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    Hello everyone!
    I have decided to join this forum in hostile territory to discuss this game. This is probably the biggest game of either of our team's season.

    First, you should know that the majority of Broncos fans are very worried about this game. We do not believe this will be a blowout. Reason being: we lost to Indy. They provided the blueprint on turning out the Broncos. I admit we got ****y, blowing out teams left and right and now teams know how to take Manning out of the game.

    Really: provide a great 4-man rush, putting pressure on Manning and man-coverage against our WRs. Who is able to do this better than the Chiefs? I think the Chiefs could really put pressure on Manning and cause him to cough up some turnovers.

    Something I think the Chiefs should be worried about is Denver's defense is much better than they look on paper. Think of it like this...when a team is behind and couldn't put points up on the opposing team all game, then suddenly at the end they run no-huddle and seem to easily move down the field to stay in the game. It's called garbage-time. The Broncos have blown out a lot of teams early, causing teams to give up on their running game and throw the ball. And without Miller and Bailey for most of the season, teams could easily throw on us.

    Now we have Philips (who is having a great season) and Miller back, we have a formidable pass-rush that's only getting better. Denver also has a great run defense, stopping every RB so far this season and even the high-powered RG3/Alfred Morris and Vick/McCoy combos.

    In this game, I think the Chiefs will slow the Broncos offense down. I just read an article on Yahoo about how Reid went out and found large CBs to cover the larger, physical Broncos WRs. So you're going to disrupt our offensive juggernaut. But in biased fashion, I think Manning will find a way to score points, especially by leaning on screens and running the ball to slow down the blitzes. I just don't see the Chiefs scoring more points than the Broncos UNLESS the defense causes Manning to give up several turnovers.

    It will be a great game and I give you guys mad respect for the turnaround you've made. Finally the West is competitive again and it's really good!

    What are your thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncosFan View Post
    Well, math can be done both ways. Let's look at the last three weeks and our opponents. I think we can see Denver might actually have the better defense:

    KANSAS CITY - played against Keenum, Tuel, and Campbell
    1104 yards (368/game)
    52 first downs (17.33/game)
    6 sacks (2/game)
    5 turnovers (1.67/game)

    DENVER - played against Luck, Griffin III, and Rivers
    929 yards (309/game)
    50 first downs (16.67/game)
    9 sacks (3/game)
    6 turnovers (2/game)

    If the Chiefs defense allows on average 368 points to those guys, wait until they see Peyton.
    Don't you worry one bit we most certainly will NOT allow 368 points to anyone. Proof reading your posts is your friend. A skill perhaps not taught in donkeyland. Or perhaps your brain just doesn't get enough oxygen up there.

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    Myself, I fully expect Peyton to try to establish the running game before he gets too loose with the passing game.

    I have seen him do this several times against the tougher pass defenses over the years. And my Chiefs are allowing a very high average per rushing attempt. (Tied for dead last, with The Saints)

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    Jeff tuel is probaly the only QB chiefs fans should not be proud about beating, dude just plain sucks.

    Keenum and Campbell have looked way better than the starters the teams had (schaub and weeden sucked).

    The chiefs offense will needs to get TD's to win this game and should not be hoping for a Defense TD to help them out.

    Bronco fans over hyping their team and not giving enough credit to the chiefs, Chief fans over hyping the chiefs and not giving enough credit to the broncos

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncosFan View Post
    Well, math can be done both ways. Let's look at the last three weeks and our opponents. I think we can see Denver might actually have the better defense:

    KANSAS CITY - played against Keenum, Tuel, and Campbell
    1104 yards (368/game)
    52 first downs (17.33/game)
    6 sacks (2/game)
    5 turnovers (1.67/game)

    DENVER - played against Luck, Griffin III, and Rivers
    929 yards (309/game)
    50 first downs (16.67/game)
    9 sacks (3/game)
    6 turnovers (2/game)

    If the Chiefs defense allows on average 368 points (um ... yards) to those guys, wait until they see Peyton.
    Like most Donkey fans, you are focused on the wrong stats. These stats are far more important.

    Last 3 games:
    KANSAS CITY
    Points allowed: 46 (15.33 ppg)
    Record: 3-0

    DENVER
    Points allowed: 80 (26.67 ppg)
    Record: 2-1

    Oh and this is pretty important, too ...

    CHIEFS:
    Takeaways: 23 (best in the NFL)
    Giveaways: 8 (best in the NFL)
    Takeaway/Giveaway Margin: +15 (best in the NFL)

    Denver: Giveaways 18 (tied for 4th worst in NFL)

    Fans at OrangeMane.com keep making ridiculous predictions and saying "if we don't turn the ball over."

    Good luck with that.
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    I didnt realize they had so many giveaways, Topeka. That makes things a little more interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncosFan View Post
    Hello everyone!
    I have decided to join this forum in hostile territory to discuss this game. This is probably the biggest game of either of our team's season.

    Welcome to the forum. Yes it's going to be a great game.

    First, you should know that the majority of Broncos fans are very worried about this game. We do not believe this will be a blowout. Reason being: we lost to Indy. They provided the blueprint on turning out the Broncos. I admit we got ****y, blowing out teams left and right and now teams know how to take Manning out of the game.

    Actually Dallas provided the blueprint; Indy provided the results. I'm sure Reid's staff studied both games (among many others) the extra week off.


    Really: provide a great 4-man rush, putting pressure on Manning and man-coverage against our WRs. Who is able to do this better than the Chiefs? I think the Chiefs could really put pressure on Manning and cause him to cough up some turnovers.

