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    2014 NFL Draft

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    Scout.com's top 32 draft prospects:
    Player Pos. School Grade
    1. Jadeveon Clowney* DE S Carolina 98
    2. Greg Robinson OT Auburn 97
    3. Khalil Mack OLB Buffalo 96
    4. Sammy Watkins* WR Clemson 96
    5. Jake Matthews OT Texas A&M 95
    6. Aaron Donald DT Pittsburgh 94
    7. Mike Evans* WR Texas A&M 94
    8. Taylor Lewan OT Michigan 94
    9. Zack Martin OT Notre Dame 93
    10. O. Beckham Jr.* WR LSU 93
    11. Eric Ebron* TE N Carolina 92
    12. Darqueze Dennard CB Michigan St 92
    13. H. Clinton-Dix* S Alabama 92
    14. C.J. Mosley ILB Alabama 92
    15. Kyle Fuller CB Virginia Tech 92
    16. Morgan Moses OT Virginia 92
    17. Ryan Shazier OLB Ohio State 92
    18. Blake Bortles* QB UCF 91
    19. Brandin Cooks* WR Oregon St 91
    20. Justin Gilbert CB Oklahoma St 91
    21. Calvin Pryor* S Louisville 91
    22. Johnny Manziel* QB Texas A&M 90
    23. Jason Verrett CB TCU 90
    24. Marqise Lee* WR USC 90
    25. Anthony Barr OLB UCLA 90
    26. Bradley Roby* CB Ohio State 89
    27. Stephon Tuitt DE Notre Dame 89
    28. T. Bridgewater* QB Louisville 89
    29. Dee Ford DE Auburn 89
    30. J. Attaochu OLB Georgia Tech 89
    31. Joel Bitonio OT Nevada 89
    32. Cyrus Kouandjio OT Alabama 88

    Notes: The NFL has reduced the amount of time to make each pick in the first round from 15 minutes to 10.
    This year, the prospective draftees are permitted to select their own "Walk up" music. That should be interesting!

    The Houston Texans are on the clock.

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    I think Ford was a great pick. He's not as sexy as some other picks could have been, but we need elite pass rushing in this division. Not to mention, Hali isn't sticking around forever. In fact, I wonder if he's not already on the trading block for a pick or two in this draft. The Chiefs are going to have to pay a ton of money to Houston after the 2015 season. He'll basically be taking Hali's money and Ford will be taking Houston's. This was a cap-managing move... and a good one to boot. Even if Ford has to sit behind Hali and Houston for a season or two, he'll just be that much better when the Chiefs have to rely on him.

    I wouldn't mind seeing the Chiefs trade away Hali and/or Flowers tomorrow. We could use help at DB and OL. I'm becoming less and less worried about the WR position. IDK why and I know all the arguments to the contrary, but I just feel like we have some good young talent that have a really good chance at developing into something special. I don't think the Chiefs feel all that desperate to upgrade that position right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaschief View Post
    I wouldn't mind seeing the Chiefs trade away Hali and/or Flowers tomorrow. We could use help at DB and OL. I'm becoming less and less worried about the WR position. IDK why and I know all the arguments to the contrary, but I just feel like we have some good young talent that have a really good chance at developing into something special. I don't think the Chiefs feel all that desperate to upgrade that position right now.
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    ^^TexasChief nailed it. And to hell with those sexy picks. I want BEEF in the O-Line and Defensive Front 7 with the Chiefs top draft choices. And yes, BEEF includes off-the-edge pass-rushers.

    And let us not forget that when Aldon Smith was taken #7 by the Niners in 2011, he wasn't a full time starter his first year in 2011 and was used mostly as a situational pass-rusher & was given time to fully adjust to being a standup OLB in the NFL before becoming a full-time starter in 2012. Reid has already said that Ford will be used in obvious passing situations to help the pass-rush

    Also, look at the veteran mentors Ford is going to have in DJ, Hali, Poe, and DeVito. And Ford is also a great character guy.

    Dorsey said that Ford was the 2nd best pass-rusher in the draft and the highest rated player on his board when it came the Chiefs turn to pick.

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    I'm not in love with the Ford pick, but I get it. I agree with Tex that I don't think WR is that big of a need, and the guys on the board I wasn't impressed with (they reminded me of Baldwin ... Makes the big play, but drops easy catches).

