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    I have the ticket. I usually record the game of the Chiefs' next week's opponent. This week's game was obviously the Titans/Jets game. I couldn't wait to watch this game tonight (for obvious reasons).

    Let me start off by saying that I acknowledge that I was wrong about Geno Smith. Geno is not a younger version of Alex Smith as I had argued earlier this spring based off career numbers... Geno is much worse than that. The Titans do NOT have much of a pass rush but Geno just could not make any good decisions and their O-line made the Titans look MUCH better than they actually are. 4 turnovers (almost 4 more) and sacked 5x (one sack SHOULD'VE been a safety after retreating 15 yards and another was turned into a strip 6). Again, the Titans are NOT a good pass rushing team.

    No, Geno is not a younger version of Alex... he's some kind of hybrid of Vince Young, Matt Cassel, and Mark Sanchez. Geno finished the day with a 7.8 QBR and owns a 65 QBR (before today) on the season. The only 2 QBs worse than him this year no longer have a job (Freeman/Weeden). He holds the 2nd worst comp % (before today), wedged right between Freeman and Weeden. BUT his yards per attempt rank 9th in the league at 7.85 which, I guess means he's better than Tom Brady who sits worst in the league at 5.5... well, never mind because he also leads the league in INTs (8)... and that's also not including multiple fumbles.

    It really is too bad that Tim Tebow isn't still around... at least Geno would have some competetion for worst player in the league.

    "... and that's all I have to say about that" - Forrest Gump


    Now, about the Titans. There is NOTHING about the Tennessee Titans that strikes fear in their opponent's heart. Locker wasn't all that great to begin with, but now they've lost their starting QB. Shut down Chris Johnson and force Ryan Fitzpatrick to beat you. The Titans, much like the Chiefs have feasted on their turnover ratio. They have yet to turn the ball over this season. Pretty impressive 4 games in. Stats aren't updated yet, but I think the Chiefs are sitting at +10 in TO dif. while the Titans are at +9. They've beaten 0-4 Pittsburgh (-11), lost in overtime to Houston (-4), Beat SD (-3), and beat the Jets (-10). The Chiefs have beaten Jax (-4), Dallas (+3), Philly (-2), and NYG (-9). Both teams are practically winning the same way.

    However, there are a few differences to these two teams. Tennessee has the 29th ranked offense that will have to square off against a Chiefs defense that is a top 5 unit that is only giving up 10pts/gm and leading the league in sacks... and they'll have to do it with their backup QB.

    That's not to say the Titans' defense is horrible. But it's not like they were playing elite offenses like those in the NFC East, either. Todd Haley in Pittsburgh... we know exactly what kind of offense THAT is (28th in yards, 30th in pts). They lost to the only "good" offense they played (Houston 10th yards/16th pts). San Diego is mid pack and NYJ is bottom 3rd. Counter that with Chiefs opponents like Philly who is 2nd in yards and 5th in points or Dallas who is top 10 in both categories as well, and you see a Chiefs defense that has been tested. The Giants are bottom quarter and the Jags are dead last, so take that as you will.

    The Chiefs offense is right at league average after the Giants game. They're not going to blow out the the Titan's defense. You can expect a similar performance to what we saw against Dallas. The key to this game is going to be turnovers. I know that's a pretty big key to every game, but for the Chiefs and Titans, it's even more important because that is how both teams have been winning. Can the Titans' offense with back QB Fitzpatrick score enough on a top ranked Chiefs defense if the Chiefs aren't turning the ball over? We've seen the Chiefs score against a good Dallas defense a couple times. The Giants don't have a horrible defensive unit either. The Jets have a really good defense but Geno Smith kept putting them in bad situations and made the game look much worse than it actually was for the Jets defense. Reminded me a lot of what we saw from the Chiefs last season. QB just couldn't stop turning the ball over and just killed the defense. Houston has a great defense as well and the Titans took them to overtime. The Titans have the 29th ranked offense, but they can move and score when they get an opportunity. A big question for them is who's going to be their QB?

    Next Sunday, you're going to see a league average Chiefs offense against a top 10 Tennessee defense. You're also going to see a league bottom third Tennessee offense with a new QB against a top 3 Chiefs defense. Again, nothing on that Titans team strikes fear in your heart. Stop Chris Johnson on offense and know where the best safety in the league is on their defense and you can pretty much dictate what you want to do. Going into next Sunday, I EXPECT the Chiefs to win. I was more worried about the last 3 games than I am about the Titans. I don't see Alex Smith and this offense giving the Titans turnovers to prey on. But I also don't see the Titans giving the Chiefs any gifts either. So when you match up offenses v. defenses, I think the Chiefs have a very large advantage.

