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    I have the ticket. I usually record the game of the Chiefs' next week's opponent. This week's game was obviously the Titans/Jets game. I couldn't wait to watch this game tonight (for obvious reasons).

    Let me start off by saying that I acknowledge that I was wrong about Geno Smith. Geno is not a younger version of Alex Smith as I had argued earlier this spring based off career numbers... Geno is much worse than that. The Titans do NOT have much of a pass rush but Geno just could not make any good decisions and their O-line made the Titans look MUCH better than they actually are. 4 turnovers (almost 4 more) and sacked 5x (one sack SHOULD'VE been a safety after retreating 15 yards and another was turned into a strip 6). Again, the Titans are NOT a good pass rushing team.

    No, Geno is not a younger version of Alex... he's some kind of hybrid of Vince Young, Matt Cassel, and Mark Sanchez. Geno finished the day with a 7.8 QBR and owns a 65 QBR (before today) on the season. The only 2 QBs worse than him this year no longer have a job (Freeman/Weeden). He holds the 2nd worst comp % (before today), wedged right between Freeman and Weeden. BUT his yards per attempt rank 9th in the league at 7.85 which, I guess means he's better than Tom Brady who sits worst in the league at 5.5... well, never mind because he also leads the league in INTs (8)... and that's also not including multiple fumbles.

    It really is too bad that Tim Tebow isn't still around... at least Geno would have some competetion for worst player in the league.

    "... and that's all I have to say about that" - Forrest Gump


    Now, about the Titans. There is NOTHING about the Tennessee Titans that strikes fear in their opponent's heart. Locker wasn't all that great to begin with, but now they've lost their starting QB. Shut down Chris Johnson and force Ryan Fitzpatrick to beat you. The Titans, much like the Chiefs have feasted on their turnover ratio. They have yet to turn the ball over this season. Pretty impressive 4 games in. Stats aren't updated yet, but I think the Chiefs are sitting at +10 in TO dif. while the Titans are at +9. They've beaten 0-4 Pittsburgh (-11), lost in overtime to Houston (-4), Beat SD (-3), and beat the Jets (-10). The Chiefs have beaten Jax (-4), Dallas (+3), Philly (-2), and NYG (-9). Both teams are practically winning the same way.

    However, there are a few differences to these two teams. Tennessee has the 29th ranked offense that will have to square off against a Chiefs defense that is a top 5 unit that is only giving up 10pts/gm and leading the league in sacks... and they'll have to do it with their backup QB.

    That's not to say the Titans' defense is horrible. But it's not like they were playing elite offenses like those in the NFC East, either. Todd Haley in Pittsburgh... we know exactly what kind of offense THAT is (28th in yards, 30th in pts). They lost to the only "good" offense they played (Houston 10th yards/16th pts). San Diego is mid pack and NYJ is bottom 3rd. Counter that with Chiefs opponents like Philly who is 2nd in yards and 5th in points or Dallas who is top 10 in both categories as well, and you see a Chiefs defense that has been tested. The Giants are bottom quarter and the Jags are dead last, so take that as you will.

    The Chiefs offense is right at league average after the Giants game. They're not going to blow out the the Titan's defense. You can expect a similar performance to what we saw against Dallas. The key to this game is going to be turnovers. I know that's a pretty big key to every game, but for the Chiefs and Titans, it's even more important because that is how both teams have been winning. Can the Titans' offense with back QB Fitzpatrick score enough on a top ranked Chiefs defense if the Chiefs aren't turning the ball over? We've seen the Chiefs score against a good Dallas defense a couple times. The Giants don't have a horrible defensive unit either. The Jets have a really good defense but Geno Smith kept putting them in bad situations and made the game look much worse than it actually was for the Jets defense. Reminded me a lot of what we saw from the Chiefs last season. QB just couldn't stop turning the ball over and just killed the defense. Houston has a great defense as well and the Titans took them to overtime. The Titans have the 29th ranked offense, but they can move and score when they get an opportunity. A big question for them is who's going to be their QB?

    Next Sunday, you're going to see a league average Chiefs offense against a top 10 Tennessee defense. You're also going to see a league bottom third Tennessee offense with a new QB against a top 3 Chiefs defense. Again, nothing on that Titans team strikes fear in your heart. Stop Chris Johnson on offense and know where the best safety in the league is on their defense and you can pretty much dictate what you want to do. Going into next Sunday, I EXPECT the Chiefs to win. I was more worried about the last 3 games than I am about the Titans. I don't see Alex Smith and this offense giving the Titans turnovers to prey on. But I also don't see the Titans giving the Chiefs any gifts either. So when you match up offenses v. defenses, I think the Chiefs have a very large advantage.

