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    Yep, that's right. I think Elway's a fool for signing Ware and Talib in particular. I'm not alone, several pro analyst articles I've read have more or less said the same...the signings were "risky".

    I don't know why some Chiefs fans are worried and think the donkey signings were so great. Below is a quote from one pro analyst:

    "Ware was just released by the Dallas Cowboys Tuesday afternoon at the official start of the NFL free-agent period: the team didn't want to carry his $16 million salary cap figure for the 2014 season. Ware turns 32 before the start of the season, was hampered by quad injuries and finished with a career low six sacks in a career low 13 games."

    I don't know why some think the signing of Talib was all that great, either. The quote below is from another NFL pro analyst giving thoughts on the donkey's latest signings:

    "Talib is a risk, too. He's had hip injuries and also incurred some off field issues, which ran him out of Tampa Bay just a few years ago. Plus, last we saw of him he was being taken out in the playoff game by the Bronco' Wes Welker on a play Bill Belichick called one of the dirtiest he had ever seen. Clearly, Talib has forgotten, or was charmed by dollar signs, whatever."

    The donkey's signed two injury prone aging players. One of which has had off field issues, too, and another coming off his worst career year ever, and they spent $87 million to sign those two "risky" players. I don't call that making "great" moves on Elway's part, rather, call it foolish.

    Elway's ego has more to do with who he's signing than any other factor. He's trying to make a media splash because his ego LOVES the attention, but he's also trying to redeem himself & the franchise after their pathetic humiliating Super Bowl loss. He's really not that smart of a GM.

    He's been signing aging injury prone players, including Manning, at the end of their careers chasing one Super Bowl win, that's it. He's trying to build a one year SB winning team. He's not preparing for the future, nor for a team that can compete consistently for consecutive seasons. Hey, maybe it's worth it to some, but I'd rather have a wise GM like Dorsey, who builds more through the draft, homegrown young and healthy players who can compete for years to come, and win consistently and for more than one season. I want a Dorsey & Reid dynasty, like Green Bay & the Pats built...not a one year contender.

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    Additionally...Manning isn't all *that* great of a threat either. His pitiful performance in Super Bowl exposed his weaknesses when playing against a true Super Bowl worthy caliber team...Seattle. The donkey's weren't a Super Bowl caliber team, had they been, they wouldn't have lost as pathetically as they did. They had a 2013 season of which many opponents had mediocre or bad defenses. They also had refs at times appear to protect Manning by allowing his O-Line to choke hold opposing defenses without being flagged for it.

    Whether those refs intentionally helped Manning or not, is questionable or debatable no doubt. He's the NFL's biggest money maker with endorsements, and he's the media's biggest money maker too, in that coverage of him draws high ratings/profits/sponsor dollars. If Manning was seriously hurt, couldn't play...money is lost on many levels of the NFL & it's partners. Most would protect their business investments, including human....IE: a billion dollar investment value NFL QB - Manning.

    The officiating in the Super Bowl was fair, no protection for Manning like he'd had often in the regular season, and Manning was pressured unlike he'd been all season. As is his history, Manning chokes when under pressure, and he stayed true to that history playing in SB 2014. He's struggling with age, arthritic & troubled joints, including his knees & neck, and his throwing arm isn't what it once was. He has publicly admitted such.

    The donkey's better hope Lady Luck and the refs are on their side again in 2014.

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    Always good to see a Connie JO post

    Ware doesn't scare me at all. I don't know if anyone paid attention but that Dallas D with him was HORRIBLE last year. And Ware was part of that. I think that pick up is overrated

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    Great posts Connie Jo!!!! I hate how many players we have lost to free agency, but seeing the crazy money they are getting paid there is no doubt they had to go.

    As to the donks....If I was an oddsmaker I'd have to make them the favorite to win the west. But I wouldn't make the odds TOO BIG....as you say, Elway is cobbling together a team of aging stars that is only an injury or two from becoming very mediocre very quickly! Perhaps more importantly, in the not to distant future donkeyland is going to find itself in very deep salary cap trouble....or maybe losing a few draft choices--AGAIN!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connie Jo View Post
    Elway's ego has more to do with who he's signing than any other factor. He's trying to make a media splash because his ego LOVES the attention, but he's also trying to redeem himself & the franchise after their pathetic humiliating Super Bowl loss. He's really not that smart of a GM.

