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    I have the ticket. I usually record the game of the Chiefs' next week's opponent. This week's game was obviously the Titans/Jets game. I couldn't wait to watch this game tonight (for obvious reasons).

    Let me start off by saying that I acknowledge that I was wrong about Geno Smith. Geno is not a younger version of Alex Smith as I had argued earlier this spring based off career numbers... Geno is much worse than that. The Titans do NOT have much of a pass rush but Geno just could not make any good decisions and their O-line made the Titans look MUCH better than they actually are. 4 turnovers (almost 4 more) and sacked 5x (one sack SHOULD'VE been a safety after retreating 15 yards and another was turned into a strip 6). Again, the Titans are NOT a good pass rushing team.

    No, Geno is not a younger version of Alex... he's some kind of hybrid of Vince Young, Matt Cassel, and Mark Sanchez. Geno finished the day with a 7.8 QBR and owns a 65 QBR (before today) on the season. The only 2 QBs worse than him this year no longer have a job (Freeman/Weeden). He holds the 2nd worst comp % (before today), wedged right between Freeman and Weeden. BUT his yards per attempt rank 9th in the league at 7.85 which, I guess means he's better than Tom Brady who sits worst in the league at 5.5... well, never mind because he also leads the league in INTs (8)... and that's also not including multiple fumbles.

    It really is too bad that Tim Tebow isn't still around... at least Geno would have some competetion for worst player in the league.

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    Now, about the Titans. There is NOTHING about the Tennessee Titans that strikes fear in their opponent's heart. Locker wasn't all that great to begin with, but now they've lost their starting QB. Shut down Chris Johnson and force Ryan Fitzpatrick to beat you. The Titans, much like the Chiefs have feasted on their turnover ratio. They have yet to turn the ball over this season. Pretty impressive 4 games in. Stats aren't updated yet, but I think the Chiefs are sitting at +10 in TO dif. while the Titans are at +9. They've beaten 0-4 Pittsburgh (-11), lost in overtime to Houston (-4), Beat SD (-3), and beat the Jets (-10). The Chiefs have beaten Jax (-4), Dallas (+3), Philly (-2), and NYG (-9). Both teams are practically winning the same way.

    However, there are a few differences to these two teams. Tennessee has the 29th ranked offense that will have to square off against a Chiefs defense that is a top 5 unit that is only giving up 10pts/gm and leading the league in sacks... and they'll have to do it with their backup QB.

    That's not to say the Titans' defense is horrible. But it's not like they were playing elite offenses like those in the NFC East, either. Todd Haley in Pittsburgh... we know exactly what kind of offense THAT is (28th in yards, 30th in pts). They lost to the only "good" offense they played (Houston 10th yards/16th pts). San Diego is mid pack and NYJ is bottom 3rd. Counter that with Chiefs opponents like Philly who is 2nd in yards and 5th in points or Dallas who is top 10 in both categories as well, and you see a Chiefs defense that has been tested. The Giants are bottom quarter and the Jags are dead last, so take that as you will.

    The Chiefs offense is right at league average after the Giants game. They're not going to blow out the the Titan's defense. You can expect a similar performance to what we saw against Dallas. The key to this game is going to be turnovers. I know that's a pretty big key to every game, but for the Chiefs and Titans, it's even more important because that is how both teams have been winning. Can the Titans' offense with back QB Fitzpatrick score enough on a top ranked Chiefs defense if the Chiefs aren't turning the ball over? We've seen the Chiefs score against a good Dallas defense a couple times. The Giants don't have a horrible defensive unit either. The Jets have a really good defense but Geno Smith kept putting them in bad situations and made the game look much worse than it actually was for the Jets defense. Reminded me a lot of what we saw from the Chiefs last season. QB just couldn't stop turning the ball over and just killed the defense. Houston has a great defense as well and the Titans took them to overtime. The Titans have the 29th ranked offense, but they can move and score when they get an opportunity. A big question for them is who's going to be their QB?

    Next Sunday, you're going to see a league average Chiefs offense against a top 10 Tennessee defense. You're also going to see a league bottom third Tennessee offense with a new QB against a top 3 Chiefs defense. Again, nothing on that Titans team strikes fear in your heart. Stop Chris Johnson on offense and know where the best safety in the league is on their defense and you can pretty much dictate what you want to do. Going into next Sunday, I EXPECT the Chiefs to win. I was more worried about the last 3 games than I am about the Titans. I don't see Alex Smith and this offense giving the Titans turnovers to prey on. But I also don't see the Titans giving the Chiefs any gifts either. So when you match up offenses v. defenses, I think the Chiefs have a very large advantage.

    Take a look at that schedule, Chiefs fans. Things don't get any easier the rest of the season. Oakland is playing well, Houston is always good. Cleveland is suddenly worth noticing. Playing in Buffalo always sucks for the Chiefs. Then Denver, SD, Denver isn't something to look forward to. As good as things may look right now, don't expect the Chiefs to just roll through their schedule and not have any issues. The offense is looking better each week and if the defense can stay healthy, things could get very exciting, but the Chiefs play good teams the rest of the season. Make no mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyManHali View Post
    Fisher has shown absolutely no promise. He hasn't had one good game.......
    That's absolute BS. He's shown a ton of promise. And he has had a couple of good games. This isn't fanboyism. I've watched him closely via NFL Game Rewind. No way have you watched him closely.

    The guy that Fisher played against last Sunday -- Justin Tuck -- was quoted as saying that Fisher has shown flashes of brilliance from what he had seen of Fisher on film, and it was easy to see why the Chiefs made Fisher the #1 overall pick. Tuck did next to nothing against Fisher in that 1st half last Sunday.

