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    The good
    The chiefs didn't get blown out like many thought

    Alex Smith played well overall

    The defense made a number of stops held manning to 1 passing td

    The bad

    Our WR core It sucks. You can call me negitive but I'm just calling it like I see it. This is not a one night bad night thing. This has been something that has happened all year long. It was what largely cost the Chiefs the ball game. They couldn't get open. And to me something that I'm starting to see more and more of with them if they don't get open right away they just stop and start watching Alex. That's not going to get the job done. Quiting on the play is just not going to work. If this WR core can't get their together this team isn't going to head anywhere. Again you can call me negitive all you want but that's just how I fell about the WRS on this team right now. They just are NOT getting the job done. People will bash Alex but he CAN NOT catch the ball for these guys. That's not his job. Alex misses some throws yes every QB does just like every team has drops but this team has way to many drops and it's costing the offense like they did tonight. I'm growing tired of this. This team is so close to being able to compete for a title but the WRS are slacking off on the job and they don't seem to care.

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    From what I saw Alex was doing great in the first half. Putting the ball exactly where it needed to go and throwing downfield. We had some horrible drops. In the second halftime either he was hesitating too much or WRs weren't getting separation. Bowe was great in the first half, then he disappeared.

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    I have been unhappy all season with the WR, I set here with my son in law (a Cowboys fan) and say why can't the Chiefs WRs catch like that as I watch some of the other teams out there and their WRs make one handed catches or diving catches? I am so tired of our WR having the ball hit them in the hands and them dropping them. I have thought they were what is holding the Offense back.

    But I am still happy with the game I told my son in law before the game it was either going to be a Chiefs win 20-17 or lose 40-10 so it was closer to the win and was not a blow out and we held them to their lowest output of the year. If we can beat them at home in two weeks we will be back in control again. I sure hoped the team learned something tonight to use in two weeks. I am curious how low we will drop in the rankings, I say to 5 or 6. I say behind Denver, NO, Seattle maybe Indy and 49ers because everyone want them to win.

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    As has happened all season out WR can't seperate, can't catch well placed balls. And their D line got LOTS more penetration on our O line than vice versa. I hope we can find a way to get some pressure on Manning in 2 weeks or it might be more of the same.
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    I think the problem here is that the Chiefs were 2-14 last year. This is year one with this new team. You can't fix the entire team in one year even though they drastically over hauled it. The Chiefs addressed what they could in year one with what was avaiable and are constantly looking are receivers to upgrade. Another part of the problem is the offense scheme is built more around check downs.

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    I think youve really nailed a big part of the issue. I think tonight has identified two things.

    1. the offensive line is FINALLY beginning to show serious signs of improvement. the last two games have been noticeably better than the 4 before them. They still struggle to pick up the blitz but smith generally has been pretty good at escaping bad situations (in game settings where he doesnt feel pressed to make a big play immediately). Smith had several full 5 second + snaps that allowed for some good passing gains (when they werent being dropped). Fisher got beat hard on the one smith sack that i could see that was glaringly bad.

    2. The damn receiving core flat out STOPS. Dwayne Bowe shows up for about half of his routes. if he knows the ball isnt coming his way (and half the time even when he does know) - he just looks flat out slow. every now and then he'll show a burst of speed but IMO if youre not going to give it your all every play you DONT deserve to be #1 receiver.

    And yet he is alex smith's only target!!! actually scratch that, the non-wr-receivers are his best target(s) (fasano and godbeard). Seriously when you start sending jamaal charles down the edge to beat the one on one coverage and then depend on this QB to make that kind of throw... then youve officially ran out of viable options.

    If you cant be useful to a play, you sure as **** better not be a liability like committing holding/bad blocking penalties that are no where near the area of play. I was high on the possibilities of avery stepping up for this team earlier in the season but that has proved to be a complete flop and im beginning to want to see what some of our depth might be able to provide.

    Side note : how the hell can you seriously say that alex smith has regressed tonight? That guy was playing at a much higher level than anyone else on that offense. The passes that counted were all where they needed to be. I dont recall even one real threat of a dangerous interception throw. He took some sacks and held on to the ball way too long and that is extremely frustrating to watch, but what we are watching is just the pocket. we dont get a chance to see whats happening down field which is what the dude is looking at. I think half of that relates directly to having some real options that Smith can feel confident in throwing to.

    This denver game was a matchup as follows offensively

    Peyton Manning, with Eric Decker(who was largely muted for the night), Demarius Thomas (against rookie corner cooper) and Wes Welker.

    and we have Alex Smith with Dwayne the show Bowe (-_-), uhh that other guy that the colts let go, then lets see theres that TE with the big beard, hes kinda good sometimes. Well we got no one so lets line up jamaal charles on the sideline route?!?!

    And we're surprised by our lack of offensive production....

    We've got Andy pass-is-as-good-as-any-run-game-plan Reid helming this offensive scheme and not a single target worth his salt that we can throw to. Doesnt feel like a sound fit right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brdempsey69 View Post
    Sums it up very well, Matt. A better functioning Offense -- especially the WR's -- and it's a totally different ball game tonight.

    Dorsey/Reid will not stand pat on the this WR group come this offseason. They will go after playmakers & get rid of the current slackers. Also need a healthy and blossoming Kelce to help at TE.

    And you make an excellent point that the WR's just quit on a play and do not try to run to open areas to help Alex Smith out and this has been discussed to death by Len Dawson all season long as well as their inability to get separation from defenders.
    I'm personally not worried about the offseason. I'm worried about squandering a 9-1 season now

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    well let's see how they bounce back from the first L

    I think Reids' had a belly full of these WR's.
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    I think Alex Regressed. Out of everything he is considered a very smart player, but he made some mental mistakes this game he normally does not. Such as the sack right before the half pushing them completely out of field Goal range. Not that making a 56 yard field goal is easy, it was at least a shot. Succop does not have the leg for a 64 yarder. He also tried to force plays into busted coverages when you can see a guy wide open 10 more yards down the field. I also think he had chances to run for the first down many times, but stood in there and forced throws that were not open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KCRaised13 View Post
    I'm personally not worried about the offseason. I'm worried about squandering a 9-1 season now
    Aren't those basically the same thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KCRaised13 View Post
    I'm personally not worried about the offseason. I'm worried about squandering a 9-1 season now
    I don't go along with the term "squandering". Everybody knew this was a rebuilding year & the Chiefs were a work in progress. The progress went better than anyone expected, but this new regime couldn't fix everything in one off-season. So however this season winds up, at least we did see improvement over last year -- more so than what was anticipated -- and it may have over-jacked peoples expectations. Everybody needs to come back to reality & face the fact that the Chiefs Offense isn't playoff caliber. I don't buy the cliche "Defense wins championships". You have to have both Offense and Defense.

    Donkeys fans may be in happy celebration & are singing praises about their Defense stopping the Chiefs Offense, but it wasn't defensive brilliance by the Donks that kept the Chiefs from scoring. It was bad play-calling, poor execution, penalties at critical times, and especially dropped passes.

    This is hypothetical but, what do you suppose would have happened to the Donks Defense last night if they had gone against the Chiefs Offense from 2003 on one of its better days? That's right, the Donks Defense would have gotten their guts ripped out.

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