    Take a look at that schedule, Chiefs fans. Things don't get any easier the rest of the season. Oakland is playing well, Houston is always good. Cleveland is suddenly worth noticing. Playing in Buffalo always sucks for the Chiefs. Then Denver, SD, Denver isn't something to look forward to. As good as things may look right now, don't expect the Chiefs to just roll through their schedule and not have any issues. The offense is looking better each week and if the defense can stay healthy, things could get very exciting, but the Chiefs play good teams the rest of the season. Make no mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaschief View Post
    Is there such a thing as a digital rubber stamp? Because this has been the "company line" for almost a year now. You would think that after so many complaints and loss of participation by some of the longer-tenured members of this site, y'all would make a move to preserve the forums for what they were meant to be: a place where Chiefs FANS can CHEER ON their team. I don't think it's too much to expect "fans" to be excited about their team's performance, ESPECIALLY when that team is sitting at 4-0. This persistent negativity while the team is undefeated is ridiculous. His positions hold ZERO merit and have recently been propped up by straight out lies. Simply putting this character on the "ignore" list would allow visiting members to think he is representative of our forum when in actuallity, he is a cancer. Watching him to spew his hate for this team is not something I or some of the other members on this forum are going to allow to go unchecked.


    It's pretty sad when the members have more respect and pride for this website and forum than the actual owners and administration.
    To the mods and admins, texaschief makes a valid point. There's a difference between one having an opinion as opposed to one fabricating lies to support their phony arguments. MMH is guilty of the 2nd instance & when one has to resort to that, then they aren't even remotely close to thinking rationally & they need to go elsewhere.

    I personally know a guy that also is a Chiefs fan that also resorts fabricating lies to support his arguments & even traveled from the Pacific NW to Arrowhead with him to see two Chiefs games, but in Oct. of 2012, I got fed up with his nonsense & gave him a permanent exit stage left and haven't seen or spoken with him since, nor do I miss his continual regurgitated nonsense.

    MMH has clearly got his head so far up Geno Smith's arse that every time Geno farts, MMH's shoes get blown off his feet -- and that's putting it mildly.

    Add to that, his continued hatred of Alex Smith and Eric Fisher is also very grievous to many, and in no way, shape, or form justifiable. The reality is, if Smith and Fisher are successful for the Chiefs, it helps them a LOT, but yet, MMH wants them to fail because they aren't his personal choices and he's made that abundantly clear.

    If MMH is allowed to stay, then expect the flame wars to erupt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaschief View Post
    Is there such a thing as a digital rubber stamp? Because this has been the "company line" for almost a year now. You would think that after so many complaints and loss of participation by some of the longer-tenured members of this site, y'all would make a move to preserve the forums for what they were meant to be: a place where Chiefs FANS can CHEER ON their team. I don't think it's too much to expect "fans" to be excited about their team's performance, ESPECIALLY when that team is sitting at 4-0. This persistent negativity while the team is undefeated is ridiculous. His positions hold ZERO merit and have recently been propped up by straight out lies. Simply putting this character on the "ignore" list would allow visiting members to think he is representative of our forum when in actuallity, he is a cancer. Watching him to spew his hate for this team is not something I or some of the other members on this forum are going to allow to go unchecked.


    It's pretty sad when the members have more respect and pride for this website and forum than the actual owners and administration.
    Quote Originally Posted by brdempsey69 View Post
    To the mods and admins, texaschief makes a valid point. There's a difference between one having an opinion as opposed to one fabricating lies to support their phony arguments. MMH is guilty of the 2nd instance & when one has to resort to that, then they aren't even remotely close to thinking rationally & they need to go elsewhere.

    I personally know a guy that also is a Chiefs fan that also resorts fabricating lies to support his arguments & even traveled from the Pacific NW to Arrowhead with him to see two Chiefs games, but in Oct. of 2012, I got fed up with his nonsense & gave him a permanent exit stage left and haven't seen or spoken with him since, nor do I miss his continual regurgitated nonsense.

    MMH has clearly got his head so far up Geno Smith's arse that every time Geno farts, MMH's shoes get blown off his feet -- and that's putting it mildly.