    He's been signing aging injury prone players, including Manning, at the end of their careers chasing one Super Bowl win, that's it. He's trying to build a one year SB winning team. He's not preparing for the future, nor for a team that can compete consistently for consecutive seasons. Hey, maybe it's worth it to some, but I'd rather have a wise GM like Dorsey, who builds more through the draft, homegrown young and healthy players who can compete for years to come, and win consistently and for more than one season. I want a Dorsey & Reid dynasty, like Green Bay & the Pats built...not a one year contender.
    That's it; Nail on the head, Connie Jo.

    Know that some people have been disappointed with the lack of big name signings by KC in the past few days...But there is an additional thing I'd like to point out. Whether it works out for Denver or not, someone in Denver is going to be shilling out huge dollars over the Manning, Welker, Talib & Ware signings. And guess what...It's not John Elway. It's not even Pat Bowlen. It's the Bronco fanbase. They're going to see it in the prices of tickets, parking, concessions, merchandise, publicity events etc etc. That money comes from somewhere. Better them than us.

    So given the current rules with rookie contracts, and the fact that a lot of the free agents were either a) going to re-sign with their team or b) not really game changing talent...I'm very okay with what Reid & Dorsey are doing.

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    Elway is doing this because they have a team that made the NFL. And by saying the Broncos don't have a super caliber team, you just shot down the whole AFC (yes including the chiefs). They are in a win now mode. I get it, were chiefs fans and we're suppose to circle-jerk about how bad the donkeys are "see that super loss, hahaha so funny". At least they ****ing made the super bowl. I don't look at manning the same way a lot of you guys do, dude has 11 wins in the playoffs, how many do the chiefs have in the same span.......0, "but he sucks and he's the reason their team loses" oh okay but cassel was not the only problem when chiefs were bad



    Like i said, it get it, some of you want this to be a circle-jerk about "this is the chiefs year, doresy and reid will lead us to the promise land, all the teams in the afc west are going to be terrible for years to come".

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    Quote Originally Posted by doobs_05 View Post
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    Elway is doing this because they have a team that made the NFL. And by saying the Broncos don't have a super caliber team, you just shot down the whole AFC (yes including the chiefs). They are in a win now mode. I get it, were chiefs fans and we're suppose to circle-jerk about how bad the donkeys are "see that super loss, hahaha so funny". At least they ****ing made the super bowl. I don't look at manning the same way a lot of you guys do, dude has 11 wins in the playoffs, how many do the chiefs have in the same span.......0, "but he sucks and he's the reason their team loses" oh okay but cassel was not the only problem when chiefs were bad


    Like i said, it get it, some of you want this to be a circle-jerk about "this is the chiefs year, doresy and reid will lead us to the promise land, all the teams in the afc west are going to be terrible for years to come".
    In other words, you fantasize of Elway when you hump your neighbors dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brdempsey69 View Post
    In other words, you fantasize of Elway when you hump your neighbors dog.



    Man you got me. Glad you could counter my points.

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    Man you got me. Glad you could counter my points.
    Nobody has said the Donkeys didn't a have a good team, as you were suggesting or was imply anything else that you were suggesting, STUPID. Your so-called "points" weren't even remotely suggested by anybody. What others are saying is this FA spending by the Donkeys could damage them over the long haul.

    I don't know what you current occupation is, but you should go to the closest hospital and apply for a job as a bedpan, because with your IQ equivelant, you can't miss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brdempsey69 View Post
    Nobody has said the Donkeys didn't a have a good team, as you were suggesting or was imply anything else that you were suggesting, STUPID. Your so-called "points" weren't even remotely suggested by anybody. What others are saying is this FA spending by the Donkeys could damage them over the long haul.

    I don't know what you current occupation is, but you should go to the closest hospital and apply for a job as a bedpan, because with your IQ equivelant, you can't miss.
    The donks don't care about the long haul, they've gotten out of messes before and became a contender pretty fast. When you have a team that got to the super bowl and your QB is aging but showed he can still play, they're going to build around that. What is elway suppose to do, sit on his hands and do nothing "we got to the super bowl, but lost. Might as well build for the future even tho my future HoF QB is still playing." The fans want to see that super bowl win, elway wants the super win, that whole team wants the super bowl win. It's risky, but don't act like its a dumb move. Chiefs are rebuilding, Denver is ready to win.

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