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    Post Webnews: Where will J.J. Watt land?

    By Mike Florio

    He won’t play for the Texans. So where will J.J. Watt play in 2021? The folks at PointsBet already have compiled odds. The strong favorite, at +140, is Pittsburgh. The Packers and Buccaneers come in next at +400 each, with the Ravens at +600, and the Bears at +700. Four teams land at +1100: Bills, [more] Read more…

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    id love to see him in a chiefs uniform. but we habe bigger issues. olineoline and oline,wr, cb, lb all needs.

    finding our next left tackle is our biggest need. fisher will not play at all next year. no way he's recovered.

    Swartz no telling with his back.
    center amd guards.

    solve oline issues with the draft.

    wr we need to get a cheap experienced #2 wr. we can't draft and wait a year for them to gain experience. let Robinson and Watkins walk. Hardman is just a gadget player. he hurts the offense when he's on the field more then he helps it. he and mahomes as been out of sync all year on passing. id rather Hardman throws go to a more reliable receiver atleast it would move the chains. plus Hardman will never be an x receiver.

    oline----- have swartz back if healthy and at a lower cost. he may be the only returning starter.

    osemolee if healthy bring him back at a team friendly 1 year deal.

    I liked Kilgore at center of Reiter. id bring Kilgore back as a backup.

    let Reiter and Wylie walk.

    algeriti guy think improved this year.

    I'm not sold on ldt coming back next year. if you recall he was one of our weekspots on our oline that year. was it just a bad year for him or was it a decline in his skills?

    the rookie that opted out last year can fight for a spot at guard next year then kick out to tackle the following year and replace swartz or move to other depending who he bring in for lt this year.

    lt -free agent,
    lg- rookie,
    center- rookie,
    rg- ldt or algriti,
    rt- swartz or rookie we drafted last year or a rookie

    our back up that played lt in superbowl id bring back as a backup. he did ok at rt. just dont put him at lt.

    Reiter and Wylie need to be gone.

    lb draft

    cb free agency. supposed to be a bad year talent wise in cb class this year.

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    Dude isn't what he use to be an we have bigger issues
    TopekaRoy is my hero!

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    No thanks to JJ. Too many injuries, and will be really expensive to sign. Think Pittsburg will be the better match for him because of his brother.

    O-line is a need that would outweigh getting somebody like JJ, healthy or not. Front office did give Spags some CB with Sneed but middle linebacker is where we got exposed in the SB, and I'd love to see us draft someone really good there. Think we should be able to find some O/D-line prospects in the later rounds of the draft as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eydugstr View Post
    No thanks to JJ. Too many injuries, and will be really expensive to sign. Think Pittsburg will be the better match for him because of his brother.

    O-line is a need that would outweigh getting somebody like JJ, healthy or not. Front office did give Spags some CB with Sneed but middle linebacker is where we got exposed in the SB, and I'd love to see us draft someone really good there. Think we should be able to find some O/D-line prospects in the later rounds of the draft as well.
    I agree I think he ends up with Pittsburgh
    TopekaRoy is my hero!

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    I did a mock Draft for the Chiefs. And had some interesting results.

    Pick 31. Round 1 - Dillon Radunz
    OT, North Dakota State


    Dillon Radunz aligns at left tackle for the Bison offense. Relatively speaking, he plays with good overall athleticism with regards to body control and balance. In the run game, he is excellent. He has a nasty disposition as a run blocker and wants to maul you. He can improve his proficiency at getting on moving defenders at the second level, but there's nothing alarming in this regard. He remains upright and demonstrates instances of good lateral redirect agility. He has the frame to gain more mass and bulk, which should make him more effective.

    Ideal Role:
    Starting NFL tackle with the ability to swing.


