Time to talk some Chiefs football

[matthewschiefs]

So the offseason has been a very busy one for me but it's finally coming to a close and training camp is quickly coming. It's time to talk some things Chiefs.

1. We have to start with the over-sized elephant in the room Tyreek Hill. I think there is only one thing certain that Hill is going to get an suspension. Many might not agree with this. But I think it's coming. I have heard nothing to prove either side of this but it brought negative attention to the league. And we have seen before no charges filed but a suspension. I think that's what going to be the outcome of the Hill case. As for my opinion of Hill I won't lie it has changed from what it was before this. I learned a long time ago not to buy into the athlete but cheer the play. If Hill plays this year I will keep doing that. I wasn't there I don't know what the hell happened. I have said on a few platforms I really wish the Chiefs would look to get something for him. While they can. And there's still a large part of me that feels that way. I just don't think at this point the Chiefs or any other team can just assume nothing else will happen with him. That's just my thoughts on this whole thing. But I'm going to be one of those people who say that I'm done if Hill is on the Chiefs. I am a Chiefs fan that doesn't mean I have to be a fan of anyone on the team. I don't dislike Hill in anyway. I just simply would not be as mad as I would of been before this if they moved him. I don't think that it's going to happen. My guess is 6 games and then Hill is back. But it's the NFL so you never know what's going to happen. Just my thoughts on this whole mess.

2. Ok now lets get to the football MAN am I excited to see the DEFENSE. I ranted throughout last season that I thought the coaching was the biggest flaw on that side of the ball. The fact that Andy Reid started the year with Bob Sutton as the DC was bad but then to never fire him during the season when it was pretty damn clear that it needed to be done could have very well been a fireable offense. I have over the course of the last two years been a little sour on Reid for just things like this. BUT this year I am pumped to see what the defense will look like. I don't think the talent last year was bottom of the league and think they have improved talent wise. Dee Ford was good but he wasn't Frank Clark. And hopefully they actually get some decent coaching and the disicpline is better. with less penalties. Coaching is a huge part of the game. Look at the first half of the AFC title game and you see it slapping you across the face. This years coaching I believe will be MUCH improved and the defense will be much better. Maybe not top of the league but they won't have to be that. Just able to get stops when they really have to have them. And this will be a much better year. I am excited about this part of the team unlike last year.

3. The offense. Lets just take a moment and be real. There is not a great chance that Mahomes goes for another 50tds. That was a special season last year and they don't happen that often. I think he will be high 30s at least maybe into the lower 40s but 50 is a lot to ask. I don't think that they are going to score as many points as they did a year ago. Last year a lot of things just went right for the Chiefs on the offense. I think we are going to see a little bit of a step back from them. Hill being possibly gone for at least part of the year isn't going to make matters better. What I want to see is just consistency from them. I wasn't expecting last year to go the way that it did. I fully expected more growing pains for Mahomes so maybe I will be surprised again and they will be able to match what they did a year ago. I know I am excited to see what Micole Hardman can do. You match more speed and Mahome's arm and just look at the defense and say good luck.

I go into every year looking for a reason to think that the Chiefs will be able to contend. Some years it takes a lot of talking myself into. After last year it was really easy to do this year. With the bulk of the young core back and the improvements on what really cost them last season I really think this is going to be a great year baring a Mahomes injury. I am very excited to see what happens and pumped to start seeing things from training camp.GO CHIEFS

[brdempsey69]

To me that's on Andy Reid. Lets be real here for a minute the offense in the big games has always had struggles. Even the first half of the AFCCG.

Sorry, but it is not Andy Reid. Reid can't block or tote the ball for his players. It's up to the players to execute. That 3rd and short in the 1st half of that game where Williams got stuffed, Kareem Hunt would have likely picked up that 1st down.

[matthewschiefs]

Sorry, but it is not Andy Reid. Reid can't block or tote the ball for his players. It's up to the players to execute. That 3rd and short in the 1st half of that game where Williams got stuffed, Kareem Hunt would have likely picked up that 1st down.

