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    This is a harsh opinion, but I'm throwing it out there.

    So when do we start Croyle? The last game of the season? Unless they draft offensive linemen and acquire some talent off the market(which they won't) the O will be just as terrible next year as it is this year. So do it now. Yes, it will be tough. It will also show what he's made of in toughness and mentality.

    They knew they had issues going back to last year and even the pre-season. Did they bring in any starting free agents? Nope. Did they draft any potential starting O-line players? Nope.

    Herm and Peterson keep telling us that the team needs to be younger but keep bringing in old talent. ie Law, Surtain, Turley, etc. Instead they invested a boat load of money into an ineffective RB in Larry Johnson who didn't even have the decency to honor his contract. That guy is another T.O. and Moss and infects the locker room like a virus. They should have kept Bennett and sent his sorry a$$ packing when he pulled that. Call Vermeil what you want, but he brought in good decent players you liked and they performed for him. He didn't like LJ and I guess we're starting to see why.

    Personally, the rest of this season is a wash. Yeah, we might win the West, but it sure isn't anything to brag about like past years. That will be it, because we can't even come close to competing in the playoffs. Start Croyle, maybe rotate some developing O line players and let's give the "QB of the future" some experience and serious playing time.

    Huard will not win us a Superbowl, the O line will not win us a Superbowl and a strong defense alone will not win us a Superbowl. I want a Bowl appearance and I really could care less about winning the AFC West. I think we sell ourselves short and are settling for less if all we really care about is the AFC West. We as fans need to demand more.

    I'm so disappointed this year. I knew we would struggle, but not to this extent. There are so many problems that this team needs to address. All the way from ageing corners, ageing QB and a failure of an effective O line. They need to really, really shake something up now! You also never hear if Huard has even taken a leadership role in this team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaschief View Post
    no no no no...don't get me wrong. I'll be saying that in a few years. I'd much rather the Chiefs have used this season as "growth" year for their young players. It makes me sick every week Damon Huard is our starter. We're accomplishing nothing as a franchise this season. Even if we make the playoffs, as we're going now, we won't go far. And, we'd only be there because every other team in our division is experiencing similar problems to what we're having.

    So, we might actually get a muligan for this season and could get a chance to do it right next year. This team is a good 2 years away from becoming a Super Bowl contender and I'd like to see Herm get the chance to show he can build a great team. He had a shot in New York, but his QB couldn't stay healthy.
    I think our primary differences are on the subject of how to encourage "growth" in a young quarterback, What to do with a young quarterback who struggles, and, of course, rather or not to encourage "sand-bagging".

    And maybe the reasons for Chad Penningtons oft-injured career. And.... Well, ok. there are alot of things, I guess.

    But, I believe that you do have the best interests of the Chiefs in mind, overall.

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    I just love it when people consider you dumb for having your own opinion.
    THAT quarterback is NOT a Pro Bowl quarterback. Never was and never will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guru View Post
    I just love it when people consider you dumb for having your own opinion.
    Yeah, especially since the only reason anyones opinion is dumb, is when it isn't the same as mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chief31 View Post
    Yeah, especially since the only reason anyones opinion is dumb, is when it isn't the same as mine.
    Yes, we are aware of this fault of yours.
    THAT quarterback is NOT a Pro Bowl quarterback. Never was and never will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guru View Post
    Yes, we are aware of this fault of yours.
    Yes highly aware.




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    Quote Originally Posted by chief31 View Post
    I think our primary differences are on the subject of how to encourage "growth" in a young quarterback, What to do with a young quarterback who struggles, and, of course, rather or not to encourage "sand-bagging".

    And maybe the reasons for Chad Penningtons oft-injured career. And.... Well, ok. there are alot of things, I guess.

    But, I believe that you do have the best interests of the Chiefs in mind, overall.
    Putting your future offensive leader and best QB prospect on the field isn't "encouraging sandbagging". If your guy doesn't get any in-game experience, how will he learn? Are you banking on garbage time to allow him to play? Who knows, we could've been better with Croyle. But, we could've been worse, thus setting us up nicely to pick a QB up early in the draft if Brodie absolutely bombed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaschief View Post
    Putting your future offensive leader and best QB prospect on the field isn't "encouraging sandbagging". If your guy doesn't get any in-game experience, how will he learn? Are you banking on garbage time to allow him to play? Who knows, we could've been better with Croyle. But, we could've been worse, thus setting us up nicely to pick a QB up early in the draft if Brodie absolutely bombed.
    And risk a possible playoff birth which we'll lose in the first round? How dare you speak suck a thing! [/sarcasm]
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    Quote Originally Posted by luv View Post
    And risk a possible playoff birth which we'll lose in the first round? How dare you speak suck a thing! [/sarcasm]
    nothing else has worked. this kind of team is all we've had with Carl Peterson. We've had 4 or 5 head coaches during the CP riegn...one of which has won two super bowls. 3 of which have had success with other teams.

    I only see one constant here....


    Please Mr. Hunt....please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaschief View Post
    nothing else has worked. this kind of team is all we've had with Carl Peterson. We've had 4 or 5 head coaches during the CP riegn...one of which has won two super bowls. 3 of which have had success with other teams.

    I only see one constant here....


    Please Mr. Hunt....please.

    This is in NO WAY condoning the actions of Queen Carl concerning the management of OUR Chiefs...

    But since he got here, we have not had a blackout locally that I can remember.

    I'm not sayin..., I'm just sayin...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hermhater View Post
    This is in NO WAY condoning the actions of Queen Carl concerning the management of OUR Chiefs...

    But since he got here, we have not had a blackout locally that I can remember.

    I'm not sayin..., I'm just sayin...
    again, i think he'd be a great President. He just has just plateued as a GM. He has established a culture around Kansas City. Chiefs fans are loyal (obviously). They aren't going anywhere. It's time to give those fans a championship. It's been half a century. I think the ownership group and upper management (including Carl) should do and make the best moves possible to win a championship, and after 20 years, Carl has to realize when it's time to step down.

    The problem is, only the GOOD GMs realize when it's time to walk away...so, which comes first, the chicken or the egg?

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