Alex Smith vs. Russell Wilson. Let's compare.

[ctchiefsfan]

These Alex Smith threads usually annoy me, but I'm always willing to listen to a real Chiefs fan rather than some random Smith-hating troll.

So I had a little time on my hands and decided to see how one of the most successful QBs these last 3 years compares with Alex Smith.

I'm not saying this "proves" anything and I don't expect to change anybody's "opinion" but hey.....Wilson has 3 years in the NFL and he has a pretty impressive record. 5 playoff wins. 2 Super Bowl appearances. 1 Super Bowl win. NOBODY is going to say that is not impressive.....RIGHT??????

So Wilson must be HUGELY BETTER than Alex Smith.....RIGHT??????

LET'S LOOK AND SEE.....

I'm only going to compare 2013 and 2014 because Alex was with the 9ers in 2012 and only played 10 games that year...But for the Smith-haters, please be aware that Alex's per game numbers were pretty similar in the 10 games he played in 2012 to the 2 years he played in KC.

I'm not good at putting charts and graphs on bulletin boards like this but I'll do my best. Wilson is in black. Alex is in (red).

Attempts.....completions....% complete...yards.............avg completion....yds / game...TDs ......INT...sack.....

2013

407-(508).....257-(308)....63.1%-(60.6)..3357-(3313).......8.2-(6.5)........209.8-(220.9)..26-(23)..9-(7).44-(33)


2014

452-(464)...285-(303).....63.1-(65.3)....3475-(3265).......7.7-(7.0).......217.2-(217.7)...20-(17)..7-(6?).42-(45)

FULL DISCLOSURE......All above numbers are from nfl.com. There is a "?" after Alex's # of interceptions in 2014 because my memory is that he had 7 ints last year, not 6.

So what does all this tell us????.....

First off, there is ONLY one stat where Wilson is vastly better than Alex and that is yards per completion. But is anybody REALLY SURPRISED???? We all know our WRs SUCKED in 2014 and were nothing special in 2013. Reid-Dorsey seem to have taken steps to address that problem.

2cond.....Alex Smith's average completion % is ALMOST IDENTICAL to Wilson.

3rd.....Alex Smith averages MORE yards per game passing than Wilson. (remember, Alex only played 15 games per season these 2 years so while he had substantially fewer yards per season, his yards per GAME averaged more yards per game than Wilson....although only by 5.8 yards per game. Essentially, identical numbers.

4th....Alex averages 0.2 fewer touchdowns per game (1.2 FEWER POINTS PER GAME BY PASSING TOUCHDOWN) than Wilson. IS IT JUST POSSIBLE THAT THIS HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH SECOND RATE WIDE RECEIVERS?????

5th.....Alex Smith averages fewer interceptions per season than Wilson. IS THAT A BAD THING????????? I don't think so.

6th....Alex Smith averages fewer sacks per season than Wilson. IS THAT A BAD THING??????? I don't think so.

CONCLUSION......Alex Smith over the last 2 years has been nearly identical to Russell Wilson (the most successful QB in the NFL those same two years in all stats EXCEPT yards per completion.)

The only nagging area where Alex is not almost a TWIN of Wilson (or slightly better) is yards per completion. And unless my memory has completely failed me I think this has been discussed here at some length and that the general consensus has been that this problem has been a combination of sub-standard wide receivers and a weak offensive line.

SUMMATION.... The Chiefs CAN win playoff games with Alex Smith at QB. The Chiefs CAN make the Super Bowl with Alex Smith at QB. The Chiefs CAN win a Super Bowl with Alex Smith at QB. WHY??? Because his VIRTUAL TWIN in stats has won 5 playoff games, made 2 Super Bowls and won one Super Bowl in the last 3 years.