    Take a look at that schedule, Chiefs fans. Things don't get any easier the rest of the season. Oakland is playing well, Houston is always good. Cleveland is suddenly worth noticing. Playing in Buffalo always sucks for the Chiefs. Then Denver, SD, Denver isn't something to look forward to. As good as things may look right now, don't expect the Chiefs to just roll through their schedule and not have any issues. The offense is looking better each week and if the defense can stay healthy, things could get very exciting, but the Chiefs play good teams the rest of the season. Make no mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matthewschiefs View Post
    I don't put much stalk in PFF or any other media outlet with this team. They're all about Denver. Just this week I hear talk on how Denver has the best D in the division when the Chiefs have allowed less then half the points they have and less points against both common oppents I highly doubt they really put much time in there evulation on him and you just told me tonight how weak oppents still counts for a rookie when it was for Geno now you want to say that tuck hasn't done anything in years to crap on fisher again double standard much?

    Fisher was beat by Tuck and then the following play Kiwanuka ran right around him for a big sack on Alex Smith. A few plays later there was a 10 yard holding penalty on Fisher. Stephenson has looked a lot better than Fisher has this year. He is the one who should be starting at RT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyManHali View Post
    Fisher was beat by Tuck and then the following play Kiwanuka ran right around him for a big sack on Alex Smith. A few plays later there was a 10 yard holding penalty on Fisher. Stephenson has looked a lot better than Fisher has this year. He is the one who should be starting at RT.
    And the same can be said for Albert pretty much. He got beat badly on a play and he had a bad penalty against the Giants. He's a vet who again isn't changing positions you hold Fisher to a higher standard then Albert? Why don't you call him out to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyManHali View Post
    Fisher was beat by Tuck and then the following play Kiwanuka ran right around him for a big sack on Alex Smith. A few plays later there was a 10 yard holding penalty on Fisher. Stephenson has looked a lot better than Fisher has this year. He is the one who should be starting at RT.
    This is incorrect. Fisher did not give up a sack or get called for a holding penalty. There was no sack on the play, as Alex threw the ball away & it was a false start penalty and those were the only two negative plays regarding Fisher. Stephenson got called for clipping ( and it was a correct call ) and I watched him closely in the 2nd half of the game and I can't truthfully say he looked better than Fisher. Stephenson looked OK, but not better.

    Why do you feel the need to fabricate lies to support your arguments ??

    Quote Originally Posted by matthewschiefs View Post
    And the same can be said for Albert pretty much. He got beat badly on a play and he had a bad penalty against the Giants. He's a vet who again isn't changing positions you hold Fisher to a higher standard then Albert? Why don't you call him out to?

    Because Albert was his crutch for not drafting Fisher and drafting Geno instead. Albert got called for two holding penalties in the Giants and Philly games, and yet he isn't about to make mention of that because it doesn't support his argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brdempsey69 View Post
    This is incorrect. Fisher did not give up a sack or get called for a holding penalty. There was no sack on the play, as Alex threw the ball away & it was a false start penalty and those were the only two negative plays regarding Fisher. Stephenson got called for clipping ( and it was a correct call ) and I watched him closely in the 2nd half of the game and I can't truthfully say he looked better than Fisher. Stephenson looked OK, but not better.

    Why do you feel the need to fabricate lies to support your arguments ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by matthewschiefs View Post
    Roy is our Official game day starter
    brdempsey has to be the O line expert LOL
    The truth is ALL the members of the O-Line have had their struggles thus far, not just Fisher. They are all playing in Andy Reid's Offense for the 1st time and it's alien territory. This is a pass-first Offense and the O-Line is spending most of the games on their heels, but when they've needed to turn it on in the 4th QTR of ball games, they have. Yes, even Fisher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyManHali View Post
    Hmmm. Perhaps if you do have some we can work out a deal. I will even admit that Alex Smith is the greatest quarterback of all time.
    Now there we have it. MMO/MMH will trade away everything he claims to believe in for a stupid video game. TROLL. Plain and simple. He is back on ignore.

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    All right....I AM DONE WITH THIS SHI*!!!!!!!!!!!!! I come here to have fun, not to be aggravated by a damned troll. I tried to give the guy a chance after his "apology thread" but I AM SO FUC*ING DONE WITH THIS TROLL!!!!!!!!!!! If admin bans this hideous troll then someone please send me an email at krislittledale@comcast.net and I'll be back. But as long as MMO/MMH is allowed on this board then I am all done.

