***Chiefs @ Giants Official Game Day Thread***

[TopekaRoy]

This one is for KCMASS, 'cause he's living in Istanbul (not Constantinople), and we're playing the Giants.


... and I like weird stuff ...

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The Kansas City Chiefs (6-3)



vs.

The New York Giants (1-8)



Sunday, November 19, 12:00pm CT
at
MetLife Stadium
East Rutherford, New Jersey



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Stats & Stuff

Weather forecast: 49 degrees farenheit. Cloudy. 18 mph W winds.

Line: Chiefs -10, Over/Under: 45

Against the Spread:
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Last 6 Games Head-2-Head:
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OddsShark Super Computer Prediction:
Chiefs 28.8
Giants 20.2

Schedules/Results:

Thursday Sep. 7 at New England Patriots 8:30pm ET NBC Won 42-27 Sunday Sep. 17 Philadelphia Eagles 1:00pm ET FOX Won 27-20 Sunday Sep. 24 at Los Angeles Chargers 4:25pm ET CBS Won 24-10 Monday Oct. 2 Washington Redskins 8:30pm ET ESPN Won 29-20 Sunday Oct. 8 at Houston Texans 8:30pm ET NBC Won 42-34 Sunday Oct. 15 Pittsburgh Steelers 4:25pm ET CBS Lost 19-13 Thursday Oct. 19 at Oakland Raiders 8:25pm ET CBS/NFLN Lost 31-30 Monday Oct. 30 Denver Broncos 8:30pm ET ESPN Won 29-19 Sunday Nov. 5 at Dallas Cowboys 4:25pm ET CBS Lost 28-17 Sunday Nov. 12 BYE Sunday Nov. 19 at New York Giants 1:00pm ET CBS Buy Tickets Sunday Nov. 26 Buffalo Bills 1:00pm ET CBS Buy Tickets Sunday Dec. 3 at New York Jets 1:00pm ET CBS Buy Tickets Sunday Dec. 10 Oakland Raiders 1:00pm ET CBS Buy Tickets Saturday Dec. 16 Los Angeles Chargers 8:25pm ET NFLN Buy Tickets Sunday Dec. 24 Miami Dolphins 1:00pm ET CBS Buy Tickets Sunday Dec. 31 at Denver Broncos 4:25pm ET CBS Buy Tickets

Sunday Sep. 10 at Dallas Cowboys 8:30pm ET NBC Lost 19-3 Monday Sep. 18 Detroit Lions 8:30pm ET ESPN Lost 24-10 Sunday Sep. 24 at Philadelphia Eagles 1:00pm ET FOX Lost 27-24 Sunday Oct. 1 at Tampa Bay Buccaneers 4:05pm ET FOX Lost 25-23 Sunday Oct. 8 Los Angeles Chargers 1:00pm ET CBS Lost 27-22 Sunday Oct. 15 at Denver Broncos 8:30pm ET NBC Won 23-10 Sunday Oct. 22 Seattle Seahawks 4:25pm ET CBS Lost 24-7 Sunday Oct. 29 BYE Sunday Nov. 5 Los Angeles Rams 1:00pm ET FOX Lost 51-17 Sunday Nov. 12 at San Francisco 49ers 4:25pm ET FOX Lost 31-21 Sunday Nov. 19 Kansas City Chiefs 1:00pm ET CBS Buy Tickets Thursday Nov. 23 at Washington Redskins 8:30pm ET NBC Buy Tickets Sunday Dec. 3 at Oakland Raiders 4:25pm ET FOX Buy Tickets Sunday Dec. 10 Dallas Cowboys 4:25pm ET FOX Buy Tickets Sunday Dec. 17 Philadelphia Eagles 1:00pm ET FOX Buy Tickets Sunday Dec. 24 at Arizona Cardinals 4:25pm ET FOX Buy Tickets Sunday Dec. 31 Washington Redskins 1:00pm ET FOX Buy Tickets

Notable Quotables:
Chiefs:

“...you have to be able to play great technique up front. That’s attacking, striking the blocker, the ability to shed and get off blocks. Defense, a stalemate isn’t a win for you on defense. You’ve got to get off the block and make a play.”

