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    This is a harsh opinion, but I'm throwing it out there.

    So when do we start Croyle? The last game of the season? Unless they draft offensive linemen and acquire some talent off the market(which they won't) the O will be just as terrible next year as it is this year. So do it now. Yes, it will be tough. It will also show what he's made of in toughness and mentality.

    They knew they had issues going back to last year and even the pre-season. Did they bring in any starting free agents? Nope. Did they draft any potential starting O-line players? Nope.

    Herm and Peterson keep telling us that the team needs to be younger but keep bringing in old talent. ie Law, Surtain, Turley, etc. Instead they invested a boat load of money into an ineffective RB in Larry Johnson who didn't even have the decency to honor his contract. That guy is another T.O. and Moss and infects the locker room like a virus. They should have kept Bennett and sent his sorry a$$ packing when he pulled that. Call Vermeil what you want, but he brought in good decent players you liked and they performed for him. He didn't like LJ and I guess we're starting to see why.

    Personally, the rest of this season is a wash. Yeah, we might win the West, but it sure isn't anything to brag about like past years. That will be it, because we can't even come close to competing in the playoffs. Start Croyle, maybe rotate some developing O line players and let's give the "QB of the future" some experience and serious playing time.

    Huard will not win us a Superbowl, the O line will not win us a Superbowl and a strong defense alone will not win us a Superbowl. I want a Bowl appearance and I really could care less about winning the AFC West. I think we sell ourselves short and are settling for less if all we really care about is the AFC West. We as fans need to demand more.

    I'm so disappointed this year. I knew we would struggle, but not to this extent. There are so many problems that this team needs to address. All the way from ageing corners, ageing QB and a failure of an effective O line. They need to really, really shake something up now! You also never hear if Huard has even taken a leadership role in this team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timsatt1 View Post
    well what i was implying is that there is no need to respond because i already realize that no one else on this board agrees with what i just stated...only me.

    so i was just saying you dont need to respond saying "you are way wrong blah blah"

    it is understood that the rest of the board thinks that.

    so that is why i say...wait till after the game(s)

    and the truth will be told about a runningback who cant beat the d around the outside and only runs up the middle.
    I understand that, and agree that you may well be the only one who feels the way that you do. My point is that no one member has the right to dictate the course other members take the conversation within the thread. If they want to respectfully disagree with you here and now then they have the right to do so. Not trying to pick a fight here, just stating my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guru View Post
    POT calling the kettle black I see.
    What's all this talk about black pot??? :p

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefster View Post
    What's all this talk about black pot??? :p
    DOH!!
    THAT quarterback is NOT a Pro Bowl quarterback. Never was and never will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guru View Post
    DOH!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefster View Post
    What's all this talk about black pot??? :p
    Quote Originally Posted by Guru View Post
    DOH!!

    This is not black, but still...



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    Quote Originally Posted by hermhater View Post
    This is not black, but still...



    Ya see, I thought it was green.

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    If we had a good QB/O-line (whatever), we could become a very good passing team. Kennison, Webb, D-Bowe, and that other guy...what's his name...oh yeah, Gonzo!! This offense isn't far off...except for a QB and line...

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaschief View Post
    If we had a good QB/O-line (whatever), we could become a very good passing team. Kennison, Webb, D-Bowe, and that other guy...what's his name...oh yeah, Gonzo!! This offense isn't far off...except for a QB and line...
    Get the "O" Line straightened out and the QB situation will follow IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaschief View Post
    Putting your future offensive leader and best QB prospect on the field isn't "encouraging sandbagging". If your guy doesn't get any in-game experience, how will he learn? Are you banking on garbage time to allow him to play? Who knows, we could've been better with Croyle. But, we could've been worse, thus setting us up nicely to pick a QB up early in the draft if Brodie absolutely bombed.
    Exactly where I already said that we disagree. Especially since you would go and draft a QB if he doesn't play well. Peyton Manning didn't play well in his first season either. I am thrilled that by him sitting this long, he is going to get a real chance to succeed. Because even if he struggles people may not be in as big a hurry to replace him. I would much rather see him get a chance to play when we have a solid offense for him to work with.

    I think, I know I have said it alot, that from the sidelines, a young qb gets alot of experience. Very little "garbage time" is neccessary, in my opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by timsatt1 View Post
    yes that is what i am saying, we havent destroyed ANY team this year...so that is why i make the prediction that we WILL EXPLODE our load on the broncos. our offense is going to be astounding. Run game...simply amazing.

    yes, broncos suck at stopping the run....so to that i say...the game AFTER this one, we will have a good running game. We will probably lose since it is the colts, but our offense will look good against em.

    Priest will show you the impact he has on this team. It will be noticable beyond the shadow of any doubt.

    dont argue with this post...just wait till the game then shove it in my face if i am wrong.

    but my prediction is that johnson's lack of being able to get around the outside or to get anywhere after a catch is what hurt our offense the most...again, i know that NO ONE here agrees with me on that....that is why i make this prediction....so you can respond and say "YOU ARE WAY WRONG!!! or you can wait till after the game, then shove this post in my face if i am wrong.

    but remember kids, i am right 98.8% of the time, and i DONT think our O LINE is horrible.

    i blame LJ's style of run. Teams figure out, oh, he runs up the middle 73% of the time, lets stack the box with 9 players, dont worry about the outside, if he goes, well catch up to him.

    the reason he is no longer effective is because teams did stat analysis on him and figured him out and found out how limited he is as a runningback.

    WOOHOO! that is the truth. 98.8%
    I'm not sure why you think you are alone on this line of thinking. It is such an easy stance to take, considering that our running game has been so poor, so far. It's not like you are going out on some limb by saying that you expect it to improve now.

    I would venture to gguess that the majority around here feel the same way. With so much room for improvement, why would anyone be shocked to see the change cause an improvement? It's not like the running game can get much worse.

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    at this point in the season, unless he's just awful, you're right, you shouldn't draft another QB in april. But, the Chiefs were about to pull the trigger on Quinn this year.

    If we turn the ball over to Croyle right now, you have to wait at least till 09 to draft another QB. If we had started Croyle at the start of the season, we'd have a better idea about him. But like i said earlier, Carl's decision to go with Huard has set this team back another 2 years at the QB position...and that's if Croyle is THE GUY. If he's not, CP has set us back another 5.

    It's just demoralizing to know this franchise has no foresight.

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