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    Outside of a falsestart Fisher and really the whole line was having there best game last week. Until he got a concussion in the old days he would have been right back out there but with the new standards he had to come out. The whole line has been a struggle this season really. Even the "top 5" Lt that we have hasn't been good. Why single out Fisher who's again not only a rookie but going through a position change. All be a it a slight change but any change to go along with being a rookie is big
    Exactly. ALL of the O-Line has had their struggles thus far, not just Fisher. I can truthfully say that Fisher has performed better in this season's first 4 games, then Eric Winston did at RT in his first 4 games in 2012. Winston had 6 years of NFL experience playing RT coming into 2012, while Fisher has just 4 games of NFL experience playing at RT, thus far. Big difference, there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brdempsey69 View Post
    That's absolute BS. He's shown a ton of promise. And he has had a couple of good games. This isn't fanboyism. I've watched him closely via NFL Game Rewind. No way have you watched him closely.

    The guy that Fisher played against last Sunday -- Justin Tuck -- was quoted as saying that Fisher has shown flashes of brilliance from what he had seen of Fisher on film, and it was easy to see why the Chiefs made Fisher the #1 overall pick. Tuck did next to nothing against Fisher in that 1st half last Sunday.

    Tuck hasn't done anything in a while. Fisher hasn't had one positive game according to an in depth analysis from PFF. He has been severely disappointing.

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    Well, it was nice while it lasted ...

    Hey, MMH, welcome back. Where have you been for the last few weeks?

    You come back and not one word about the Chiefs being 4-0, not one word about the defense giving up the 3rd fewest points in the NFL, not one word about our offense hardly ever turning the ball over. The first thing you have to say is:
    "So let me get this straight:
    Geno Smith ..." and you go right into criticizing Fisher. Couldn't you ease into hating our players a little bit?

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    Outside of a falsestart Fisher and really the whole line was having there best game last week. Until he got a concussion in the old days he would have been right back out there but with the new standards he had to come out. The whole line has been a struggle this season really. Even the "top 5" Lt that we have hasn't been good. Why single out Fisher who's again not only a rookie but going through a position change. All be a it a slight change but any change to go along with being a rookie is big

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    We must single him out because he was the top player taken in the entire draft. Despite myself not being too happy about Fisher, I will say I have been definitely wrong about Alex Smith. He has played well so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopekaRoy View Post
    Well, it was nice while it lasted ...

    Hey, MMH, welcome back. Where have you been for the last few weeks?

    You come back and not one word about the Chiefs being 4-0, not one word about the defense giving up the 3rd fewest points in the NFL, not one word about our offense hardly ever turning the ball over. The first thing you have to say is:
    "So let me get this straight:
    Geno Smith ..." and you go right into criticizing Fisher. Couldn't you ease into hating our players a little bit?

    Didn't you make a bet with someone that if the Chiefs started 4-0 you would leave ChiefsCrowd for good?



    I am in my first year of law school and I read outside of class about 6-8 hours every day so time is short. I might not even be able to watch the game on Sunday.

    I just gave Alex props in a previous post. The deal was if Alex Smith throws more than 25 touchdowns I am gone. If he doesn't TexasChief leaves, we will see what happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyManHali View Post
    Tuck hasn't done anything in a while. Fisher hasn't had one positive game according to an in depth analysis from PFF. He has been severely disappointing.
    I don't put much stalk in PFF or any other media outlet with this team. They're all about Denver. Just this week I hear talk on how Denver has the best D in the division when the Chiefs have allowed less then half the points they have and less points against both common oppents I highly doubt they really put much time in there evulation on him and you just told me tonight how weak oppents still counts for a rookie when it was for Geno now you want to say that tuck hasn't done anything in years to crap on fisher again double standard much?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyManHali View Post
    I am in my first year of law school and I read outside of class about 6-8 hours every day so time is short. I might not even be able to watch the game on Sunday.

    I just gave Alex props in a previous post. The deal was if Alex Smith throws more than 25 touchdowns I am gone. If he doesn't TexasChief leaves, we will see what happens.
    Oh, I see. Well, right now he is on pace for 28. This will be interesting. You still haven't told me why you disappeared while the Chiefs were winning ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyManHali View Post
    Tuck hasn't done anything in a while. Fisher hasn't had one positive game according to an in depth analysis from PFF. He has been severely disappointing.
    PFF is totally worthless in their O-Line ratings & anyone who puts any stock into their O-Line ratings has got the brain of a p!ssant. It's the overhead camera that really counts.

    Fisher has only been severely disappointing to you because you wanted Geno buttfumble 2.0 drafted with that pick. Jon Baldwin can rightfully described as severely disappointing. Fisher has not allowed multiple sacks & tons of pressures in any of the games -- unlike Albert in 2009 & late 2010 in his 2nd and 3rd years. Fisher is looking better at this stage than Albert did back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyManHali View Post
    We must single him out because he was the top player taken in the entire draft. Despite myself not being too happy about Fisher, I will say I have been definitely wrong about Alex Smith. He has played well so far.

    And about the console, thanks man I appreciate that.

    We have Vets not playing well on the O line and you single out the Rookie? "Our top 5 lt" hasn't been much better then Fisher and he's not going through a position change like the rookie is. If Fisher was the only one struggling you might have a point. But he hasn't been the Vets are having a hard time to.
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    Wow, that was weird. you edited the post and the edited version showed up in my quote but the original version is still on my screen!

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