--Chiefs Defensive Coordinator Phil Nagy

Giants:

“They’re as multiple as multiple gets from an offensive standpoint. And they’ve got really good players doing it and they’ve had the same players doing it, which is an advantage for them. And the guy in the middle that gets the ball in his hands every down is really good. This is a challenge, a great challenge, great opportunity for us to come out. It’d be a great thing for us to do good against this offensive football team. I’ve always respected [Kansas City Head Coach] Andy [Reid] and what he’s done."

--Giants Defensive Coordinator Steve Spagnuolo

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Injury Report:

Allen Bailey	DE	Knee	Did Not Participate In Practice	Out
Donald Ford	LB	Back	Did Not Participate In Practice	Out
Tamba Hali	LB	Knee	Did Not Participate In Practice	Out
Albert Wilson	WR	Hamstring	Did Not Participate In Practice	Out

Kelvin Sheppard	LB	Groin	Limited Participation in Practice	Doubtful
B.J. Goodson	LB	Ankle	Did Not Participate In Practice	Out
Justin Pugh	G	Back	Did Not Participate In Practice	Out
Damon Harrison	DT	Ankle	Limited Participation in Practice	Questionable
Devon Kennard	LB	Quadricep	Limited Participation in Practice	Questionable

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Depth Charts:

Chiefs

OFFENSE
POSITION	STARTER	2nd	3rd	4th
WR	Tyreek Hill	De'Anthony Thomas
TE	Travis Kelce	Demetrius Harris	Ross Travis
LT	Eric Fisher	Mitchell Schwartz
LG	Bryan Witzmann	Zach Fulton
C	Mitch Morse	Zach Fulton
RG	Laurent Duvernay-Tardif	Jordan Devey
RT	Mitchell Schwartz	Cameron Erving
WR	Albert Wilson Out	Demarcus Robinson	Jehu Chesson
QB	Alex Smith	Patrick Mahomes	Tyler Bray
FB	Anthony Sherman
RB	Kareem Hunt	Charcandrick West	Akeem Hunt

BASE 3-4 DEFENSE
POSITION	STARTER	2nd	3rd	4th
LDE	Allen Bailey Out	Jarvis Jenkins
NT	Bennie Logan	Roy Miller
RDE	Chris Jones	Rakeem Nunez-Roches
LOLB	Justin Houston	Tanoh Kpassagnon
LILB	Derrick Johnson	Kevin Pierre-Louis	Ukeme Eligwe
RILB	Reggie Ragland	Terrance Smith	Ramik Wilson
ROLB	Dee Ford Out	Frank Zombo
CB	Terrance Mitchell	Phillip Gaines	Kenneth Acker
SS	Daniel Sorensen	Eric Murray
FS	Ron Parker	Steven Terrell
CB	Marcus Peters	D.J. White

Giants

OFFENSE
POSITION	STARTER	2nd	3rd	4th
WR	Roger Lewis	Travis Rudolph
TE	Rhett Ellison	Evan Engram	Jerell Adams
LT	Ereck Flowers	Chad Wheeler
LG	Justin Pugh Out	Brett Jones
C	Weston Richburg	Brett Jones
RG	John Jerry	D.J. Fluker
RT	Bobby Hart	D.J. Fluker	Adam Bisnowaty
WR	Tavarres King	Ed Eagan
QB	Eli Manning	Geno Smith	Davis Webb
FB	Shane Smith
RB	Paul Perkins	Shane Vereen	Orleans Darkwa	Wayne Gallman

BASE 4-3 DEFENSE
POSITION	STARTER	2nd	3rd	4th
LDE	Jason Pierre-Paul	Romeo Okwara	Kerry Wynn
LDT	Damon Harrison Questionable	Robert Thomas
RDT	Jay Bromley	Dalvin Tomlinson
RDE	Olivier Vernon	Avery Moss
WLB	Jonathan Casillas	Keenan Robinson
MLB	B.J. Goodson Out	Calvin Munson
SLB	Devon Kennard Questionable	J.T. Thomas
CB	Eli Apple
SS	Landon Collins	Nat Berhe
FS	Darian Thompson	Andrew Adams
CB	Janoris Jenkins	Michael Hunter

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More Stats & More Stuff

Team Leaders:
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Matchup:
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Expert's Picks:
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Prisco's Pick:

The Chiefs are coming off the bye, and some will say this is a second one, given the way the Giants are playing. They have been awful. But the Chiefs weren't playing great be- fore their bye either. Even so, they are the better team. They will find a way in this one. But it will be closer than you think.

