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    Default Explaining my frustration with the QB hate.

    This has sort of become my hot button issue when it comes to the Chiefs. And I thought I would attempt to explain why I feel so strongly about it. In a lot of ways it doesn't have much to do with the people on a forum saying it. Hey at the end of the day we are all just people giving an opinion.

    It has more to do with the fact that this is the constant approach this franchise has seemed to have taken for the past nearly 10 years. Like I have said over and over again Since Bowe was drafted the WR core has been Bowe and a lot of below average guys and they have just hoped that it will work. IT HASN'T IT'S NOT GOING TO SUDDENLY START working.

    The ZERO depth at WR could not be made more clear then week 1 this year. There should be ZERO conditions for a NFL team that Frankie Hammond Jr is a starting WR. ZERO. But that's what we saw. It's what we have given QB after QB. This is not a new thing for this team. Its choices of WR haven't been great. You can go WAY back for that. With the likes of Sammie Parker (who was ok at best) This is why I am so frustrated about this issue.

    A couple of years ago when My Man Hali was here he had a saying about the definition of insanity being
    Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
    That's what you can say about the talent on offense this team has built over the past decade. IT HAS TO CHANGE or they will never get any further the one and done IMO.

    The good news is there is some hope currently on the roster DAT has shown he could become a good weapon. The deep past what got me excited was he actually made an adjustment on the ball. That's a good sign. Albert Wilson also showed some hope. He didn't play a lot early I wonder what could have happened if he was actually able to play throughout the season. If he could have made progress going forward.

    My frustration doesn't come from some love for Alex Smith. I took the same heat for Cassel. My frustration comes from being tired of seeing the same thing repeated with QB after QB after QB. I was very open to the QB change and hope it would change for the first handful but after seeing as many as we have seen come through you have to ask yourself has the problem been this franchise is setting a QB up to fail? IMO the answer is a loud YES.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slc chief View Post
    Actually the colts had the most drops in the nfl this year. There are no excuses for the wr's the fact is they have a below average qb throwing them the ball not all of them can stand 5 yards down field. Some of them have to be decoys and run 15 yards down the field knowing damn well they won't get the ball.
    The colts lead in amount of Drops the chiefs led in % of passes dropped.

    But I would have thought the little would show that post wasn't all serious just a little of my smart *** nature coming out lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by slc chief View Post
    Actually the colts had the most drops in the nfl this year. There are no excuses for the wr's the fact is they have a below average qb throwing them the ball not all of them can stand 5 yards down field. Some of them have to be decoys and run 15 yards down the field knowing damn well they won't get the ball.
    A little bit of sarcasm there as well its more like 6 yards down the field

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    Quote Originally Posted by jap1 View Post
    There were many times, even in the two minute drill, when there were no WRs running routes deeper than 15 yards. It is hard for him to have any success with deep passes when they are not possible.
    Sure, many playcalls are designed without a deep route in the progression. That's the case with every playbook.

    Quote Originally Posted by jap1 View Post
    As far as the 9 years, I dont know much about SF, so I am not going to comment on that. It is easy to look at a stat sheet and come to a incorrect conclusiom, so I am not going to do that. I know he was on some horrible San Fran teams, and he wasnt the starter for that whole time. I do know that he performed well the last couple of years in San Fran.
    I, as I'm sure many others, have watched plenty of Alex Smith games over the years, just as I've watched plenty of Brady, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, dos Manning and so on -- plenty enough to formulate an opinion about what they do well and what they don't.

    His last couple of years in San Franscisco, the passing offense ranked 29th and 23rd. Smith had a total QBR of 47.26 and 69.41. That's not something that I would describe as performing well, but that's just me.

    Quote Originally Posted by jap1 View Post
    Also for the past couple of years, there has been no one better than Smith available
    Maybe, maybe not. But that has nothing to do with my opinions of Smith as a QB. But to your point - I've stated before: If you're going to boast a 29th ranked (type) passing offense, then you may as well be playing a young QB who may develop. What's the purpose of having a highly paid, veteran QB to do that?

    Quote Originally Posted by jap1 View Post
    Realistically, there are only like 5-7 QBs in the league who can be relied upon to do that regularly. Not every team can have one of those guys.
    All the more reason NOT to commit to mediocrity. Alex Smith is very replaceable.

    I don't think anyone has argued against the idea of building up the rest of the team, so I'm not sure why that keeps coming up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevie Ray View Post
    Sure, many playcalls are designed without a deep route in the progression. That's the case with every playbook.I, as I'm sure many others, have watched plenty of Alex Smith games over the years, just as I've watched plenty of Brady, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, dos Manning and so on -- plenty enough to formulate an opinion about what they do well and what they don't.His last couple of years in San Franscisco, the passing offense ranked 29th and 23rd. Smith had a total QBR of 47.26 and 69.41. That's not something that I would describe as performing well, but that's just me. Now that is a great postMaybe, maybe not. But that has nothing to do with my opinions of Smith as a QB. But to your point - I've stated before: If you're going to boast a 29th ranked (type) passing offense, then you may as well be playing a young QB who may develop. What's the purpose of having a highly paid, veteran QB to do that?All the more reason NOT to commit to mediocrity. Alex Smith is very replaceable.I don't think anyone has argued against the idea of building up the rest of the team, so I'm not sure why that keeps coming up.
    now that is a great post

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