Elway's a fool for signing some FA's he has...

[Connie Jo]

Yep, that's right. I think Elway's a fool for signing Ware and Talib in particular. I'm not alone, several pro analyst articles I've read have more or less said the same...the signings were "risky".

I don't know why some Chiefs fans are worried and think the donkey signings were so great. Below is a quote from one pro analyst:

"Ware was just released by the Dallas Cowboys Tuesday afternoon at the official start of the NFL free-agent period: the team didn't want to carry his $16 million salary cap figure for the 2014 season. Ware turns 32 before the start of the season, was hampered by quad injuries and finished with a career low six sacks in a career low 13 games."

I don't know why some think the signing of Talib was all that great, either. The quote below is from another NFL pro analyst giving thoughts on the donkey's latest signings:

"Talib is a risk, too. He's had hip injuries and also incurred some off field issues, which ran him out of Tampa Bay just a few years ago. Plus, last we saw of him he was being taken out in the playoff game by the Bronco' Wes Welker on a play Bill Belichick called one of the dirtiest he had ever seen. Clearly, Talib has forgotten, or was charmed by dollar signs, whatever."

The donkey's signed two injury prone aging players. One of which has had off field issues, too, and another coming off his worst career year ever, and they spent $87 million to sign those two "risky" players. I don't call that making "great" moves on Elway's part, rather, call it foolish.

Elway's ego has more to do with who he's signing than any other factor. He's trying to make a media splash because his ego LOVES the attention, but he's also trying to redeem himself & the franchise after their pathetic humiliating Super Bowl loss. He's really not that smart of a GM.

He's been signing aging injury prone players, including Manning, at the end of their careers chasing one Super Bowl win, that's it. He's trying to build a one year SB winning team. He's not preparing for the future, nor for a team that can compete consistently for consecutive seasons. Hey, maybe it's worth it to some, but I'd rather have a wise GM like Dorsey, who builds more through the draft, homegrown young and healthy players who can compete for years to come, and win consistently and for more than one season. I want a Dorsey & Reid dynasty, like Green Bay & the Pats built...not a one year contender.

[Eydugstr]

Yeah i drug the article up for the cap space, not to prove a dynasty was happening. The reddit community gave positive feedback on it. You can question it (I don't fault you on that) it can be taken as an idea of what is going on, but i also posted other things that showed the cap (overthecap and the SBNation Broncos page, but then again, you'll put that one down to because "broncos blog")

so again, i never said that they were building a dynasty or said they were going to be fine in the future

The article YOU posted is right there explaining why they'll be fine in the future.

It's pretty obvious you're a Broncos fan. Why are you hooked up with a Chiefs fan site?

[brdempsey69]

The article YOU posted is right there explaining why they'll be fine in the future.

It's pretty obvious you're a Broncos fan. Why are you hooked up with a Chiefs fan site?

And right there he tripped over his own tongue and contradicted himself.

It's goes back to what I pointed out about how he defends the Donkeys tooth, fang, and claw if anything is said against the Donkeys on this -- a Chiefs fans site. Is he really dumb enough to think long-time Chiefs fans are going to post anything positive about the Donkeys given what's gone down in the past and the pictorial evidence to back it up?

[matthewschiefs]

When did it become the thing to do just say that someone you might disagree with is a Denver fan.

Doobs has been here for years and hasn't been accused of being a Denver fan. Come on guys you don't have to agree with him but just calling him a Denver fan is just crazy.

Doobs might like the moves that Denver has made this year that doesn't make him a Denver fan. I like the move that the Ravens made in bringing in Steve Smith to help there WR core. That doesn't make me a Ravens fan.

I don't agree with Doobs all the time but come on lets not just start calling someone you disagree with a denver fan or anything else. It's silly.

[doobs_05]

The article YOU posted is right there explaining why they'll be fine in the future.

It's pretty obvious you're a Broncos fan. Why are you hooked up with a Chiefs fan site?

Been here since 2008, yep totally came out right now, my plan has camefull circle, good try tho.

Yeah it says they'll be fine but doesnt say anything about how they'll go and win super bowls afterwards, nice try.

[doobs_05]

When did it become the thing to do just say that someone you might disagree with is a Denver fan.

Doobs has been here for years and hasn't been accused of being a Denver fan. Come on guys you don't have to agree with him but just calling him a Denver fan is just crazy.

Doobs might like the moves that Denver has made this year that doesn't make him a Denver fan. I like the move that the Ravens made in bringing in Steve Smith to help there WR core. That doesn't make me a Ravens fan.

I don't agree with Doobs all the time but come on lets not just start calling someone you disagree with a denver fan or anything else. It's silly.

Thank you!

