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    Game Preview from ESPN.com

    Raiders visit Chiefs in key AFC West battle

    The AFC West showdown between the Kansas City Chiefs and the visiting Oakland Raiders on Sunday already loomed as a potential shootout.

    The drama of a three-way tie atop to the division plus Chiefs cornerback Marcus Peter's suspension and the injury status of wide receiver Amari Cooper makes this Week 7 rematch compelling.

    Oakland scored a wild come-from-behind 31-30 win in the first meeting this season thanks to a touchdown on an untimed down after time expired.

    "It was a heck of game, very entertaining, certainly for the fans," Raiders coach Jack Del Rio said. "It was a tightly contested ballgame, lot of production from both sides and we were able to scratch out a win."

    The fortunes of the two clubs swing viciously since that October night in Oakland. The Chiefs entered the game with a 5-1 record, building a commanding divisional lead. The Raiders entered the game 2-4 on a four-game losing streak and watching their postseason aspirations slip away.

    Now both clubs stand atop the AFC along with the Los Angeles Chargers. The teams face each other over the season's final month, creating a round-robin of sorts for the division title.

    Chiefs coach Andy Reid tries to downplay the idea of a make-or-break game, but he left little doubt the importance of Sunday's noon matchup at Arrowhead Stadium.

    "You got to come out, you got to play well, you got to do the things where you come out," Reid said. "That's how this league is. We like to say it's week-to-week but it really is. We say it but this league is so competitive and every week is an important week. It's no different than this week here. It's very, very important."

    Del Rio said teams understand the important of late-season divisional games.

    "You like to think as a coach you bring that intensity every week but I think guys that you're playing twice a year and you know a little bit better, there's a little bit of natural tenancy to ratchet it up," Del Rio said.

    Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith agrees.

    "These are hard fought games," Smith said. "They are close and they come down to the smallest of things. You scratch and you fight for all those little things. You anticipate it probably being a similar situation, coming down to the end of the game and who can make the play."

    Both teams may have incentive to find greater ferocity this week with absences taking a toll. Reid suspended his All-Pro cornerback Peters for the game following his outburst during Sunday's 38-31 loss to the New York Jets. Peters picked up an official's penalty flag and heaved it into the crowd before leaving for the locker room with more than two minutes remaining.

    Cooper's availability remains a question mark for the Raiders. He missed Sunday's 24-17 victory over the New York Giants with a concussion.

    He exited the league's concussion protocol this week, but remains on the sidelines with an ankle injury. Cooper torched the Chiefs for 11 catches and 210 yards with two scores in Week 7.

    The Chiefs played that game without cornerback Steven Nelson, who missed the first seven games with a core muscle injury. The club also added veteran corner Darrelle Revis, who made his Chiefs debut Sunday against the Jets.

    Del Rio remains wary of the Chiefs defense even without Peters.

    "Obviously anytime a player goes down whether it's an injury, whether it's something like this, you treat it the same and I'm sure they will," Del Rio said. "You go on to the next player. They've got good players. It's really the Raiders versus the Chiefs and we all have to adjust based on different guys being available or not."

    Oakland also has a weapon little-used in their last outing against the Chiefs. Running back Marshawn Lynch rushed only twice for nine yards before earning a disqualification from the game. He rushed on the field after Peters earned a flag for unnecessary roughness for a hit on quarterback Derek Carr.

    "I think he's done a nice job for us," Del Rio said. "We're glad to have him. He's been really effective, went over 100 yards last week, which was the first time on the year. We like the way he's working at it."

    The coaches may not want to admit the importance of a single game, but Smith admits the significance given the logjam atop the AFC West standings and the Raiders' earlier win in Oakland.

    "This is it, we are in the fourth quarter of the season," Smith said. "Three out of the four are division games. These next two, it is a three-way tie. We are going to play the two other guys these next two weeks. We can't get ahead of ourselves. Right here, we have a team that beat us earlier this year and we have to find a way to rebound."
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    Chiefs-Raiders scouting report, key players to watch, and a prediction
    From The Kansas City Star


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    The Chiefs and NFL by beat writer Terez Paylor

    DECEMBER 08, 2017 11:59 AM
    UPDATED DECEMBER 08, 2017 05:10 PM

    Scheme

    Head coach: Jack Del Rio
    (92-90) is in his third year with Oakland and 14th overall as a NFL head coach. Del Rio, 54, is a USC product who played 11 years as an NFL linebacker. He spent several years as a linebackers coach with the New Orleans Saints and Baltimore Ravens until he was hired to be the Carolina Panthers’ defensive coordinator in 2002. The next year, he was hired to coach the Jacksonville Jaguars, where he went 68-71 over nine years, guiding the Jaguars to the playoffs twice. After he was let go, he latched on with Denver, where he helped the Broncos win three straight AFC West titles and reach Super Bowl XLVII as their defensive coordinator. He was hired to be the Raiders’ head coach in 2015 and has helped a previously hapless franchise return to respectability, going 24-19 since his hire.

