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    The O-line didn't look good. I was most disappointed in Fisher whom I want so passionately to succeed. It could be that his body is still going through readjusting to the LT position after the travesty of having to play RT all season. Hopefully it's only a muscle memory issue that will go away soon. But he was overpowered on almost all plays. I thought he put extra emphasis on getting stronger this off season. Boy, it did not show!

    The rest of the O-line was poor, but we all now O-lines need to gel and this one hasn't had the time to do so. But that gelling needs to come by the time the season starts or we are in deep trouble. Somewhat on the bight side, though, was the play of rookie Zack Fulton whom I did not see make rookie mistakes.

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    Ron Parker, was bad. I don't know why, but I expected better play out of him, hoping he was one of those diamonds in the rough we might have lucked into.

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    I soooo wanted Tyler Bray to do well.... OUCH!... In my perfect world he will develop to be our long term starter. There was one pass though that impressed me. It was a bullet completion that traveled a fair distance with velocity all from a flick of his wrist. My thought is he saw his allotment of 3rd quarter play was in danger when he finally took the field at midpoint. I think he forced it and wanted to impress immediately, given he was short of time. That's when a young QB falls into the trap of immaturity. Looking forward to the next game to see how he does.

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    Ho hum was all I can say about another player whom I want soooo much to succeed. TE Demetrius Harris. I love this formula of making TEs out of ex basketball players. seems to be a natural transition. I'm still holding a lot of homerish hope for Harris. Go get 'em DH.

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    I have nothing against Succop, but I've been hoping Santos would win the job, if nothing else, for the cap savings. Didn't like Santos' kickoffs.

    OK, now that I have played devil's advocate, let's look at some positives and/or pleasant surprises.

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    WR Wilson. My son, having seen him play against Iowa, had told me he'd be good, when we signed him. He certainly did not disappoint.

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    D'Antony Thomas. Some kids are gang busters in college, but get lost in the pros. I think he will be something special.

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    Cyrus Grey has been a favorite of mine ever since we drafted him. Quietly one of our better RBs. I like his determined style when he runs. Hopefully he will make the roster and contribute.

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    I'm gonna keep my eyes on Malcolm Thomas. Something tells me HE could be that diamond in the rough in the secondary that I was hoping Parker was.

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    Last but not least, TRAVIS KELCE baby!!!! Yes it was against the scrubs, but that speed for a TE?! That should be illegal! people who have compared him to Moeaki never stopped to think that Moeaki's injury history was way more extensive. Kelce's was of freak timing. Right at the start of his pro career. That's all.

    I know all of this is from a small sampling of one preseason game. So things can change starting the next game. Hopefully for the better.

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    Yup. Pressure on the enemy QB is the name of the game in this NFL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankenchief View Post
    Welcome to NFL's "Peyton's Lombardi" project. They will do all they can to have Manning get his second SB championship. If our guys breath in his or his receivers' face they'll be flagged. just watch.
    It helps Peyton but it also helps other QBs and you get to see more passing yards, more TDs which = more $$$$$$$$$ for the NFL, they'll make more money having high score game then they will with defensive battles

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    Quote Originally Posted by doobs_05 View Post
    It helps Peyton but it also helps other QBs and you get to see more passing yards, more TDs which = more $$$$$$$$$ for the NFL, they'll make more money having high score game then they will with defensive battles
    Other QBs are peripheral benefitiaries of the "Peyton Rule." You know this was designed after what happened in the last SB because Peyton's window is closing and the NFL LOVES to hand him another Lombardi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankenchief View Post
    Good point. I'm sure he will be a solid LT in time. I just hope he'll get there quickly. His arrival will be the most important factor in the gelling of the O-line.
    So Fisher is being analyzed by former offensive lineman for the local media here and they are all basically saying the same thing. His initial punch is too slow and if he does not fix this he will never make it in the NFL. Tim Grunhardt was on this morning and said, it is a very big concern because he had mentioned this to the radio heads before camp started and he has seen no improvments. However, he did say that one on one drills will help this but really this is something that instinct. If you don't have the punch it is not something you can easily develop.

    He also said that he watched the entire offensive line and he is concerned that they are not finishing their blocks. He said this was something he learned very early with Okoye. If you did not finish your blocks he just ran over you to make the hole. He did say though that the offensive line coach was working on this with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seek View Post
    So Fisher is being analyzed by former offensive lineman for the local media here and they are all basically saying the same thing. His initial punch is too slow and if he does not fix this he will never make it in the NFL. Tim Grunhardt was on this morning and said, it is a very big concern because he had mentioned this to the radio heads before camp started and he has seen no improvments. However, he did say that one on one drills will help this but really this is something that instinct. If you don't have the punch it is not something you can easily develop.

    He also said that he watched the entire offensive line and he is concerned that they are not finishing their blocks. He said this was something he learned very early with Okoye. If you did not finish your blocks he just ran over you to make the hole. He did say though that the offensive line coach was working on this with them.
    This sounds like a good point. But is it not obvious to our O-line coach or Reid who himself was one in the past? Seems like an easy fix. Maybe Grunhardt should email Chung ad Reid on this in case (unlikely) they have missed this little detail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seek View Post
    So Fisher is being analyzed by former offensive lineman for the local media here and they are all basically saying the same thing. His initial punch is too slow and if he does not fix this he will never make it in the NFL. Tim Grunhardt was on this morning and said, it is a very big concern because he had mentioned this to the radio heads before camp started and he has seen no improvments. However, he did say that one on one drills will help this but really this is something that instinct. If you don't have the punch it is not something you can easily develop.

    He also said that he watched the entire offensive line and he is concerned that they are not finishing their blocks. He said this was something he learned very early with Okoye. If you did not finish your blocks he just ran over you to make the hole. He did say though that the offensive line coach was working on this with them.
    I really like our coaching staff and think they are pretty good ... except for the OL coaches. I have never been impressed by them and I think they are the weak links from a coaching perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jap1 View Post
    I really like our coaching staff and think they are pretty good ... except for the OL coaches. I have never been impressed by them and I think they are the weak links from a coaching perspective.
    And like I said, Reid is an old O-line coach himself. That's the irony.

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    Y'know.....Fisher CAN do the job. But he needs to get coached up right. But he surely has the potential. He'll do "OK" this year but not too much more than that. But bust or star will me determined by coaching. And he is not being coached primarily by Andy Reid. Reid is not the O-line coach. He's the Head Coach and his specialty is offensive schemes. That is what he did best in Philthy. He delegates O-Line coaching.....as he should. Time will tell if Fisher was worth the first pick overall, I think probably not. But eventually he will be an important part of the team.

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