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    Chiefs may change QBs if offense doesnt start producing

    By RANDY COVITZ
    The Kansas City Star

    Chiefs coach Herm Edwards is looking for a spark to his offense.

    Hes tired of the three-and-outs, hes weary of the Chiefs scoring 13 first-quarter points in eight games, and hes frustrated with averaging just 15.5 points per game, 29th in the NFL.

    That spark could come at quarterback in the form of second-year man Brodie Croyle.

    Veteran Damon Huard is still the starter and will open Sundays game against the Denver Broncos, Edwards said Tuesday.

    But Edwards also intimated that hes contemplating a change if the Chiefs even without running back Larry Johnson in the lineup cannot generate more first downs, more yards and, most important, more points with Huard at quarterback.

    Damons the guy hes done OK, Edwards said of Huard, who has led the Chiefs to a 4-4 record despite shaky offensive-line play and the absence of No. 1 wide receiver Eddie Kennison for all but a handful of snaps.

    But my whole deal now is if were going to win this division or have a shot at it, weve got to score more points, Edwards said. We cant keep playing the way were playing. There comes a point to where if we dont get this thing going, Im going to have to do something.

    The Chiefs rank 30th in total offense, 30th in rushing and 17th in passing. Huard, who started eight games last season and had a 98.0 passer rating that was second in the NFL to Peyton Mannings 101.0, ranks 20th this season at 79.1 and has thrown eight touchdowns and nine interceptions. Hes also been sacked 23 times.

    Its not always on the quarterback, its on a lot of other people, too, Edwards said, but we have to find a way to be more productive in points. Were just going along, going along, and now were going into our ninth game but whats great about it is we still have a shot at winning the division. Thats the good thing.

    It hasnt helped that the Chiefs kickoff-return team ranks 29th, resulting in an average starting position at the 22 1/2 -yard line. That ranks 31st in the league and gives the offense poor field position to start drives.

    It seems like were always starting inside the 20, Edwards said. Youre always asking your offense to go 80 yards. Thats hard to do. There are a lot of things we need to do better, and its not just the quarterback.

    Croyle, the clubs third-round draft pick in 2006, was given every opportunity to win the starting job during training camp and the preseason, but poor judgments on his part led to interceptions in exhibition games. He failed to seize the job, even as Huard was sidelined because of a calf injury.

    We have to do a better job offensively because it puts a lot of pressure on you when you play like that, Edwards said. I dont like going in at halftime when its 6-0 or 10-3 its too much pressure because youre always one play away from being down two scores when you play games like that.

    Id like to have like a 20-point lead, and go in there, and say, Wow. I might not come back. I might go home.

    Croyle has made mop-up appearances in losses to Chicago and Jacksonville this season, completing 10 of 17 passes for 138 yards with one touchdown, no interceptions and two sacks.

    The way Croyle can demonstrate whether he is ready, Edwards said, is by going into a game.

    Thats the only time you can really show the team is by playing, and he hasnt had the opportunity to play yet, Edwards said, but obviously, thats something you juggle with as a head coach.

    Its week nine, we have eight games left

    If and when Edwards makes the move, it will be for keeps. After Sundays game, the Chiefs play Nov. 18 at Indianapolis, which may not be the most hospitable place for Croyles debut as a starter. That will be followed by home games against Oakland and San Diego.

    When you make a move like that, in my opinion, you live with it, Edwards said. Thats always a position that raises the eyebrows. You can change receivers, you can change offensive linemen, you can change the secondary but when you change the quarterback, its a big deal, and it should be a big deal because thats the guy.

    Theres going to come a time, and I dont know when that time is, but if we keep struggling, Im going to have to do something. Offensively, thats the last position I can do anything about.

    Edwards made a similar move in 2002 with the New York Jets when he promoted Chad Pennington, then in his third season, over veteran Vinny Testaverde.

    I did it in New York because I felt like we needed a spark, and it got us sparked, Edwards said of a Jets team that started 1-3 and was 8-4 the rest of the way with Pennington. The Jets won the AFC East and went 1-1 in the playoffs.

    Chiefs president/general manager Carl Peterson, who usually prefers going with the safer, more experienced quarterback, understands Edwards dilemma.

    We need to score more points, so Herms got to do what hes got to do there to stimulate that, particularly in the first half, Peterson said.

    Its always tough, Edwards added. Its the toughest decision you make. __________________
    THAT quarterback is NOT a Pro Bowl quarterback. Never was and never will be.

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    Hmmmm...

    Is there a possibility HERM could be actually learning??
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    Quote Originally Posted by hermhater View Post
    Hmmmm...

    Is there a possibility HERM could be actually learning??
    If you ask me, he is teaching in this matter.

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    I still maintain that it isn't going to matter who takes the snaps if the "O" line continues to stink up the place. JMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefster View Post
    I still maintain that it isn't going to matter who takes the snaps if the "O" line continues to stink up the place. JMHO
    This, in all likelihood, is true. However, maybe the offensive linemen will become more naturally protective of the young kid.

    Of course they could also find new energy in their efforts of run-blocking, if they have Priest to motivate and help instruct them.

    It's kind of a long-shot, but one never knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chief31 View Post
    This, in all likelihood, is true. However, maybe the offensive linemen will become more naturally protective of the young kid.

    Of course they could also find new energy in their efforts of run-blocking, if they have Priest to motivate and help instruct them.

    It's kind of a long-shot, but one never knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bryonc View Post
    Ya know, I like the way you think.
    Never thought you would hear that did ya.
    I try to keep the hope alive, so long as there is any hope to keep alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chief31 View Post
    This, in all likelihood, is true. However, maybe the offensive linemen will become more naturally protective of the young kid.

    Of course they could also find new energy in their efforts of run-blocking, if they have Priest to motivate and help instruct them.

    It's kind of a long-shot, but one never knows.
    Anything is possible; probability is yet another matter, but I hope you're right. I don't mind the taste of crow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefster View Post
    I still maintain that it isn't going to matter who takes the snaps if the "O" line continues to stink up the place. JMHO

    I have been saying this all along. It's great to be agreed with.

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    I thought our offense did produc better Sunday. Still not great, but improving.
    Everything happens for a reason.

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