    Offense: Todd Downing, 37, is in his first year as the Raiders’ offensive coordinator after spending two years as quarterbacks coach. A former semi-pro quarterback, Downing spent years in multiple positions with the Minnesota Vikings and St. Louis Rams before he was promoted to be the Detroit Lions’ quarterbacks coach in 2011. After a stint with Buffalo in the same role, he rose to his current position with the Raiders after Del Rio decided to fire Bill Musgrave, whose offense was criticized for being too conservative and for starting too slow. Oakland ranks 15th in passing offense (241.2 yards per game) and 25th in rushing offense (93.3). Oakland is passing the ball 61 percent of the time, eighth-most in the league. They are one of the league’s least-reliant teams when it comes to play-action, calling it just 11 percent of the time (31st in the league), according to Football Outsiders. It’s also not very effective, as their 5.6-yard average on such plays ranks dead last.

    Defense: John Pagano, 50, is in his first year as Oakland’s defensive coordinator. Pagano, who played linebacker at Colorado Mesa University in the mid 1980s, spent five years coaching in college before he was hired as a defensive assistant with the New Orleans Saints in 1996. He worked his way up in various defensive positions with the Indianapolis Colts and San Diego Chargers before he was promoted to be their defensive coordinator in 2012, a position he held through 2016, when coach Mike McCoy was fired. Pagano was then hired to be the Raiders’ assistant head coach and was promoted to his current position following the firing of previous coordinator Ken Norton, Jr., in late November. Oakland runs a 4-3 defense that ranks 23rd in the league in pass defense (241.1 yards allowed) and 25th in sacks (22). The Raiders’ run defense ranks 11th in the league (104.9 allowed). Teams have had success using play-action against the Raiders, as they’ve surrendered 8.2-yards per play in such instances — 24th in the league.

    Special teams: Brad Seely, 61, is in his third year as the Raiders’ special-teams coach. Before his hire in Oakland, Seely had served as special-teams coach for six different teams. Kicker Giorgio Tavecchio has made 13 of 16 field-goal attempts, and his 81 percent conversion rate ranks 25th in the league. Punter Marquette King has dropped 24 of his 50 punts inside the 20, sixth in the league. He’s also third in the league in net punt average (third). The Raiders rank 16th in kickoff returns (21.5 yards per return) and 27th in punt returns (5.6). They also rank eighth in kick-return coverage (19.7) and 12th in punt-return coverage (6.5).

    Four keys to a Chiefs victory

    1. Attack this defense at multiple levels


    The Raiders’ defense stinks at forcing interceptions; they’ve only recorded one all season, and that was by an inside linebacker who just joined the team in October (NaVorro Bowman). No one in this secondary has consistently made plays on the ball, which means Chiefs receiver Tyreek Hill, tight end Travis Kelce and running back Kareem Hunt need to be schemed up to get the ball in multiple ways, as the Raiders simply havem’t been able to punish teams for throwing on them. Hill and Kelce both caught touchdowns when the teams last met in mid-October, while Hunt rushed for 87 yards and caught four passes. Quarterback Alex Smith went off for 342 yards and three touchdowns. A repeat performance would be nice, and perhaps necessary, in a game that could easily be a shootout.

    2. Somebody get a body on Jared Cook, please

    In a year in which the Raiders’ passing offense hasn’t been as dynamic as it has been in years past, Cook — a free-agent signee in March — has been good. The ninth-year tight end actually leads this team in catches (43) and receiving yards (546), and he absolutely lit the Chiefs up in the Raiders’ 31-30 win on Oct. 19, catching six passes for 107 yards. The Chiefs’ used second-year pro Eric Murray on Cook in that game, and Murray struggled to deal with Cook’s size (he has six inches and 50 pounds on Murray). Murray is dealing with an ankle injury this week, but whoever the Chiefs put on Cook in obvious pass situations needs to be ready for the challenge.

    3. Make these guys go the length of the field

    Raiders quarterback Derek Carr lit up the Chiefs up the last time they met, passing for 417 yards and three touchdowns. Many of those plays came via the long ball, as Amari Cooper dominated Terrance Mitchell and Co. by catching 11 passes for 210 yards. Even though Cooper might not play this week due to a concussion, with star corner Marcus Peters sidelined due to a one-game suspension, you better believe the Raiders are going to attack Mitchell, Darrelle Revis, Steven Nelson and anyone else the Chiefs throw out there at corner with the long ball. That said, the Chiefs may need to play some two-deep coverage and make these guys put some long drives together. The Raiders’ speed at receiver will be a problem, and the Chiefs simply cannot give up the chunk plays they did last time they met the Raiders.