Chiefs 21 Giants 17

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Chiefs vs. Giants: Game Preview
From Chiefs.com

Posted Nov 18, 2017

Matt McMullen Chiefs Reporter Chiefs.com@KCChiefs_Matt

The Chiefs return to the field this Sunday looking to get back in the win column

The Kansas City Chiefs are back at it this weekend after a couple of weeks away from the field, as the division-leaders had a chance to rest up over the bye week following a 6-3 start to the season.

Kansas City will look to finish strong over the season’s final seven weeks with a second-consecutive division title in sight, and it all starts on Sunday against the New York Giants.

The Chiefs haven’t played the Giants since 2013, just four games into Head Coach Andy Reid’s first season in the red and gold. Kansas City won that game, 31-7, behind three touchdowns from quarterback Alex Smith.

Long ago as that seems, it’s been much longer since the Chiefs last played the Giants in New York – way back in 2005. Just two current Chiefs – linebacker Derrick Johnson and punter Dustin Colquitt – were around for that game.

The Chiefs will be back in New York this weekend in what seems to be a showdown between two teams headed in opposite directions.

The Giants had postseason aspirations heading into this season, but they’ve struggled mightily from the beginning.

New York is 1-8 on the year, winning just one game through 11 weeks for the first time since 1976.

That lowly record is the result of a variety of factors on both sides of the ball, as the Giants rank 28th in both scoring offense (16.7) and defense (26.4) when compared to the rest of the league.

They’ve lost five games by double-digit points, and have allowed 30-plus points in each of their last two games.

It’s simply been a tough year all around, but the Chiefs aren’t paying attention to the numbers.

“Record never matters, you’ve just got to go play,” Reid said. “They’ve got good talent and good coaching on that team. We’re going to prepare ourselves to go play against a good football team in a hostile environment.”

That talent begins with veteran quarterback Eli Manning, who’s completing 64.6 percent of his passes this season – the highest mark of his 14-year career – even if it’s only led to one victory.



Manning is surrounded by a largely young cast of skill position players, such as running back Orleans Darkwa (fourth season) and wide receivers Evan Engram (first season) and Sterling Shepard (second season).

Those players have been thrust into more prominent roles due to a slew of injuries, notably to wide receivers Odell Beckham Jr. and Brandon Marshall, and have impressed in spurts.

Darkwa is averaging 5.1 yards per carry in limited action, rushing for 415 yards on 81 attempts. He’s seen an uptick in carries recently, logging double-digit attempts in each of New York’s last two games, and has held his own with an average pickup of 4.7 yards.

Engram has five touchdowns on the year, and he and Shepard are both averaging over 11 yards per reception while combining for nearly 1,000 yards through the air.

Admirable as those players have been, New York’s offense has struggled.

The Giants haven’t posted more than 24 points in a game all season, and they’re averaging just 322.3 yards per contest.

Kansas City, meanwhile, has hummed on offense this year with the exception of just a few games.

The Chiefs managed only 17 points in their Week 9 loss to the Dallas Cowboys, but still lead the league in yards per play (6.2) while ranking fifth in points (28.1) and yards per game (388.2).

And despite what the rankings say, they’re not taking the Giants lightly.

“You go back and you watch their game film and, of course people see the record, but you get to see some of these games and where it turned within the game,” said Offensive Coordinator Matt Nagy. “This team isn’t what their record says. They’re a good football team. They’re going through some things right now, but that’s adversity and normally adversity brings the best out of everybody.”

Fittingly enough, adversity has seemed to bring out the best in the Chiefs, too, as they’ve been particularly effective on the road with an AFC-leading 31 points per contest.

That’s largely a tribute to Smith, who has been the best signal caller in the league this season while in hostile territory.



