Trade berry for O-line???

**Kcman** · 10-06-2015, 03:26 PM

Think we need trade berry get us something more upfront.. What u guys think??

**Bike** · 10-06-2015, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by NickheadKCAU

i do not care for someone else changing my text for their win.

I'm not out to win anything here. Just talking Chiefs. I suppose some guys are just really sensitive. I guess that's OK these days. This isn't dancing with the stars. This is Chiefs Football.

**Bike** · 10-06-2015, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by rodu

how much of his poor play last year was due to his being sick?

Berry has never been a Troy Polamalu. Kam Chancellor, Ed Reed, Ronnie Lott, etc. Type a player worth our 1st pick. Even before he became sick, he just seemed to be out there filling a spot.

**brdempsey69** · 10-06-2015, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by rodu

how much of his poor play last year was due to his being sick?

Not so much Berry playing bad, but this unexplainable phenom of the Defense going to mush when Berry is on the field, plus the fact that Berry has never had any luck at getting a game sealing INT at the end of a game. There's no logical explanation for this phenom, but it does exist and it can't be ignored.

**jason1981** · 10-06-2015, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by rodu

how much of his poor play last year was due to his being sick?

He didnt even play last year. He just came back feom i jury when he was diagnosed. But we our defense was better when he got injured. I dont really use the cancer as an excuse cuz he was coming back from i jury and hadnt played much at all. But when he was healthy he was a liability. Dont get me wrong i had high hopes for berry and i wanted him over earl thomas but i was wrong. Atleast back then he made some plays and good tackles behind the line of scrimmage kn run plqys but hes not even half of what he was. And you cant expect him to be any better then before his injuries and canc3r so there not any upside with him and hes a liability.

**Seek** · 10-07-2015, 09:01 AM

Before his diagnoses, Berry was most certainly on the chopping block due to his Salary cap/vs play. He would have needed to redo his contrac to stay. His diagnoses put the Chiefs in a PR nightmare. If they had cut him, they were gutless. If they intend on keeping him they had every chance to restructure his contract so that it was more cap friendly.

**Kcman** · 10-07-2015, 04:13 PM

Something needs to give berry making to much money... Think parker can do the job just as good if not better then berry....

**Chiefs4life24** · 10-08-2015, 12:10 AM

Hmmmm
Kansas CITY, Mo. -- The Kansas City Chiefs treated Jamaal Charles like a fragile, valuable piece of jewelry in training camp, rarely letting the running back get hit in an attempt to keep him safe.
Through the first four games of the regular season, not much has changed.
Despite averaging more than 5 yards per carry, among the best in the league, Charles has been given the ball only 11 times each of the past two weeks.
And while he's also caught a handful of passes out of the backfield, Chiefs coach Andy Reid's reluctance to put the game on his shoulders comes despite his team losing three straight and falling into the AFC West cellar.
"I'm just here to win, man," Charles said Wednesday, when asked whether he was getting enough carries. "I have to go with it. I can't be mad with every call."
Still, he would have good reason to be upset with the past couple of weeks.
He gained 49 yards on his 11 carries against Green Bay, giving the Chiefs (1-3) a bit of pop from an otherwise blase offense. He had 75 yards on the same number of carries against Cincinnati, even though Charcandrick West subbed in for him during much of the second half.
Charles said Wednesday that he had some minor cramping in the game, but he also said he feels healthier overall than last season, when he dealt with numerous nagging injuries.
"Sometimes you just catch it in the wrong situation to get the ball," said Charles, who played 59 of the team's 75 offensive snaps against the Bengals.

Running backs tend to be multifaceted in Reid's offense, though, so the number of carries that Charles gets is only part of the equation. Much like Brian Westbrook and others when Reid was with the Eagles, Charles is asked to be a big piece of the passing game as well.

He already has 20 catches for 151 yards and a touchdown.
"He had a couple catches for us that were pretty good, and had opportunities for a couple others that would have been pretty good too," Reid said, when asked whether 11 carries are enough for one of the game's biggest threats. "As much as we move him around, I'm OK with that."
It's not as if Charles is infallible, either. He fumbled twice against the Broncos, the second time in the final seconds to essentially gave Denver a come-from-behind victory.
But his ability to break a game open is rare in the NFL, where platoons at running back have become common, and where quarterback play has become the biggest factor in a team's success.
He has already become the Chiefs' career rushing leader, and he has the most touchdowns (38) in the NFL over the past three seasons. He trails only Larry Johnson and Priest Holmes for the most rushing attempts in franchise history, and his three 200-yard rushing performances are the three most dominant performances by a running back in Kansas City.
"I still see a guy that's very explosive," said Bears coach John Fox, whose team will try to slow down Charles on Sunday. "He can hit a home run any time."
The Chiefs could certainly use a couple of home runs. Even a double or triple would be nice.
Most of the points they have scored the past couple of weeks have been while trying to mount comebacks in Green Bay and Cincinnati. The Chiefs have been far less successful at getting on the board early, not to mention getting into the end zone at all.
All of their points last week came on a franchise-record seven field goals by Cairo Santos.
"I feel like last week we did come out with a lot of energy. We just didn't execute," Charles said. "I look back at the three teams we played, two games we should have had, and one game we did not come out with enough energy. We're learning. It's a long season. Just have to grind."

**brdempsey69** · 10-08-2015, 12:22 AM

^^True that Charles isn't getting enough carries, but I'm wondering also what is up with Knile Davis not getting into the Cincy game. Davis does have a knack for being able to put the ball into the end zone when the Chiefs get into the red zone and I don't know why Davis was relegated to 3rd string behind Charles and West.

**Kcman** · 10-08-2015, 12:31 AM

I agree with that 2 but on the other hand we cant always lean on jc for a win.. And knile davis 3rd string is just dumb i don't understand that at all that kid got the power to push D line back a little and not rush happy just feel its a mistake not to play knile at all !!! ...