    4. It’s time to man up

    Yes, this is overly simplistic, but really there’s no other way to put it. This team is in hell right now. Losers of four straight and six of seven, it’s time to come together and heal as a team. Amazingly, the Chiefs are still tied with the Raiders and Los Angeles Chargers for first in the AFC West, and by winning out they could still take the division and earn a home playoff game. That said, there is zero reason — ZERO — for the energy or effort to be off on Sunday. There needs to be enthusiasm shown after big plays, small and large, and somebody will need to do something to give this team some juice early. This team is too good to be mired in a funk like this. The Chiefs’ best and most highly paid players need to show up in this one and lead from the front. After a 5-0 start, this game will either be remembered as the nadir of an epic collapse or a turning point of a season in which the Chiefs showed a tremendous amount of resiliency. It’s up to them to decide how they want to be remembered.

    Four Raiders to watch

    No. 4, QB Derek Carr, 26 years old, 6-3, 214, fourth season


    Ranked No. 11 on the NFL’s top-100 list for 2017. Pro Bowler in 2016, when he completed 63.8 percent of his passes for 3,937 yards, 28 touchdowns and only six interceptions in 15 games. Team captain. On pace to complete 64.4 percent of his passes for 3,641 yards, 23 touchdowns and 11 interceptions this season. Generally sees the field well and has plus arm talent — can drive the ball downfield and make all the throws, particularly short and intermediate. Also capable at throwing on the run, though he generally gets rid of the ball very quickly. Possesses a slighter build than some might prefer in a quarterback. Solid athlete who isn’t super elusive in the pocket (only six broken tackles, near the bottom for starting QBs).

    No. 24, RB Marshawn Lynch, 31 years old, 5-11, 215, tenth season

    Sat out last year as he rested his body following a 2015 season in which he rushed 111 times for 417 yards and three touchdowns in only seven games because of various lower-body injuries. On pace to rush 187 times for 744 yards (4.0 yards per carry) and eight touchdowns this season. Runs with terrific balance, power and strength. Is shifty with quick feet and never stops churning his legs. Relishes contact and seeks it out. Can bully soft-tackling defenders with a ferocious stiff-arm. Hard to bring down when he has a head of steam (39 broken tackles, 13th in NFL). Catches the ball OK and can be a factor in that area. Strong, willing and reliable pass blocker.

    No. 15, WR Michael Crabtree, 30 years old, 6-1, 214, ninth season

    Caught 89 passes for 1,003 yards and eight touchdowns in 2016 and is on track to catch 88 passes for 669 yards and eight touchdowns. Has caught 13th-most passes in the NFL since 2015 (216), and fifth-most touchdowns (23). Lines up everywhere. Not a blazing-fast runner — most corners can run with him — but he’s strong, runs good routes and pairs strong hands with plus ball skills. Regularly wins contested balls and plays bigger than his size, which makes him a terrific red-zone threat. Is also a chain-mover who is one of the league’s best players on third down. Super-competitive player who enjoys talking trash; legitimate irritant who consistently finds a way to get under the skin of opposing corners.

    No. 52, DE Khalil Mack, 26 years old, 6-3, 252, fourth season

    Ranked No. 5 on the NFL’s top-100 list for 2017. Pro Bowler and All-Pro selection in 2016, when he recorded 73 combined tackles and 11 sacks in 16 games. Has combined the second-most sacks in football (33 1/2 ) since 2015. Team captain. On pace to finish with 75 combined tackles and 11 sacks. Has also racked up 17 quarterback hits and 40 quarterback hurries this season (second-most in NFL), and has recorded a sack in three straight weeks. Boasts an excellent combination of athleticism, strength and awareness. Elite pass rusher who is also a very strong run defender and consistent tackler. Sheds blocks effectively; going his way is often futile. Is a strip-sack threat who forces fumbles when he’s near the quarterback. Clutch player who dials it up in the fourth quarter; his 12 fourth-quarter sacks since 2015 is the second-most in football. Competitive and tough, he’s one of the NFL’s best players, overall.

    Additional scouting notes

    ▪ Running back Jalen Richard is the No. 2 back behind Marshawn Lynch, and he also shares carries with another backup, DeAndré Washington. But you can make a good argument Richard has been more effective than either. His yards-per-carry average (4.5) tops both Lynch’s (4.0) and Washington’s (2.9).

    ▪ Running back Marshawn Lynch has been more effective in recent weeks as the offensive line has been allowed to do more of the power stuff they prefer. Lynch broke a 51-yard run — his longest of the season — last week against the New York Giants.

    ▪ Receiver Cordarrelle Patterson isn’t a great receiver, but he still boasts great speed and has made some plays recently. He’s caught a 50-yard reception in the fourth quarter of the last two games to help the Raiders seal a pair of wins.

