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    This is a harsh opinion, but I'm throwing it out there.

    So when do we start Croyle? The last game of the season? Unless they draft offensive linemen and acquire some talent off the market(which they won't) the O will be just as terrible next year as it is this year. So do it now. Yes, it will be tough. It will also show what he's made of in toughness and mentality.

    They knew they had issues going back to last year and even the pre-season. Did they bring in any starting free agents? Nope. Did they draft any potential starting O-line players? Nope.

    Herm and Peterson keep telling us that the team needs to be younger but keep bringing in old talent. ie Law, Surtain, Turley, etc. Instead they invested a boat load of money into an ineffective RB in Larry Johnson who didn't even have the decency to honor his contract. That guy is another T.O. and Moss and infects the locker room like a virus. They should have kept Bennett and sent his sorry a$$ packing when he pulled that. Call Vermeil what you want, but he brought in good decent players you liked and they performed for him. He didn't like LJ and I guess we're starting to see why.

    Personally, the rest of this season is a wash. Yeah, we might win the West, but it sure isn't anything to brag about like past years. That will be it, because we can't even come close to competing in the playoffs. Start Croyle, maybe rotate some developing O line players and let's give the "QB of the future" some experience and serious playing time.

    Huard will not win us a Superbowl, the O line will not win us a Superbowl and a strong defense alone will not win us a Superbowl. I want a Bowl appearance and I really could care less about winning the AFC West. I think we sell ourselves short and are settling for less if all we really care about is the AFC West. We as fans need to demand more.

    I'm so disappointed this year. I knew we would struggle, but not to this extent. There are so many problems that this team needs to address. All the way from ageing corners, ageing QB and a failure of an effective O line. They need to really, really shake something up now! You also never hear if Huard has even taken a leadership role in this team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hermhater View Post
    Because you finally paid attention to others posts, and quit being this guy...

    I've BEEN paying attention. I haven't said anything new tonight or agreed with the "fire Herm", "Huard is awesome", or "offense is everything" arguments I always see on here.

    AM I WRONG? AM I WRONG?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guru View Post
    Nah, we are just cursed in the playoffs. That's all.
    NO WE'RE NOT CURSED!!!!!!

    I REFUSE TO BECOME THE BOSTON REDSOX AND BLAME EVERYTHING BUT OURSELVES FOR NOT WINNING A CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaschief View Post
    I've BEEN paying attention. I haven't said anything new tonight or agreed with the "fire Herm", "Huard is awesome", or "offense is everything" arguments I always see on here.

    AM I WRONG? AM I WRONG?
    But you have managed to say it with minimum insults.

    No you are not wrong, but I really think an awesome Offense is mandatory at Arrowhead.

    I watched it happen for quite a while, over some pretty good AFC West opponents during the last 10, or 12 years.

    This has been the most competitive division in the NFL for quite some time. (F@rk the Colts, and Pats, they suck...)

    And we have been in it since the early 90's.

    This is much bigger than "Huard" vs "Croyle", this is Chiefs football, and the way they have been SCREWED by Carl Petersen.

    Just use the talent HERM and make the team work.

    Please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaschief View Post
    NO WE'RE NOT CURSED!!!!!!

    I REFUSE TO BECOME THE BOSTON REDSOX AND BLAME EVERYTHING BUT OURSELVES FOR NOT WINNING A CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!
    We cursed ourselves, duh!!!
    THAT quarterback is NOT a Pro Bowl quarterback. Never was and never will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaschief View Post
    THAT'S EXACTLY MY POINT!!!

    It's not ALL about offense. What could've happened in '03 if we could've stopped the Colts JUST ONCE?!! The guy has had 2 offseasons and one and a half regular seasons with this team and y'all act like he's had a decade to draft well on both sides of the ball.

    we probably wouldn't be as worried about our team if your beloved Dick Vermiel had been a better coach and left us with more than 7 out of 38 draft picks as contributing players on this team.

    Herm has already blown Vermiel away in the draft.
    Here you go agaian. Bashing great coaches, in favor of an arguably decent head coach.

    Her's some fuel for you...