Maybe Hunt would have

But go back and watch that game. Tell me that this team came out as well prepared as the Pats did. Can you? Reid can't execute for the players true. But what he can do is put a gameplan together and prepare the team. And it was clear as day that he didn't do anywhere as close to the job Belichick did.This is something that has happened with Reid teams before Williams played one down in the NFL. So while yes execution was a part of it when you have a track record of the same thing time after time that points to you. And Reid has that track record. That's just how I look at it

[brdempsey69]

Maybe Hunt would have

But go back and watch that game. Tell me that this team came out as well prepared as the Pats did. Can you? Reid can't execute for the players true. But what he can do is put a gameplan together and prepare the team. And it was clear as day that he didn't do anywhere as close to the job Belichick did.This is something that has happened with Reid teams before Williams played one down in the NFL. So while yes execution was a part of it when you have a track record of the same thing time after time that points to you. And Reid has that track record. That's just how I look at it

I'm not saying that Reid wasn't to blame for the team not being better prepared to play that first half -- he was. My point about what I posted earlier was that Williams didn't perform better than Hunt after Hunt left. And you can't get around the fact that Hunt was a Patriot-killer, as I know of no RB that has performed better against the Pats during this Brady-Belichick tenure than what Hunt did. I still believe if the Chiefs had Hunt in the AFCCG, we would have seen some points go up on the scoreboard in that 1st half.

[matthewschiefs]

I'm not saying that Reid wasn't to blame for the team not being better prepared to play that first half -- he was. My point about what I posted earlier was that Williams didn't perform better than Hunt after Hunt left. And you can't get around the fact that Hunt was a Patriot-killer, as I know of no RB that has performed better against the Pats during this Brady-Belichick tenure than what Hunt did. I still believe if the Chiefs had Hunt in the AFCCG, we would have seen some points go up on the scoreboard in that 1st half.

Let me just say look at the year before the loss to the Titians Hunt only had 42 yards rushing and 5 as a WR. He got 14 touches for 47 yards. Williams had over 60 as a WR alone against the Pats.

I just don't think that we can say what Hunt would have done. We have seen him shut down under Andy's offense in the postseason before. Hunt did do some great things in regular season matchups true. But the postseason is far different. We can't just assume that Hunt would have matched what he did in regular season games. IMO

[Seek]

Sorry, but it is not Andy Reid. Reid can't block or tote the ball for his players. It's up to the players to execute. That 3rd and short in the 1st half of that game where Williams got stuffed, Kareem Hunt would have likely picked up that 1st down.

You really have to stop bashing peoples opinion when you through opinion out there as FACT. We don't now if Hunt would have picked that up. Pure speculation.

[brdempsey69]

You really have to stop bashing peoples opinion when you through opinion out there as FACT. We don't now if Hunt would have picked that up. Pure speculation.

No, I will call out your opinion when it is contrary to the fact. My analysis was based on fact, not opinion as the numbers & the overhead camera back the germane point that I made (based on fact, not opinion, as you are trying to suggest) & do not back what you are saying.

Here is another nugget for you based on fact & not opinion:

During the first 11 games of last season, just how many Chiefs fans were calling for Hunt to be replaced by Williams? The correct answer is NOBODY, because the response to such a suggestion would've been "that's totally LUDICROUS".

And your suggestion of "throwing an opinion out there as fact" is only telling people that you can't discern the difference between somebody expressing an opinion & somebody telling it like it is.

Let me just say look at the year before the loss to the Titians Hunt only had 42 yards rushing and 5 as a WR. He got 14 touches for 47 yards. Williams had over 60 as a WR alone against the Pats.

I just don't think that we can say what Hunt would have done. We have seen him shut down under Andy's offense in the postseason before. Hunt did do some great things in regular season matchups true. But the postseason is far different. We can't just assume that Hunt would have matched what he did in regular season games. IMO

Sorry, but this is not a good comparison. It's more like apples-to-oranges rather than apples-to-apples. Hunt only got 5 touches in the 2nd half of that game. The correct analysis is more along the lines that "Hunt wasn't given the opportunities" more so than "the Titans shutting him down".

Besides, this doesn't get around what I said earlier that Williams was NOT better than Hunt after Williams replaced Hunt. I watched all the games & I saw nothing to even remotely suggest such a thing.