ALEX NEEDS BETTER WIDE RECEIVERS AND A BETTER OFFENSIVE LINE. HAVE WE DONE ENOUGH IN THOSE TWO AREAS? I DON'T KNOW. BUT I DO KNOW THAT ALEX CAN TAKE US WHERE WE WANT TO GO IF WE WILL GIVE HIM THE TOOLS HE NEEDS.

[Almighty chief]

And my day is ruined with the news about rowdy roddy piper

damn he was a great and i too was a fan. r.i.p hot rod.

[Stevie Ray]

These Alex Smith threads usually annoy me, but I'm always willing to listen to a real Chiefs fan rather than some random Smith-hating troll.

There's no difference. Anybody that doesn't think Smith is good enough is just a hater no matter what.

I doubt that anybody actually hates the guy, but when you get into discussions about him .....the apologists has to paint the naysayer as unreasonable. It helps them to dismiss the factual data that's coming from the other side.

Makes 'em feel better about the Chiefs' chances, I guess.

[Stevie Ray]

Stevie ray with a rebuttal that 95% of the board hates

Because those people don't want a real conversation about Alex Smith. They just wanna hear, "The Chiefs are just fine with Alex Smith as their QB."

[ctchiefsfan]

There's no difference. Anybody that doesn't think Smith is good enough is just a hater no matter what.

I doubt that anybody actually hates the guy, but when you get into discussions about him .....the apologists has to paint the naysayer as unreasonable. It helps them to dismiss the factual data that's coming from the other side.

Makes 'em feel better about the Chiefs' chances, I guess.

I worked very late last night so I am just having my coffee now so perhaps I don't understand your post.

Are you saying that Smith and Wilson seem to be pretty much cut from the same cloth and that with Smith at QB the Chiefs could achieve substantial success if he had the right team around him? Did I get that right or should I have had another cup of coffee before reading this?

[ctchiefsfan]

Because those people don't want a real conversation about Alex Smith. They just wanna hear, "The Chiefs are just fine with Alex Smith as their QB."

There is not a man on this board that doesn't wish we had a better QB than Alex. Not a one. But we haven't had the opportunity to get a better QB than Alex in the years he has been here. There hasn't been a better one available in the draft or by trade or FA. That's just a fact.

So we Chiefs fans do the only sensible thing...



And if all we have is a QB whose stats are almost identical to the most successful QB of the last 3 years than that isn't doing all that bad.

[brdempsey69]

^^Everybody is fully aware that there is room for improvement regarding Alex Smith. By the same token, when he's gotten the chance in the post-season, he has elevated his game & surpassed guys like Len Dawson, Joe Montana, and Trent Green. When you have QB that takes his game to another level in the post-season, then you don't worry about the fantasy football stats during the regular season. It's really pointless.

[ctchiefsfan]

SO RIGHT DEMPS! I might quibble with you as to whether Alex ups his game in the playoffs as much as Montana, but there is no doubt that Alex substantially ups his game in the playoffs. Some people fold under that kind of pressure. Others thrive on that pressure. Alex had one of his best statistical games in that hideous game against the Colts and most of those numbers came in the first 35 minutes. Without the injuries and conservative play calling after our lead got to 28 points, Alex would probably have gotten close to 500 yards in the game.

If we get him to the playoffs again with a halfway healthy team he will break the curse.

[brdempsey69]

^^Actually he surpassed Montana statistically as a Chiefs QB, but of course, nobody has ever equaled Joe's clutch touch in the post-season.

[slc chief]

Reports from camp are that smith has hit a few very nice deep throws. That is a good sign. hopefully he can get fine tuned with his receivers and this becomes a small part of our offense.

[ctchiefsfan]

Reports from camp are that smith has hit a few very nice deep throws. That is a good sign. hopefully he can get fine tuned with his receivers and this becomes a small part of our offense.

Alex can be a very good QB. But to do that he needs an outstanding O-line and some hotshot receivers. If we give him those the term "game manager" will be forgotten. He is not Montana, Brady etc but he can be a pretty damned good QB.