Smith leads the league in passer rating (128.2), completion percentage (75.5 percent) and touchdowns (14) on the road this year, posting a triple-digit quarterback rating in all five games.

Those 14 touchdowns already double his output in eight road games last year (7), and he’s just 304 passing yards shy of matching last year’s mark.

Several of those scores have been on big plays, which has seemed to become commonplace for this Chiefs team.

Kansas City leads the league with 21 plays of over 30 yards, and interestingly enough, the Giants have allowed the most such plays this season (23).

The Chiefs could be due for a few big plays on Sunday.

It’s also relevant to note Reid’s effectiveness when gifted additional time to prepare for an opponent.

Reid is 16-2 in his career following a regular season bye, and 3-1 with Kansas City. That’s more wins than any team, let alone coach, has compiled since Reid took over the Philadelphia Eagles in 1999.

In fact, Reid’s only two losses following the bye week were to the Atlanta Falcons in 2012 and the Denver Broncos in 2013, who were a combined 16-1 following those meetings.

Reid will look to build on that record on Sunday, as the Chiefs try to get back into the win column in the Big Apple.

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Game Preview from ESPN.com

Rested Chiefs will try to add to Giants' woes

Kansas City Chiefs coach Andy Reid doesn't want to hear about records.

Reid, whose teams are 16-2 in games following a week off, is dialed in to making sure his team, which prior to the bye lost three out of four games, has cleaned up the little things that were part of that mini skid by the time they take the MetLife Stadium field Sunday for their meeting with the New York Giants (1-8).

"Listen, I tell the guys that every week: You got to focus on getting better as a team," Reid said when asked what his message has been to his players this week.

"We got a lot of room to improve. We're not good enough right now, so we got to keep working, so that's where it always starts. That's the one great thing about football, you always have something you can get better at."

In their last four games, the Chiefs have struggled to convert on third down, going 17 of 49, have seen their net yards on offense dip below 300 in two of those games and have allowed an average of 420.7 yards.

While Reid wouldn't shed too much clarity into how he and his staff were addressing the little things that have marred the Chiefs' won-loss record, he did emphasize that the Giants, who are amid their worst season in decades and who have yet to win at home this year, are not going to be the pushover the oddsmakers might think.

"Record never matters; you just go play," said Reid, who is 16-13 against the Giants dating to his days as Philadelphia Eagles coach. "They have good talent and good coaching on that team."

The Giants have the league's 31st-ranked defense, a unit that has allowed opponents an average of 400.3 yards per game and has also yielded an average of 26.4 points.

"They play hard and I have a lot of respect for their defensive coordinator (Steve Spagnuolo)," Reid said. "I think he does a great job and they've got good players. We're going to prepare ourselves to play a good football team and it's important we get into the flow of things."

The Giants, meanwhile are trying to get into a flow themselves after two embarrassing and deflating games against the Rams at home and the 49ers last week in which they were outscored 82-38.

"I'm disappointed, but I'm determined to find a way to get it fixed," coach Ben McAdoo said this week.

"No one expected our record to be what it is at this point and us to be playing the type of football that we're playing at this point. But we are, and we are what our record says we are, and the film reflects it. We need to find a way to improve."

To initiate that improvement, the second-year coach showed the team a select number of plays from last week's loss to the 49ers that McAdoo and the coaching staff viewed as either poor effort or a lack of finishing.

"We were brutally honest with each other," McAdoo said of that film review. "We'll see how the players respond, but we also talked about the great opportunity in front of us."

Many of the Giants players said the message came through loud and clear.

"We needed to get snapped at a little bit; we do need to get fired up a little bit," offensive lineman D.J. Fluker said. "If you get guys fired up, pissed off about the things they did, it will make them want to play better."

Cornerback Dominque Rodgers-Cromartie said the meeting was long overdue.

"I think it would put guys in a different attention span, put us on alert," Rodgers-Cromartie said. "Ain't nobody want to have a play up there where you got to come back in the locker room and everybody is looking at you like you're that guy."

While McAdoo, who once claimed to have his finger on the pulse of the team, waits to see how well his message was received, he hopes his players realize what's in front of them.