As I said, Williams performed well enough in Hunt's absence to warrant a further looksee in 2019. If Williams does in fact perform better than Hunt did in 2018 & 2017, then GREAT -- the Chiefs will benefit from that. But, for right now, I will call a spade, a SPADE.

[matthewschiefs]

Sorry, but this is not a good comparison. It's more like apples-to-oranges rather than apples-to-apples. Hunt only got 5 touches in the 2nd half of that game. The correct analysis is more along the lines that "Hunt wasn't given the opportunities" more so than "the Titans shutting him down".

Besides, this doesn't get around what I said earlier that Williams was NOT better than Hunt after Williams replaced Hunt. I watched all the games & I saw nothing to even remotely suggest such a thing.

As I said, Williams performed well enough in Hunt's absence to warrant a further looksee in 2019. If Williams does in fact perform better than Hunt did in 2018 & 2017, then GREAT -- the Chiefs will benefit from that. But, for right now, I will call a spade, a SPADE.

I wasn't making a comparison I was just showing that under Reid Hunt was limited in the big game. It is a history that has followed Reid his entire coaching career.

Your point about Hunt getting only 5 touches in the 2nd half is exactly what I mean. If you go back and look at my postgame from that titans game I was PISSED about it. And that's why I don't think we can say that Hunt would have done anything that would have been the difference. We have seen Reid limit what he does in the past. Who knows what would have happened if Hunt was there. With Reid's history in the post season I just don't think you could assume Hunt would have been used to his fullest. Or he would have done anything that Williams didn't do. Coaching is a big deal IMO. And IMO coaching was where we lost that game. Hunt might have been a difference maker sure. But then again he might not have.

[Eydugstr]

So the offseason has been a very busy one for me but it's finally coming to a close and training camp is quickly coming. It's time to talk some things Chiefs.

1. We have to start with the over-sized elephant in the room Tyreek Hill. I think there is only one thing certain that Hill is going to get an suspension. Many might not agree with this. But I think it's coming. I have heard nothing to prove either side of this but it brought negative attention to the league. And we have seen before no charges filed but a suspension. I think that's what going to be the outcome of the Hill case. As for my opinion of Hill I won't lie it has changed from what it was before this. I learned a long time ago not to buy into the athlete but cheer the play. If Hill plays this year I will keep doing that. I wasn't there I don't know what the hell happened. I have said on a few platforms I really wish the Chiefs would look to get something for him. While they can. And there's still a large part of me that feels that way. I just don't think at this point the Chiefs or any other team can just assume nothing else will happen with him. That's just my thoughts on this whole thing. But I'm going to be one of those people who say that I'm done if Hill is on the Chiefs. I am a Chiefs fan that doesn't mean I have to be a fan of anyone on the team. I don't dislike Hill in anyway. I just simply would not be as mad as I would of been before this if they moved him. I don't think that it's going to happen. My guess is 6 games and then Hill is back. But it's the NFL so you never know what's going to happen. Just my thoughts on this whole mess.

2. Ok now lets get to the football MAN am I excited to see the DEFENSE. I ranted throughout last season that I thought the coaching was the biggest flaw on that side of the ball. The fact that Andy Reid started the year with Bob Sutton as the DC was bad but then to never fire him during the season when it was pretty damn clear that it needed to be done could have very well been a fireable offense. I have over the course of the last two years been a little sour on Reid for just things like this. BUT this year I am pumped to see what the defense will look like. I don't think the talent last year was bottom of the league and think they have improved talent wise. Dee Ford was good but he wasn't Frank Clark. And hopefully they actually get some decent coaching and the disicpline is better. with less penalties. Coaching is a huge part of the game. Look at the first half of the AFC title game and you see it slapping you across the face. This years coaching I believe will be MUCH improved and the defense will be much better. Maybe not top of the league but they won't have to be that. Just able to get stops when they really have to have them. And this will be a much better year. I am excited about this part of the team unlike last year.

