
    They were traded THE SAME WAY ALEX SMITH WAS. Stop it stop twisting it just to fit your opinion.




    Really? The same? We acquired Alex Smith through the draft? Didn't he already play 8 seasons? If you can't tell the difference between Eli Manning being traded on draft day, brought up in the Giants organization from day 1 and another quarterback who played 8 seasons in another organization then something is wrong with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brdempsey69 View Post
    What 8 year plan? WTF are you talking about? They could still draft a QB in round 1 in future drafts. 2013 wasn't the year to do it.

    Speaking of decade long plans, tell us, how did NOT drafting O-Lineman in the top 3 rounds from 2000 through 2009, except for Albert in 2008, work out?

    ANSWER: Worst record of any team in the AFC since 2007 and no QB was going to have any success playing behind that cast of misfits that you saw on the O-Line after Roaf and Shields retired & only recently are they getting around to trying to fix that and drafting a guy like Fisher who has the potential to be ELITE was way overdue.


    You do realize you don't need a fantastic line to go to the super bowl. The Ravens last year didn't have even a top 10 line, same with the giants in 2011. It's been proven you don't need a great line to get there, but you do need a qb who can put up points.

    But let's avoid risk and keep playing it safe, we just might get back up to .500!

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