    ▪ Tight end Lee Smith is a strong run blocker. He’s flashes nastiness in this area and can win at the point of attack.

    ▪ The Raiders’ offensive line is only yielding pressure at a rate of 20.4 percent, best in the league. Former Chiefs center Rodney Hudson is the rock of a big, strong line I really like. I also love left guard Kelechi Osemele and left tackle Donald Penn.

    ▪ Tackle Vadal Alexander occasionally enters the game as a sixth offensive lineman when the Raiders want to establish the run and don’t care if you know it.

    ▪ The Raiders’ pass rush starts with Khalil Mack, but you also better keep an eye on Mario Edwards (3 1/2 sacks, nine QB hurries), Bruce Irvin (5 1/2 sacks, seven QB hurries) and Denico Autry (four sacks, six QB hurries).

    ▪ The Raiders’ defensive line is a little better than you think against the run. Justin “Jelly” Ellis is the linchpin.

    ▪ Inside linebacker NaVorro Bowman has stabilized the Raiders’ front seven, but he’s missed some tackles this year (16, tied for the fifth-most in football).

    ▪ Former Chiefs cornerback Sean Smith is back in the mix for the Raiders after being relegated to the bench for several games. He even logged 60 of 62 possible plays a week against the Giants. Teams have had some success attacking Smith vertically, but he hasn’t played bad this season.

    ▪ Safety Karl Joseph hasn’t made the number of impact plays you’d expect a No. 14 overall pick (2016) to make, but he’s a solid run defender and solid starter overall. Veteran Reggie Nelson is solid against the run as well, but teams have had some success throwing at him.

    Marquette King is still an outstanding punter. He boasts an elite leg and can flip field position easily.

    ▪ The Raiders rank 16th in the league in penalties, as they’ve been whistled 80 times for 730 yards.

    Prediction: Chiefs 27-24

    I’m changing my mind on this — sue me. The Chiefs lost on Sunday for the sixth time in seven games because the defense fell apart, and it certainly doesn’t help that Marcus Peters won’t play against a team that threw for 417 yards the last time these two teams met. But while this football team needs to earn your trust again, I can’t shake the feeling they’ll finally bounce back. Coach Andy Reid is good against the AFC West, and the offense finally showed signs of life last week against the Jets. They no longer deserve the benefit of the doubt, but if they lose this game — which would give the Raiders their first season sweep of the Chiefs since 2012 — you can basically put a fork in these guys.
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    I updated some of the streams in post #2, but so far there are still no streams for the Chiefs game at SportsAreFree, Wiz1, Zunoxide, Boss Cast and Stream2Watch. They may have been threatened with legal action or they may all get their streams from the same source which hasn't posted it yet. I'll check again at 11:30 CT and update if they are available.
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    TY for setting the thread up TR. Shame the pic of Titanic is so appropriate...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopekaRoy View Post
    Thanks. I'm not done, yet ...
    How about my spread? I have to use a 15' HDMI cable from my computer to my little 32" TV (via DirecTV) Game time soon. Pacing the floor as usual. Come on Chiefs, let's take this game!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TopekaRoy View Post
    I updated some of the streams in post #2, but so far there are still no streams for the Chiefs game at SportsAreFree, Wiz1, Zunoxide, Boss Cast and Stream2Watch. They may have been threatened with legal action or they may all get their streams from the same source which hasn't posted it yet. I'll check again at 11:30 CT and update if they are available.
    Hope that if you find them you post them here in the body of the thread. If sportsarefree.xyz could you suggest a second best choice? Shame is we lose that xyz stream. It was EXCELLENT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KCMASS View Post
    How about my spread? I have to use a 15' HDMI cable from my computer to my little 32" TV (via DirecTV) Game time soon. Pacing the floor as usual. Come on Chiefs, let's take this game!
    That sounds complicated to this old man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctchiefsfan View Post
    Hope that if you find them you post them here in the body of the thread. If sportsarefree.xyz could you suggest a second best choice? Shame is we lose that xyz stream. It was EXCELLENT.
    I'm checking and updating the links now. SportsAreFree is up and running. Stand by for the others.
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    Well...not to belabor the obvious, but this game is pretty much do or die for our season. Beat the Raiders and we will still be very much in contention for the AFC West title. Lose and we may well still "mathematically" be in contention for the playoffs but realistically we'll be about done. As a bloodthirsty Raider-Hater I find a certain pleasure in this. It's December and our season is sinking. But a win today against the HATED Raiders could right the ship and set us up for a final 3 game stand that could save our season. AND IT'S AGAINST THE RAIDERS! It's tough to get much better than that in December!

    ​GO CHIEFS!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by topekaroy View Post
    and by for the others

    i'm checking and updating the links now. sportsarefree is up and running. Stand by for the others.
    you're the best roy! I can't thank you enough!!!!

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