3. The offense. Lets just take a moment and be real. There is not a great chance that Mahomes goes for another 50tds. That was a special season last year and they don't happen that often. I think he will be high 30s at least maybe into the lower 40s but 50 is a lot to ask. I don't think that they are going to score as many points as they did a year ago. Last year a lot of things just went right for the Chiefs on the offense. I think we are going to see a little bit of a step back from them. Hill being possibly gone for at least part of the year isn't going to make matters better. What I want to see is just consistency from them. I wasn't expecting last year to go the way that it did. I fully expected more growing pains for Mahomes so maybe I will be surprised again and they will be able to match what they did a year ago. I know I am excited to see what Micole Hardman can do. You match more speed and Mahome's arm and just look at the defense and say good luck.

I go into every year looking for a reason to think that the Chiefs will be able to contend. Some years it takes a lot of talking myself into. After last year it was really easy to do this year. With the bulk of the young core back and the improvements on what really cost them last season I really think this is going to be a great year baring a Mahomes injury. I am very excited to see what happens and pumped to start seeing things from training camp.GO CHIEFS

Good post.

1) The Chiefs have become the pet owners of two elephants - One that's out in the front yard for everyone to see, speculate and bash on (Tyreek Hill) and the other elephant, which is somewhere (less visible) inside the house rooting for peanuts in the couch cushions (The defense).

At this point I'm sick of hearing about Tyreek Hill. After listening to the audio clip lost any sympathy for Tyreek or his baby mama. Feel sorry for their kid, but since the police dropped the investigation far as I'm concerned it's all in Goodell's hands. Like Seek said, he'll probably go overboard on Tyreek, but more for PR for the league than anything. I'd wager a beer or soda that it'll be an 8 game suspension. At this point I'd much rather see what the other WR's can bring to the table. If we get Tyreek back, great. If not, hoping Watkins has a breakout full season.

2) Yes the defense will be different, but given the track record I'm not for sure that Spags (or going to the 4-3} is the answer. I'm not sad that Sutton got the boot - the man really struggled when his game plan was figured out and was just too stubborn to try something else. Just wish the Chiefs had gone a different direction coaching wise and figured out a way to keep the 3-4 under a more aggressive coach. Don't get me wrong, I really want to see this D work out and will be happy to eat crow if we return to the AFC championship game and beat the Patriots when it matters.

Yes would agree Clark is an upgrade over Dee Ford. Really liked what I saw with Dorian O'Daniel. But it wasn't our LB's that was the problem. It was our secondary. We had way too much money tied up a Safety that didn't play (Berry) and nowhere near enough tied up in the talent that did. And now we're going to a defense that offers less backside protection and is gambling on more pressure up front, while one of our best D-lineman is haggling over money and likely won't come to the table. Can understand why Reid wants to do massive changes with the D, but from the looks of it the front office isn't stepping up to help.

3) While this goes against all logic, Think it's very possible for Mahomes and this offense to get another 50 TD season. Too many weapons on this offense, and some more possibly waiting in the wings. My question is will they stay healthy? If they do, no problem, count on being right back in the playoffs.

[Seek]

During the first 11 games of last season, just how many Chiefs fans were calling for Hunt to be replaced by Williams? The correct answer is NOBODY, because the response to such a suggestion would've been "that's totally LUDICROUS"

What does this have to do with anything? Who cares if anyone called to replace Hunt with Williams in the first 11 games. IT is FACT that when HUNT and left Williams came in, and the OFFENSE Still functioned way above Average. Williams still was a HUGE factor with the Chiefs coming back on the Patriots in the AFC champions ship.

NO Where did I say he was better than HUNT as I think your comment above is leading too. Losing HUNT does not bother me based on what Williams did at the end of the season, and clearly the Chiefs feel the same. Your opinion to the matter isn't FACT. It is still speculation NO FACTs.

[Seek]

D. Williams started 3 Games. He averaged 5.1 yards per carry and had 4 rushing touch downs. He caught 23 of the 24 passes thrown at him for an average of 7.8 yards per catch, with 2 touch downs.

K. Hunt started 11 games. He averaged 4.6 yards per carry and had 7 TD. He caught 26 of 35 pass attempts for an average of 14.5 yards and 7 touch downs. He was also penalized with four personal fouls and fined for illegally hitting a player that was not flagged.

Hunts biggest asset was out of the back field. Williams ran for more yards per carry, and was targeted more in the passing game.