    Add to that, his continued hatred of Alex Smith and Eric Fisher is also very grievous to many, and in no way, shape, or form justifiable. The reality is, if Smith and Fisher are successful for the Chiefs, it helps them a LOT, but yet, MMH wants them to fail because they aren't his personal choices and he's made that abundantly clear.

    If MMH is allowed to stay, then expect the flame wars to erupt.
    I understand and we are giving the situation due attention, and that is all I will say in an open forum on the subject. Thank you both for your input.

    To texaschief: I have always respected you, and would ask, as a friend, that if you have anything further to ad about where I stand regarding board rules then please PM me.

    Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefster View Post
    I understand and we are giving the situation due attention, and that is all I will say in an open forum on the subject. Thank you both for your input.

    To texaschief: I have always respected you, and would ask, as a friend, that if you have anything further to ad about where I stand regarding board rules then please PM me.

    Thanks again.
    My response was not intended to be any kind of slight to you specifically. You are not the only mod on this site. I hope you did not take my comment personally and I'd like to publicly apologize if you were offended.



    Geno Smith should not still be a topic on this forum almost a year after the topic was brought about. Constantly bombarding players (for a team you supposedly cheer for) during a 5-0 season after years of HORRIBLE LOSING, shouldn't even be mentioned... even if the critisisms ARE true (which it's not).


    THIS TEAM IS 5-0!! Why are the members of this board constantly having to defend the team and themselves for actually liking this team?? Why are we having to talk about how much better Alex Smith is than Geno Smith EVERY WEEK? It makes no sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaschief View Post
    My response was not intended to be any kind of slight to you specifically. You are not the only mod on this site. I hope you did not take my comment personally and I'd like to publicly apologize if you were offended.



    Geno Smith should not still be a topic on this forum almost a year after the topic was brought about. Constantly bombarding players (for a team you supposedly cheer for) during a 5-0 season after years of HORRIBLE LOSING, shouldn't even be mentioned... even if the critisisms ARE true (which it's not).


    THIS TEAM IS 5-0!! Why are the members of this board constantly having to defend the team and themselves for actually liking this team?? Why are we having to talk about how much better Alex Smith is than Geno Smith EVERY WEEK? It makes no sense to me.


    Huh? HALF of this thread that YOU created is about Geno Smith.

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    Wow, he is looking good though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefster View Post
    I understand and we are giving the situation due attention, and that is all I will say in an open forum on the subject. Thank you both for your input.

    To texaschief: I have always respected you, and would ask, as a friend, that if you have anything further to ad about where I stand regarding board rules then please PM me.

    Thanks again.
    I have temporary taken action, we will review and make a decision. Feel free to PM me with your concerns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaschief View Post
    My response was not intended to be any kind of slight to you specifically. You are not the only mod on this site. I hope you did not take my comment personally and I'd like to publicly apologize if you were offended...
    ...No I get it bud, just trying to keep this from being hashed out in an open thread. I understand that it is an open forum issue but the solution needs to be worked out privately. I have an open door policy, so to speak, any member of the site is free to express whatever feelings they need to whether they be personal or not to me in a PM without fear of reprisal. There's no need for apologies.

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    I have temporary taken action, we will review and make a decision. Feel free to PM me with your concerns.
    Thank you TS, you have become my teacher!

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaschief View Post
    My response was not intended to be any kind of slight to you specifically. You are not the only mod on this site. I hope you did not take my comment personally and I'd like to publicly apologize if you were offended.



    Geno Smith should not still be a topic on this forum almost a year after the topic was brought about. Constantly bombarding players (for a team you supposedly cheer for) during a 5-0 season after years of HORRIBLE LOSING, shouldn't even be mentioned... even if the critisisms ARE true (which it's not).


    THIS TEAM IS 5-0!! Why are the members of this board constantly having to defend the team and themselves for actually liking this team?? Why are we having to talk about how much better Alex Smith is than Geno Smith EVERY WEEK? It makes no sense to me.
    Pm us Mods about issues, or lodge complaints thru reporting a post, that is when we are able to better make a decision. I also have a open door policy, if I do not get back to you, does not mean I am ignoring your concerns. The Mods do have our own communication channels, but we do not always have the time to read thru every thread and every post. Only when we receive reported post or pms from members, then we have something to go with. We are an open forum, and I agree about the constant negativity that comes from some, when we have yet to lose, and the bad influence that becomes to new members and members who will not post anymore. I joined this site because it was a fun site! That is what it will be! I am well know to be a Homer, and not a debater, sometime reading good debates are fun, but constant hate? I am done with that.

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