    Love y'all, but I can't take this asshat's shi* any more.

    ctchiefsfan signing off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyManHali View Post
    So let me get this straight:

    Geno Smith isn't as good as Alex Smith in his rookie year who threw for 1 td and 11 int, 2-6 in games that he played in and in 3 of his 7 starts he didn't even throw for 100 yards.
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    Geno Smith has been a turnover machine 11 turnovers in 4 games 8 picks 3 lost fumbles.
    I'll take 11TO's in 6 games over 11TO's in 4 games every day of the week. Geno needs to go his next two games WITHOUT a single T.O. just to MATCH Alex's first 6 games.

    Quote Originally Posted by MyManHali View Post
    Fisher has shown absolutely no promise. He hasn't had one good game. If Geno Smith sucked in all four games this year I would agree that he shouldn't even be out there.
    I've heard about this, but I've never witnessed it. Apparently, it mostly affects chicks with anorexia, but I guess it could happen to guys too. So, there are some people who actually psychologically BELIEVE they are seeing something that is NOT the actual reality. Like, girls who are anorexic look in the mirror and ACTUALLY SEE a fat girl. (It happens to some weight lifters too, but I like the anorexic girl metophor better.)

    Is that what's happening here? Because everything you say about Geno and Fisher is the EXACT OPPOSITE of reality. I find it mind-boggling that you see so much fault in Fisher's play, but think Geno is doing ok. It truly is laughable at this point.


    Quote Originally Posted by MyManHali View Post
    I am in my first year of law school and I read outside of class about 6-8 hours every day so time is short. I might not even be able to watch the game on Sunday.

    I just gave Alex props in a previous post. The deal was if Alex Smith throws more than 25 touchdowns I am gone. If he doesn't TexasChief leaves, we will see what happens.
    I anticipate the offense to get better as the season wears on. I'm feeling pretty good about this bet right now. We should go double or nothing on this bet... if Geno gets yanked from his starting position or ends the season with more than 20 turnovers, you and all your different monikers leave for good. You know you're probably going to lose the Alex Smith TD bet. He just needs 1.25 TDs per game the rest of the season. Andy Reid and his pass-happy offense isn't going to suddenly start running a whole lot near the goal line. This could give you a chance to stick around instead of leaving for a year.

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    All right....I AM DONE WITH THIS SHI*!!!!!!!!!!!!! I come here to have fun, not to be aggravated by a damned troll. I tried to give the guy a chance after his "apology thread" but I AM SO FUC*ING DONE WITH THIS TROLL!!!!!!!!!!! If admin bans this hideous troll then someone please send me an email at krislittledale@comcast.net and I'll be back. But as long as MMO/MMH is allowed on this board then I am all done.

    Love y'all, but I can't take this asshat's shi* any more.

    ctchiefsfan signing off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctchiefsfan View Post
    All right....I AM DONE WITH THIS SHI*!!!!!!!!!!!!! I come here to have fun, not to be aggravated by a damned troll. I tried to give the guy a chance after his "apology thread" but I AM SO FUC*ING DONE WITH THIS TROLL!!!!!!!!!!! If admin bans this hideous troll then someone please send me an email at krislittledale@comcast.net and I'll be back. But as long as MMO/MMH is allowed on this board then I am all done.

    Love y'all, but I can't take this asshat's shi* any more.

    ctchiefsfan signing off.
    You would think with the great turnaround that the Chiefs have had thus far in 2013, that MMH would have long since let his hatred for Alex Smith and Eric Fisher fall by the wayside by now & gotten over Geno Smith not being drafted. But even after a 4-0 start, he still wants to continue pumping up the neighbors dog on this issue.

    I didn't like the Eric Berry selection back in 2010 & especially hated the over-hype and the hero worship that went on with that selection, but at least I waited to watch Berry for a full season before countering all the over-hype and hero worship. Berry is having a banner year thus far in 2013 and I'll be the first to say it here on these boards. And Dex made me & others eat some major crow last weekend against the Giants.

    But MMH will not come to grips with the fact that Geno was not the right guy to be the QB of the Chiefs in 2013 & you would think with Tyler Bray on board and the promise he showed in the preseason final, that he wouldn't care about Geno at this stage. And yet, he's still pimping Geno and bashing Eric Fisher. Because, like you said, he is a TROLL.

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    wtf MMH,how can you be so dense and still be hugging Genos sac?
    Fisher is a big *** dude who is coachable and getting nothing but better.
    The Chiefs are winning with the selection of Fisher and going after Alex.
    Your idea and one that was never considered or even a possibility of drafting Geno at one would yield what,right about now?1-3,2-2,0-4?
    Just ridiculous to bring it up and it just baffles me.

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