says stepping down as chiefs coach in 1998 was the biggest mistake he ever made in football.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/a-football...tearful-ending
Franchise Player
Marty schottenheimer biggest mistake
says stepping down as chiefs coach in 1998 was the biggest mistake he ever made in football.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/a-football...tearful-ending
The Wizard of Oz
I'm trying so hard not to respond to this comment in a Chiefs forum and IT'S KILLING ME!Originally Posted by Coach
***Official Chiefs Crowd Game Thread Starter***
This space is reserved for something that has nothing whatsoever to do with MatthewsChiefs. (Whoever THAT is!)
Your Drinking Buddy
I'm trying so hard not to respond to this comment in a Chiefs forum and IT'S KILLING ME!
Homer go crazy!!!
The Wizard of Oz
Troublemaker!
...Okay, you talked me into it.
It's not a tough decision at all. McCown has played very well. In fact he has the highest passer rating of any QB in the NFL. However he is only 2-2 as a starter this year and 3 of his 4 starts came against the Vikings, Cowboys and Redskins--perhaps the only teams that have worse defenses than the Bears. He's a very good game manager (like, but not as good as, Alex Smith) but his performance has been "enhanced" by weak competition and by having Brandon Marshall, Alshon Jeffrey, Martellus Bennett and Matt Forte along with a very improved offensive line around him.
Let's not make the mistake of thinking that McCown is a long term starter based on such a small sample size. Look what happened with Matt Flynn and Matt McGloin. Cutler has a better arm, can scramble and extend plays and can fit the ball into tight windows where McCown can't. He is easily the better QB. He takes more risks than Josh does but it usually results in bigger plays. Prior to getting hurt, he was having the best season of his career in spite of having a new head coach and yet another new OC.
Cutler is not injury prone as Coach implies. He got a concussion a few years ago when the Giants sacked him something like 9 times in the first half behind a swiss cheese o-line. He strained his ACL against the Packers in the NFCCG and tried to talk the coaches into letting him continue to play on it, even riding a stationary bike on the sideline to show them he was good to go, but they wouldn't put him back in. He broke his thumb (against our Chiefs, by the way) and this year he pulled his groin muscle. Coming back too soon from that injury probably led to him spraining his ankle in the Lions game. But he doesn't have any recurring injury and none of his injuries have been career threatening.
He's not an elite QB, but he is very good when his o-line gives him time and he has quality targets to throw to. He has that this year and that is why only the Broncos have scored more points per game than the Bears. (The Chiefs are right behind them in 3rd place!). McCown is a quality back-up but there is a reason he played for 6 other NFL and one CFL team before the Bears called him away from coaching a high school team to play with them. I love McCown and the Bears are in a great position to have him as a back-up, but he is not the long term answer for them at QB.
The Bears need to keep them both if at all possible, but Cutler is the undisputed starter. The only tough decision the Bears have is whether or not they want to pay him "top 5" money. I don't think he is that good, but some team desperate for a QB may offer him that. They will probably also have to pay McCown considerably more because he has played very well this year, but i don't think he would be nearly as good on most other teams. If the Bears don't resign him I think he would make the Chiefs an excellent backup to Alex (assuming we can get a really good WR next year) while we groom Tyler Bray or draft a QB to eventually replace Smith several years from now.
...Doobs made me do it!
Last edited by TopekaRoy; 12-19-2013 at 02:52 PM.
***Official Chiefs Crowd Game Thread Starter***
This space is reserved for something that has nothing whatsoever to do with MatthewsChiefs. (Whoever THAT is!)
Hall of Famer
Y'know Roy....you remind me of the best neighbor I ever had. He was my neighbor down in Southern Maryland through most of the '80s. He was a Bears fan, obviously I was a Chiefs fan. But we shared a PASSIONATE HATRED of the scumskins. We watched football all day Sunday together and Monday nights too. He never quite became a Chiefs fan. I never quite became a Bears fan. But we cheered for each others teams when they were on TV and we surely hated some scumskins.
You bring back some happy memories.
Your Drinking Buddy
I don't mind you taking this to a different direction, i love NFL talk, This is a chiefs board but i mean......i think we've said everything we're going to say about this team until the playoffs, why not bring some other teams in and see how fans feel about it.Troublemaker!
...Okay, you talked me into it.
It's not a tough decision at all. McCown has played very well. In fact he has the highest passer rating of any QB in the NFL. However he is only 2-2 as a starter this year and 3 of his 4 starts came against the Vikings, Cowboys and Redskins--perhaps the only teams that have worse defenses than the Bears. He's a very good game manager (like, but not as good as, Alex Smith) but his performance has been "enhanced" by weak competition and by having Brandon Marshall, Alshon Jeffrey, Martellus Bennett and Matt Forte along with a very improved offensive line around him.
Let's not make the mistake of thinking that McCown is a long term starter based on such a small sample size. Look what happened with Matt Flynn and Matt McGloin. Cutler has a better arm, can scramble and extend plays and can fit the ball into tight windows where McCown can't. He is easily the better QB. He takes more risks than Josh does but it usually results in bigger plays. Prior to getting hurt, he was having the best season of his career in spite of having a new head coach and yet another new OC.
Cutler is not injury prone as Coach implies. He got a concussion a few years ago when the Giants sacked him something like 9 times in the first half behind a swiss cheese o-line. He strained his ACL against the Packers in the NFCCG and tried to talk the coaches into letting him continue to play on it, even riding a stationary bike on the sideline to show them he was good to go, but they wouldn't put him back in. He broke his thumb (against our Chiefs, by the way) and this year he pulled his groin muscle. Coming back too soon from that injury probably led to him spraining his ankle in the Lions game. But he doesn't have any recurring injury and none of his injuries have been career threatening.
He's not an elite QB, but he is very good when his o-line gives him time and he has quality targets to throw to. He has that this year and that is why only the Broncos have scored more points per game than the Bears. (The Chiefs are right behind them in 3rd place!). McCown is a quality back-up but there is a reason he played for 6 other NFL and one CFL team before the Bears called him away from coaching a high school team to play with them. I love McCown and the Bears are in a great position to have him as a back-up, but he is not the long term answer for them at QB.
The Bears need to keep them both if at all possible, but Cutler is the undisputed starter. The only tough decision the Bears have is whether or not they want to pay him "top 5" money. I don't think he is that good, but some team desperate for a QB may offer him that. They will probably also have to pay McCown considerably more because he has played very well this year, but i don't think he would be nearly as good on most other teams. If the Bears don't resign him I think he would make the Chiefs an excellent backup to Alex (assuming we can get a really good WR next year) while we groom Tyler Bray or draft a QB to eventually replace Smith several years from now.
...Doobs made me do it!
good post
The Wizard of Oz
Yeah, I guess it takes some kind of schizophrenic mind to be such a big fan of TWO teams,
"No, it doesn't."
Yes it does. Shut up.
"No, YOU shut up!"
***Official Chiefs Crowd Game Thread Starter***
This space is reserved for something that has nothing whatsoever to do with MatthewsChiefs. (Whoever THAT is!)
Your Drinking Buddy
2 teams is odd, but i understand the NFC team and an AFC team, liking 2 teams in the same confrence is weird but liking two teams in the same division...you're just crazy lol
Hall of Famer
Not really. For a long time I was a Fan of the Chiefs (1st) and the Cowboys (2cond). After all.....they were once BOTH from Dallas. I'll never forgive those damned fish for denying me my Chiefs-Cowboys Superbowl. But since the new ownership in Dallas I have no use for them.
Homer go crazy!!!
Hey, I'm schizophrenic
...and so am I.
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote
Bookmarks