"Seven more weeks -- I think it's a great opportunity," he said. "A lot of doubt out there, so, we have a chance to flip the script these last seven weeks."

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Chiefs-Giants scouting report, key players to watch, and a prediction
From The Kansas City Star

Red Zone The Chiefs and NFL by beat writer Terez Paylor

NOVEMBER 17, 2017 02:48 PM



The scheme

Head coach: Ben McAdoo (12-13) is in his second year on the job. McAdoo, 40, was promoted last year following Tom Coughlin’s resignation. McAdoo, who did not play college football, spent some time at a handful of colleges before he was hired to be the Saints’ quality control coach in 2014. From there, he went on to work with the 49ers (offesnive line coach) and Packers (tight ends and quarterbacks coach) before he was hired to be the Giants’ offensive coordinator in 2014, when the Giants’ offense was one of the most productive in the NFL. But the Giants’ miserable start this season has led many to question his job security. One anonymous player blasted McAdoo to ESPN’s Josina Anderson, saying he has lost the team following a listless 51-17 loss to the Rams on Nov. 5. McAdoo recently held a “brutally honest” team meeting in which the players’ lack of effort was reportedly discussed.

Offense: Mike Sullivan, 50, is in his second year as New York’s offensive coordinator and third year of his second stint on the Giants’ coaching staff. A former defensive back at Army, Sullivan coached at multiple colleges in the 1990s before joining Jacksonville as a quality control coach in 2002. Sullivan left in 2004 to become the Giants’ receivers coach, a position in which he remained until 2010, when he became the quarterbacks coach. He also served as Tampa Bay’s offensive coordinator from 2012 to 2013 before rejoining the Giants. McAdoo relinished playcalling duties to Sullivan last month. New York currently ranks 18th in passing offense (217.8 yards per game) and 25th in rushing offense (89.8). New York is one of the most pass-heavy teams in football, as the Giants are throwing at a 64.3 percent clip. They don’t use play action much (16 percent, 26th in the league) or particularly well (7.2 yards per play, 20th in the league), according to Football Outsiders.

Defense: Steve Spagnuolo, 57, is in the third season of his second tenure as New York’s defensive coordinator. He previously held the position from 2007 to 2008, with the latter being the Giants’ Super Bowl campaign. Spagnuolo played receiver at Springfield College before jumping into the defensive side of coaching in the early 80s. He spent many years as an assistant across many schools until he was hired by Chiefs coach Andy Reid to be a defensive assistant in Philadelphia in 1999. Spagnuolo spent eight years under Reid, serving as a linebackers and secondary coach before he was hired to run the Giants’ defense. Spagnuolo spent 2009 to 2011 as the Rams’ head coach, and 2012 as the Saints’ defensive coordinator before landing with the Giants again. Under Spagnuolo, New York runs a 4-3 defense that relies heavily on size and physicality, in the Giants’ historical tradition. The unit has struggled mightily this year, however, ranking 30th in pass defense (267.8 yards per game) and dead last in sacks (13). The Giants’ run defense also ranks 30th in the league (132.6).

Special teams: Tom Quinn, 49, is in his 12th year with the Giants and 11th as their special teams coach. Quinn, a former linebacker at Arizona, coached in the collegiate ranks for 15 years before joining the Giants in 2006. Kicker Aldrick Rosas has made 10 of 15 field-goal attempts — his 67 percent conversion rate ranks 34th in the league — while punter Brad Wing has dropped only eight of his 48 punts inside the 20, 32nd in the league. He’s also had two punts blocked. The Giants rank 17th in kickoff returns (21.4 yards per return) and 24th in punt returns (6.2). They also rank 25th in kick-return coverage (23.1) and dead last in punt-return coverage (12.9), having surrendered an 88-yard touchdown.

Four keys to a Chiefs victory

1. Target Travis

The Giants are awful at covering tight ends — this banged-up linebacking corps hardly excels in coverage. The Chiefs happen to have one of the league’s best tight ends in Travis Kelce. Reid needs to dial up all sorts of concepts for Kelce, who can’t be covered by this team, which has surrendered touchdowns to a tight ends in a ridiculous 10 straight games. Dead serious. Also keep an eye on throws to running back Kareem Hunt; the inability of the Giants’ linebackers to cover anyone needs to be exploited, and so does their inability to tackle in space; the Giants rank fourth in the league in missed-tackle percentage (12.4 percent), per FO.