    Scheme Fit:
    Power run scheme or any offense that relies on timing


    Pick 63: Round 2 -
    Josh Myers
    IOL, Ohio State



    Josh Myers projects as a starting center at the NFL level—but his fit is going to be dependent on the key responsibilities his offense requires of him to execute. Myers is a big-bodied center with a pleasant level of lateral mobility to play along the line of scrimmage, but he lacks the dynamic short-area quickness to consistently win isolated reps climbing to the second level or pulling and working out in front of plays that stretch to the boundary. Myers, with his boxy frame, is best suited to work in the phone booth. This isn’t to say he can’t work wide zone concepts or climb off of double teams to pick off linebackers, but he’s not an overly dynamic player in space at this point and his lack of balance and control on the B-level of the defense will allow crafty defenders to take advantage and test him to shoot gaps and attack the front. Myers is predominantly a right-handed shotgun snapper, but he has been given reps at OSU that allow him to snap to a quarterback under center and he’s handled those situations well in short yardage. Myers’ functional athleticism may cap his ceiling as a player, but he’s got the build and strength in his game to serve as an average starter at the pro level. If he’s able to uncover some additional quickness, he could become a more scheme-diverse target for the 2021 NFL Draft and his ceiling could grow; though that would likely require some reworking of his body composition.

    Ideal Role
    : NFL starting center.


    Scheme Fit
    : Inside zone heavy rushing offense; passing offense with high-volume shotgun formations.

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    Pick 94: Round 3 -
    Amari Rodgers

    WR, Clemson


    Amari Rodgers was a factor in 2018 and 2019 but saved his best for last as he hauled in 77 receptions for 1,020 yards and seven touchdowns during his final campaign at Clemson in 2020. The veteran of the receiving corps in 2020, Rodgers was the go-to guy for the Tigers’ offense during his last season. Rodgers is a slot receiver that is built like a running back. He thrived with manufactured touches and then using his physicality, burst, vision, and decisiveness to work after the catch. As his production increased as a senior, so did his role in the offense. 2020 saw Rodgers produce more down the field in addition to his work in the short to intermediate areas of the field. He has reliable hands, plays a physical brand of football, and is a good athlete. When it comes to identifying areas of growth for Rodgers, developing his route tree and finding more consistency when challenged at the catch point stand out. Rodgers lacks length and struggles to extend his catch radius which creates some limitations. Rodgers has a chance to be a featured slot receiver in the NFL for an offense predicated on timing.

    Ideal Role
    : Primary slot receiver that gets some manufactured touches and opportunities to create in space while providing value with his punt return ability.


    Scheme Fit
    : West Coast, Horizontal Spread.




    Pick 136: Round 4 -
    Daelin Hayes

    EDGE, Notre Dame



    EDGE defender Daelin Hayes projects as a hybrid pass rusher in the NFL. The Irish used him frequently in 2020 to stack in a two-point stance and attack the LOS from tight alignments. He did well there, too—Hayes nearly equaled his career-high for a single season with six tackles for loss and tied his career-high with three sacks on the year. Hayes appeared slimmed down in 2020 and was listed at 258 pounds, which allowed him to play with some nice fluidity and smoothness to go along with his length and heavy hands on the edge. Hayes will draw plenty of appeal for his build—he’s ready to step in and contend at the point of attack and his ability to reset blockers and collapse to generate some creases in protection will afford him the chance to serve as a valuable role player in the NFL. Hayes’ ceiling, without further fundamental development, is an early-down defender on the LOS who would need several other prominent pieces in an attack style defense to afford him on-vs-ones and wins as a pass rusher with any level of consistency. That said, he’s got a clear role to play and could start in the right environment.

    Ideal Role
    : SAM linebacker.


    Scheme Fit
    : 4-3 under front.

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    Pick 144: Round 4 -

    LaBryan Ray

    IDL, Alabama




    • Pros (+): Ray is a thickly layered defensive line prospect that possesses lots of body armor. While he won’t impress with his ball get off or acceleration off of the line of scrimmage, he displays a tremendous amount of leverage as hand fights at the point of attack when necessary. His value comes strictly as a run defender, but he’s a defender than can play in both 3-4 and 4-3 schemes in multiple spots. His impact won’t always show up in the stat sheet, but his presence is felt heavily when his side is attacked. Fight, tooth, and claw type of defender that will fight through the echo of the whistle in order to maintain his gap. Ray will provide plenty of gap discipline against the run and maintain where he’s designed to be.


      Cons (–):
      Predominantly a two down threat that won’t give defenses much of anything on third down or obvious passing situations. Out of the starting blocks, he’s a bit delayed as he nearly has to stand up prior to progressing forward with his pass rush attempts. Hardly ever any moves are incorporated as a pass rusher and he defers to being a bull rusher, simply looking to overpower defenders on his way to throwers.