    The biggest knock on Ford I have read is he isn't the best against the run, and hasn't done much in pass coverage. Well, the same criticisms were made of Houston coming out, but everyone said he had the ATHLETICISM to be an OLB that could stand up against the run and drop into coverage when necessary. By all accounts, Ford also has the athleticism, he just needs some training. Who better than Houston, Hali and DJ to teach him how to read and cover backs and TEs?

    It's a little disappointing from a sentimentality standpoint that this basically is the writing on the wall that Hali is going to be gone soon, but such is life.

    The only other guy I would have maybe been happier with would have ben Tuitt, but I think he is going to be a mid 2nd round pick, so it would be a bit of a reach for us. I think we were trying to trade down (screw u Cleveland!) which is why we waited til the last second to send in our pick.

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    Sorry I couldn't join everyone on draft night (work)...Was a little shocked when I heard the name, but do like the pick.

    (some bad language, please turn down the volume if you're at work)



    Check out what he does to Manziel @ 1:05.

    If he can do that to Manziel, heaven help Peyton if he hasn't chucked that ball. Ditto for Schaub and Rivers. And if this guy helps free up Poe...Cancel Christmas.

    Everyone's babbling about Manziel, let's put this into perspective....He went to Cleveland. Which, as of late, has been a burial ground of QB's that thought they had promising careers.

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    Take a look at this vid and guess who NFL.com compares Ford to?

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-pro-co...isons-Dee-Ford

    Same guy he'll be playing with this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brdempsey69 View Post
    Take a look at this vid and guess who NFL.com compares Ford to?

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-pro-co...isons-Dee-Ford

    Same guy he'll be playing with this year.
    At one point on this forum, everyone was talking about how quick Peyton Manning's release is, and how we needed to figure out a way to get to him faster. I'd say that Dee Ford was a step in the right direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eydugstr View Post
    At one point on this forum, everyone was talking about how quick Peyton Manning's release is, and how we needed to figure out a way to get to him faster. I'd say that Dee Ford was a step in the right direction.
    Everybody saw what happened when Hali and Houston went down to injuries -- the Chiefs defense went pffffft. Was Eric Berry or any of the other DB's able to compensate for Hali and Houston's absence? No, not by a longshot & given time to throw, the better QB's picked the Chiefs secondary apart, so I fail to see why people thought DB was the way to go with that pick at #23.

    To me, taking a D7 player makes all the sense in the world, especially one with elite pass-rush skills, which Dee Ford has. You build from front to back and not the other way around.

    The media had been heavily pimping a WR to the Chiefs at #23, but the ones they liked were all off the board. The Dee Ford selection caught everybody off-guard because his name never came up in pre-draft discussions anywhere as far as who the Chiefs might take at #23. However, he was a standout at the Senior Bowl practices and in the game itself. They can use him as a situational pass-rusher & give him time to hone his all-around skills as a 3-4 OLB, just like the Niners did with Aldon Smith.

    WR's and DB's will be available in later rounds & I believe Dorsey will find the Chiefs some good players in those areas.

    I'm very happy with the Dee Ford selection, because it falls in line with simple common sense and logic. And hats off to Dorsey for not letting the media brow-beat him with his decision on who he selected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brdempsey69 View Post
    Andy Reid said that report regarding Hali was false.

    At Ford's Pro day at Auburn, he ran a 4.5, benched pressed 29 times, did a 10 ft broad jump, a 35-inch vertical jump.

    BTW, he sacked opposing QB's nearly a dozen times during the college season and had a couple sacks in the Senior Bowl as well.

    Here is some bio of him on this web page that has a few vids of him.

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profil...ord?id=2543494
    Don't forget too......Ford sacked Winston/QB twice in the BCS championship. Ford also declared "I'm better than Jadeavon Clowney".
    His play backs up his words, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mayanfootball View Post
    Don't forget too......Ford sacked Winston/QB twice in the BCS championship. Ford also declared "I'm better than Jadeavon Clowney".
    His play backs up his words, IMO.
    Good point & I'll add another. If the Chiefs had been picking at #1 this year, who would have been the people's choice with that pick? Clowney, of course. So why are there so many complaining about drafting a player at #23 that plays the same position that Clowney plays, and yet has a better work ethic than Clowney, as well as a better motor than Clowney, and was more productive last season playing in the same conference as Clowney? Go figure.

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