Are the players old, yes. Have they been injured before, yes. But denver needed secondary help with Bailey gone (even tho he lost his ability 2 years ago) and DRC not re-signing. Talib was the next best thing on the market, and probably in their eyes, they were taking him away from NE, but NE has made 2 GREAT SIGNINGS (now i'm a pats fan) in Browner and Revis. Ware, last season, was the first time he had less than 10 sacks in 7 years, but that whole defense was just god awful (and i think ware went from LB to DE). NE has the edge right now, but we won't see til the season plays out.

[doobs_05]

BTW, here is the best picture of Elway that I've ever seen:

Attachment 727

Does kind of epitomize all that Elway stands for, now doesn't it?

not even close



there we go

[matthewschiefs]

Thank you!

Are the players old, yes. Have they been injured before, yes. But denver needed secondary help with Bailey gone (even tho he lost his ability 2 years ago) and DRC not re-signing. Talib was the next best thing on the market, and probably in their eyes, they were taking him away from NE, but NE has made 2 GREAT SIGNINGS (now i'm a pats fan) in Browner and Revis. Ware, last season, was the first time he had less than 10 sacks in 7 years, but that whole defense was just god awful (and i think ware went from LB to DE). NE has the edge right now, but we won't see til the season plays out.

The loss of Bailey and DRC is why I think Denvers offseason is overrated. It's not like they didn't lose anything. They replaced two good Cbs with 2 good Cbs. Then they added Ware. Ware was part of what was a bad defense last year and didn't help them much why should I think he's a sure thing to help Denver's d? Could the moves work out Sure. But this talk that they have already wrapped up anther SB season is just way to early. These "dream teams" have proven not to work out so good. There is no reason to think they have already wrapped up the AFC like we are hereing now.

[doobs_05]

The loss of Bailey and DRC is why I think Denvers offseason is overrated. It's not like they didn't lose anything. They replaced two good Cbs with 2 good Cbs. Then they added Ware. Ware was part of what was a bad defense last year and didn't help them much why should I think he's a sure thing to help Denver's d? Could the moves work out Sure. But this talk that they have already wrapped up anther SB season is just way to early. These "dream teams" have proven not to work out so good. There is no reason to think they have already wrapped up the AFC like we are hereing now.

They don't have it wrapped up, NE has the better team, IF they can get some more WR help, then it's the smart team to pick to win the afc. Maybe Indy can finally take that next step and be up there. Baltimore needs a better run game next season to finally get up there, IF steve smith can produce like he did in the past with the Panthers, that would take pressure off Ray(that's if he plays after those videos surfaced) and can get back to form. KC has that defense to address and the o-line will be a wait and see what happens. SD is just too...inconsistent. They beat great team but play down to terrible teams. Cincy with Andy Dalton is going no where, but maybe he'll prove his doubters wrong finally.

I think (as of right now, with no draft and not seeing teams on the field, it's either NE or Den who take the AFC, who ever gets homefiled has it, but that can change with the draft and after the 4 preseason games.

But as always, wait and see til the season starts

[brdempsey69]

When did it become the thing to do just say that someone you might disagree with is a Denver fan.

Doobs has been here for years and hasn't been accused of being a Denver fan. Come on guys you don't have to agree with him but just calling him a Denver fan is just crazy.

Doobs might like the moves that Denver has made this year that doesn't make him a Denver fan. I like the move that the Ravens made in bringing in Steve Smith to help there WR core. That doesn't make me a Ravens fan.

I don't agree with Doobs all the time but come on lets not just start calling someone you disagree with a denver fan or anything else. It's silly.

Because when anybody calls Denver out on something, he defends them tooth, fang, and claw in the very same fashion Donkeys fans do, that's why.

Notice all the stupid .gif images that he's posted repeatedly, when some of us have discussed how the Donkeys SB's in '97 and '98 were tainted. Or his retarded comments like "all teams get away with holding", when the pictorial evidence was put right in front of his ugly face showing the type of choke-holding right in front of the official that none of the other 31 teams get away with, except the Donkeys. Only a Donkeys fan would defend that in that manner & if he's not a Donkeys fan, then what's the purpose of him defending that which is really can't be defended with anything other than stupid statements & phony arguments and nothing valid?

[doobs_05]

Because when anybody calls Denver out on something, he defends them tooth, fang, and claw in the very same fashion Donkeys fans do, that's why.

Notice all the stupid .gif images that he's posted repeatedly, when some of us have discussed how the Donkeys SB's in '97 and '98 were tainted. Or his retarded comments like "all teams get away with holding", when the pictorial evidence was put right in front of his ugly face showing the type of choke-holding right in front of the official that none of the other 31 teams get away with, except the Donkeys. Only a Donkeys fan would defend that in that manner & if he's not a Donkeys fan, then what's the purpose of him defending that which is really can't be defended with anything other than stupid statements & phony arguments and nothing valid?

I just think it's dumb to keep being mad about 98, if anything be mad that Tony G's TD was not called. I bet there is so is a ton of cheating in the NFL that doesn't come out. It's a business, whoever brings in the most the most money will get the calls.

Be mad at the NFL, not a team.