2. Go old school

The Giants’ secondary is prone to blown coverages; they surrendered a touchdown on third-and-33 two weeks ago. So the Chiefs need to go old school on these guys. Establish the run early, show them a bunch of different looks, and playaction off all that and make this secondary communicate and execute. They’ve been unable to do so all year, and if the Chiefs hurt them with the running game, it will open up all the deep throws for Tyreek Hill and company. Teams have used playaction against the Giants 24 percent of the time, according to FO, which is second most in the league.

3. Take away Darkwa, Engram and Shepard

When you’re facing a bad team, the first thing you have to due is stifle the running game. Rookie running back Orleans Darkwa has a little juice and could hurt the Chiefs if they let him getting rolling, so they need to devote some resources to beating their plodding O-line to the punch at the point of attack and prevent them from gaining traction with their assortment of power runs. From there, the Giants’ top two receiving targets are tight end Evan Engram and receiver Sterling Shepard. Shepard is smallish (5 foot 10, 201 pounds) but explosive; they Chiefs need to know where Shepard and Engram, a legit matchup nightmare who is too fast for linebackers and too big for defensive backs, are in passing situations. If the Chiefs can make other players beat them, they should be just fine. New York misses star receiver Odell Beckham, Jr.

4. Bring some heat off the edge

With starting right tackle Justin Pugh out due to injury, it’s worth noting that both of the Giants’ projected starting tackles, Ereck Flowers and Bobby Hart, are big, strong guys who can be stressed by speed in pass protection. That means the Chiefs’ starting edge rushers need to eat. Justin Houston is primed for a big game, as well as whoever lines up opposite him. Quarterback Eli Manning might be a two-time Super Bowl champion, but he can be affected by pressure, as his accuracy wanes and likelihood of a turnover increases with every opposing body in his vicinity.

Four Giants to watch

No. 10, QB Eli Manning, 36 years old, 6-4, 218, 14th season

Completed 377 of 598 passes (63 percent) for 4,027 yards, 26 touchdowns and 16 interceptions in 2016. Is on pace to complete 382 of 592 passes (64.6 percent) for 3,721 yards, 25 touchdowns and 11 interceptions in 2017. Team captain and two-time Super Bowl champion who twice beat Tom Brady on football’s biggest stage. Battle-tested. Moves a little better than you might think, despite his age, and shows the ability to make some really nice throws in the short to intermediate, especially on the move. Still, his accuracy on deep and intermediate throws is inconsistent, which — when combined with his willingness to take chances — leads to interceptions. Is prone to turnovers when bodies swarm him and can be strip-sacked: has fumbled at least seven times and lost at least four fumbles every year since 2014.

No. 88, TE Evan Engram, 23 years old, 6-3, 236, first season

On pace to finish with 71 catches for 788 yards and nine touchdowns as a rookie. First-round tight end who is built more like a super-sized receiver. Terrific athlete who was among the top testers at his position in the 40, vertical jump (36 inches), three-cone (6.92 seconds) and 20-yard shuttle (4.23) during the pre-draft process. Lined up as a fullback, slot receiver and “move” tight end in college and is very difficult for linebackers to handle one-on-one due to his overall athleticism. Super-athletic, fluid receiver with terrific burst out of his breaks who shows some tempo and craftiness as a route-runner and can consistently beat linebackers and safeties. Can post up almost any defender and win jump balls; legit red-zone threat with great ball skills who needs to be covered tightly in the money area. Outstanding runner after the catch at his position; runs hard and pick up chunk yards. Energy giver who plays hard and is into it. Has lots of juice. Not much of a blocker as a tight end due to his overall lack of size but he really does play with great effort. Has the occasional focus drop; his five drops are tied for ninth-most in the league, per FO.