    Vermiel went to a horrid Eagles team, and took them to the Super Bowl in his fourth season.

    Cowher was the youngest head coach to ever take a team to the Super Bowl, when he did it in his fourth season.

    Herm is in his seventh season, including wearing out his welcome after five, with the Jets. Where does he stand by that comparison?

    As for our current defense, I say they are led by two of Vermiels guys. Jared Allen and Derrick Johnson. Not that I am dissing Herms eye for defensive talent, but you paint a picture of Herms guys dominating this defense, when there is something else going on.

    You rip Vermeil for not supplying defense, but ignore all of Herms offenses. I understand that you think he needs more time to show what he can do, but you ignore his faults, or just let them pass, while raging about Vermiel and Cowhers' failures.

    Don't ya think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hermhater View Post
    But you have managed to say it with minimum insults.

    No you are not wrong, but I really think an awesome Offense is mandatory at Arrowhead.

    I watched it happen for quite a while, over some pretty good AFC West opponents during the last 10, or 12 years.

    This has been the most competitive division in the NFL for quite some time. (F@rk the Colts, and Pats, they suck...)

    And we have been in it since the early 90's.

    This is much bigger than "Huard" vs "Croyle", this is Chiefs football, and the way they have been SCREWED by Carl Petersen.

    Just use the talent HERM and make the team work.

    Please?
    maybe it's just me, but i remember making the playoffs during the days of "Marty ball" and dominant defenses in the 90's. In the last 20 years, I've seen good defenses make the playoffs more than good offenses. So, that's what i base most of my opinions off of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chief31 View Post
    Here you go agaian. Bashing great coaches, in favor of an arguably decent head coach.

    Her's some fuel for you...

    Vermiel went to a horrid Eagles team, and took them to the Super Bowl in his fourth season.

    Cowher was the youngest head coach to ever take a team to the Super Bowl, when he did it in his third season.

    Herm is in his seventh season, including wearing out his welcome after five, with the Jets. Where does he stand by that comparison?

    As for our current defense, I say they are led by two of Vermiels guys. Jared Allen and Derrick Johnson. Not that I am dissing Herms eye for defensive talent, but you paint a picture of Herms guys dominating this defense, when there is something else going on.

    You rip Vermeil for not supplying defense, but ignore all of Herms offenses. I understand that you think he needs more time to show what he can do, but you ignore his faults, or just let them pass, while raging about Vermiel and Cowhers' failures.

    Don't ya think?
    I forgot to add that after twenty years away from coaching, Vermiel started over with another aweful team, and took them to the Super Bowl, in...his third season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaschief View Post
    maybe it's just me, but i remember making the playoffs during the days of "Marty ball" and dominant defenses in the 90's. In the last 20 years, I've seen good defenses make the playoffs more than good offenses. So, that's what i base most of my opinions off of.
    That ain't good enough anymore.

    I won't have it.

    Sorry chief31, but I'm tired of ONLY making the playoffs.

    With the lack of parity in the NFL now, and dynasties happening every decade, I don't buy it.

    It takes dirty ball to win championships, and HERM is too clean a guy to do that.

    SUPERBOWL OR NOTHING!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chief31 View Post
    You rip Vermeil for not supplying defense, but ignore all of Herms offenses. I understand that you think he needs more time to show what he can do, but you ignore his faults, or just let them pass, while raging about Vermiel and Cowhers' failures.

    Don't ya think?
    Could we substitute a few different names in here? :p
    Everything happens for a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hermhater View Post
    That ain't good enough anymore.

    I won't have it.

    Sorry chief31, but I'm tired of ONLY making the playoffs.

    With the lack of parity in the NFL now, and dynasties happening every decade, I don't buy it.

    It takes dirty ball to win championships, and HERM is too clean a guy to do that.

    SUPERBOWL OR NOTHING!

    Give me your definition of dirty ball before I decide if I agree with you or not.

    Last year, we got luck to make it. This year, if we win the division, it will be due to being the least worst team in the AFCW. Being the least worst doesn't make us good or Super Bowl caliber. I agree that playoffs will be an embarrassment at this point.
    Everything happens for a reason.

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