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    Pick 176: Round 5 -

    Kelvin Joseph

    CB, Kentucky




    Kelvin Joseph is a long perimeter cornerback prospect who should have the opportunity to develop into a starting outside option for a team. Joseph, who was an early entree into the 2021 NFL Draft, has the kind of length that is very popular right now in the NFL game and has been exposed to a number of different roles throughout the course of his career. He was charged with periodically following Florida TE Kyle Pitts but also has played deep third coverage against some of the more prominent offenses on the Wildcats' schedule—including Alabama. Joseph enjoyed a fruitful season at Kentucky and found the football on a number of occasions, illustrating down-the-field ball skills and effective contesting ability at the catch point. A former LSU Tiger, Joseph has about as slim of a resume as you can get; he played nine games for the Wildcats in 2020 after sitting out the 2019 season on account of transferring in from LSU and will take his talent to the pro game with just 20 total games played at the college level. Because of his inexperience, expect sporadic results in coverage and inconsistent recognition skills until he’s able to allocate more reps and increase his route combination awareness and add more polish to his technique. I wouldn’t endorse an early role, but the three-year projection looks much more favorable than the one-year forecast in 2021.

    Ideal Role
    : Developmental starting outside cornerback.


    Scheme Fit
    : C-3 or Quarters coverage frequency in zone. Can play press-man coverage for more aggressive defenses as well.



    Pick 180: Round 5 -




    Josh Sills

    IOL, Oklahoma State




    • Pros (+): Playing the left guard spot throughout his career at West Virginia, but has since transferred to Oklahoma State after graduating (Dec. 2019). Missed the final 10 games of the 2019 season with a shoulder injury. Prior to that point, Sills started in 24 of the 27 career games that he participated in at West Virginia. Sills have two years remaining after receiving a medical redshirt after only playing in two games last season (Extra Note). Sills is a guard prospect that’s built like an offensive tackle. He has a linear frame with thin ankles, which help him play in the teams fast paced offense. Sills has long arms that enable him to extend and lock out defenders at the point of attack. No matter the intensity levels of the opposition, his length helps him cancel out impending moves quickly after the initiation of them. A frequent finisher, he plays reps all the way through the whistle that often end with finishing matchups on the ground in some capacity. Also a savvy player, he keeps his vision clean with scanning each side and straight ahead seeking to help out surrounding who may be overwhelmed with their one-on-one matchup.As a run blocker, he plays well within his domains, but often asked to be a puller on gap/power blocking schemes. Sills moves at his own pace, but he’s accurate with hitting standstill targets when pulling across the formation. He serves to be a more ideal fit in a man/gap/power blocker skill based on his baseline traits and scheme comfort.


      Cons (–):
      Sills has been involved in the Mountaineers up-tempo offense and it has been able to mask many of his deficiencies. After an extended amount of time in reps, his pad level tends to rise at an alarmingly high rate. He also maintains his aggressive nature, but it can often get him in trouble with being too eager at the point of attack. Accuracy with second level climbs on zone runs when his gap is uncovered or when coming off of double teams with the center is an area that has remained inconsistent.


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    Pick 217: Round 7 -

    Jaylon Moore

    OT, Western Michigan




    Playing in 37 career games (32 starts), Moore is a well-experienced blocker who has manned the left tackle spot since the 2018 season. The wealth of experience has helped him develop into a well-rounded blocker. A fluid mover in pass protection, he has easy movement skills in and out of his pass sets. As a run blocker, he comes out of the starting blocks with plenty of aggression. He's an adequate option in the run game, but his motor tends to quickly fade. Sustaining that demeanor throughout blocks is another step to unlock in his development. An athletic tackle, he excels in zone-based blocking schemes, but has the power to run gap scheme runs in spots. His length comes into play in many areas, but his balance can be an issue as he leads with his head a lot into blocks. Resulting in his falling forward often, his technique with lunging into blocks will need to be corrected. An enticing project to work with, Moore will need time to correct his blocking technique and also his habit of leading with all of his weight forward at the point of attack.

    Ideal Role
    : Developmental late-round offensive tackle.


    Scheme Fit
    : Zone blocking scheme.

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