    My guess is that 3-4 man rushes will be the MINIMUM number. Sometimes Sutton empties the cupboards and sometimes the guys just stay put.


    Something I think the Chiefs should be worried about is Denver's defense is much better than they look on paper. Think of it like this...when a team is behind and couldn't put points up on the opposing team all game, then suddenly at the end they run no-huddle and seem to easily move down the field to stay in the game. It's called garbage-time. The Broncos have blown out a lot of teams early, causing teams to give up on their running game and throw the ball. And without Miller and Bailey for most of the season, teams could easily throw on us.

    I'd argue that the Chiefs offense is underrated. Despite whatever issues our offense have had, they've toughed their way through some highly ranked D's (Bills, Browns, Texans) people shrug that off because on all of those teams their offenses have issues. If it weren't for two dropped passes our offense would have REALLY extended the lead away from the Bills (AT Buffalo). They've also come through at critical times with long drives when they were needed the most. It'll take time for the Chiefs to build a dominant offense, but given Reid's past history...I'd say it's coming.


    Now we have Philips (who is having a great season) and Miller back, we have a formidable pass-rush that's only getting better. Denver also has a great run defense, stopping every RB so far this season and even the high-powered RG3/Alfred Morris and Vick/McCoy combos.

    Von Miller is a great player, no doubt there. However, your D won't be facing an average running back. It'll be JC, who is still finding ways to get yards out of broken plays, and is blocking better than he ever has. Also, with Fasano back, we've ended the merry-go-round of TE shuffling that would hamper any offense.


    In this game, I think the Chiefs will slow the Broncos offense down. I just read an article on Yahoo about how Reid went out and found large CBs to cover the larger, physical Broncos WRs. So you're going to disrupt our offensive juggernaut. But in biased fashion, I think Manning will find a way to score points, especially by leaning on screens and running the ball to slow down the blitzes. I just don't see the Chiefs scoring more points than the Broncos UNLESS the defense causes Manning to give up several turnovers.

    It will be a great game and I give you guys mad respect for the turnaround you've made. Finally the West is competitive again and it's really good!

    What are your thoughts?

    My thoughts are this...Come what may, if the Chiefs lose a player, or even this game, we're still a team that can find a way to win. The Bronco's fortunes are hinged on one thing - Manning. As long as Manning stays upright, the Donks will be a competitive team that burns asleep-on-the-job DB's. If Manning goes down the Broncos will not recover.

    If the Broncos were serious about the postseason, they'd bench Manning for a game until his ankles got better, let Osweiler get some reps and focus on winning in the playoffs (there is very good reason to assume they'll make it there) KC had to do this in '93 a couple of times, and we managed to still win, and had a fragile Joe Montana all the way through to the AFC championship game that year. But then again Montana didn't have to worry about primetime coverage to support Papa John's and Buick ads, or a 95 million dollar contract to live up to.
    Looking forward to Sunday night.
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    We may very well bench Manning, but not against the Chiefs. And I think Denver has a great team that won games with Tim Tebow as our QB lol. We're not suddenly a bad team without Manning. We're just exceptional with him. Even at 75% he's better than most. You're not just dealing with talent, but a very smart man who adjusts frequently and can pick apart defenses. Jack Del Rio is also a very smart defensive-minded coach. I don't think the Chiefs are an enigma. And I also know ya'll are eager to prove yourselves.

    I look forward to a hard-fought, divisional rivalry that will go down in the books. I just don't see the Chiefs scoring more points than the Broncos, especially at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncosFan View Post
    We may very well bench Manning, but not against the Chiefs. And I think Denver has a great team that won games with Tim Tebow as our QB lol. We're not suddenly a bad team without Manning. We're just exceptional with him. Even at 75% he's better than most. You're not just dealing with talent, but a very smart man who adjusts frequently and can pick apart defenses. Jack Del Rio is also a very smart defensive-minded coach. I don't think the Chiefs are an enigma. And I also know ya'll are eager to prove yourselves.

    I look forward to a hard-fought, divisional rivalry that will go down in the books. I just don't see the Chiefs scoring more points than the Broncos, especially at home.
    With confidence like that, there's no need to smear vaseline on your jerseys then, right?

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    Hey Broncos fan.. for once. We'll twice counting yoga *raider) fan have I ever welcomed opposing fan. I give you a great deal of respect for your sensible not arrogant post.
    As for the game.. to beat manning we need to keep up our pass rush and jam receivers man coverage. If we play zones we are doomed!
    This will be the first game either team has beaten a team with a winning record! I predict a split on home field advantages. We have outscored 3 out of the 5 mutual teams we've played more then you bad you only scored 3 more points on one of them then us.
    The stupid media and most Broncos fans are blinded by ?? I don't know what..stat s don't lie.
    Good luck Sunday hopefully we win but I suspect it will be closer then people think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroncosFan View Post
    Yeah I asked the question on the Broncos forum...how do we stop the rush/blitz? If we had Clady, I think he would be a major factor in slowing down the rush. But if we can keep Manning upright and give him more time to throw, he'll pick the Chief's D apart. So the pass rush will be the difference maker in this game IMO.
    this forum comment??

    I just stumbled into the Chiefs forum and man are they confident. Damn I can't wait to go back there after PFM and Da Broncos blow them out this Sunday. There is a difference playing against last place teams vs playing first place teams. I stumble into the Bolts and Raiders forums, but haven't seen a bunch of arrogant fans like the chiefs (pun intended). As a matter of fact lets sweep them to shut them up. Alex Smith is not gonna have a shootout with PFM. This game will humble them. Go to the kink below and see for yourselves.
    eh??
    trust but verify
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