No. 20, CB Janoris Jenkins, 29 years old, 5-10, 198, sixth season

Ranked No. 54 on the NFL’s top-100 list for 2017. Pro Bowler who was named All-Pro in 2016, when he finished with 49 tackles, three interceptions and 18 pass deflections. Is on pace to finish with 46 tackles, two interceptions and 11 pass deflections in 2017. When engaged, Jenkins is a very good football player, a playmaker who earned the nickname “Jackrabbit” in college at Florida due to his relentless energy. At his best, he’s a playmaker who not only jumps routes but also forces fumbles. Good athlete who plays bigger than his size. Is aggressive (has been whistled for four pass interference penalties) and has plus ball skills and instincts. Is very comfortable in man coverage and decent in zone. Very competitive and doesn’t back down from challenges from top-notch receivers. Effort has been criticized recently, and he was suspended against the Rams for missing practice. The Giants need this guy to return to form to prevent a miserable season from getting worse. Has also missed 10 tackles this year, according to FO.

No. 21, S Landon Collins, 23 years old, 6-0, 225, third season

Ranked No. 28 on the NFL’s top-100 list for 2017. Pro Bowler who was named All-Pro in 2016, when he recorded 125 tackles, five interceptions, 13 pass deflections and four sacks. On pace to finish with 100 tackles, two interceptions and seven pass deflections in 2017. Natural playmaker who, at his best, shows a knack for being around the ball and making plays. Has some juice with the ball in his hands. Good athlete with size and range who covers a good amount of ground and packs a punch. Looks great on the hoof. Good run defender with the size and mentality to help in the box. Has not played to his typical standard this year and has difficulty covering tight ends. Can be undisciplined and is still refining his coverage ability, both in man and zone. Has also missed 11 tackles this year, tied for eighth-most in the league, according to FO.

Additional scouting notes

▪ Running back Orleans Darkwa has some juice and a little shake; I kinda like him. They need to hit him hard early and match the physicality of the Giants’ man-blocking scheme.

▪ Guard D.J. Fluker has added some physicality to the offensive line.

▪ The Giants’ top three defensive ends — Olivier Vernon, Jason Pierre-Paul and Avery Moss — can get after you a little bit if you let them get on a roll. There’s worse trios across the league than this one, believe that. Vernon, though, hasn’t been finishing tackles much (eight missed tackles, per FO).

▪ Defensive tackle Damon Harrison, Sr. (ankle) is one of the best interior linemen in footall when healthy. Nicknamed “Snacks,” he is a massive human being who is very difficult to move in the running game.

▪ Cornerback Eli Apple is going to be a good player in this league. I like his size, athleticism and competitiveness; he’s been throw at 54 times this year — tied for 10th most in the league — and has only allowed a 46 percent success rate (per FO), which is really good. He’s a little grabby, though — he’s been whistled for two holding and two pass interference penalties this year.

▪ Safety Darian Thompson has missed his fair share of tackles this year (10, per FO).

Prediction: Chiefs 34-13

The Giants surprised the Broncos a month ago due to Denver’s juiceless offense, but make no mistake about it, this one-win team is a mess. The Giants were embarassed a few weeks ago 51-17 — right after their bye week! — by the Los Angeles Rams, who are 7-2 but still one of the youngest teams in football. A week ago, they got beat by the hapless San Francisco 49ers, who thus earned their first win of the season and improved to 1-9. The Giants are in the midst of a season that gets people fired. Andy Reid typically destroys bad teams, and this Chiefs squad has dealt with enough bad juju over the last month or so that they should relish the opportunity to take out their frustration on the Giants. Barring a fluky occurence (or five), the Chiefs — who are primed to take advantage of the Giants’ porous pass defense, at least on paper — should roll, big time.

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TopekaRoy....You really outdid yourself in the opening post! I was howling with laughter!

As to the game....I figure this is a classic trap game. The Giants have looked like they would have trouble beating a high school team but they are still pros in the NFL and you don't get there by being as bad as the Giants have looked. They are assuredly pished-off and looking to salvage some pride from this season AND they are playing at home. If the Chiefs take this game for granted they will get whupped. That said, Reid generally has his team ready to play excellent football after the bye so I'm expecting a close and hard-fought game with the Chiefs pulling away in the 4th quarter.