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    Clinton, McCain emerge as comeback winners in New Hampshire primary



    WASHINGTON - Democrat Hillary Clinton pulled off an unexpected narrow victory in New Hampshire on Tuesday, dramatically rescuing her bid for the White House in a tense battle with Barack Obama.
    Clinton, who's fighting to become the first woman in the Oval Office, mounted a surprisingly strong showing after bracing for a second defeat following her devastating third-place showing in Iowa.
    Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y. greets a familiar face. THE ASSOCIATED PRESS/Elise Amendola
    Republican John McCain also nabbed a major comeback victory, putting him solidly back in his party's nomination race.
    While Obama, vying to make history as the first black U.S. president, scored big among independents and voters between 18 and 24, Clinton attracted lower-income voters and seniors and did best among voters citing the economy as their top concern.
    But a big factor for Clinton was women voters, who had gone over to Obama in large numbers in Iowa. Nearly half in New Hampshire were once again supporting her, while Obama got only a third.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanilla Garilla View Post
    I did not once Bash on Palin, although there is plenty of material i could use if i wanted to :P
    Politicians by their very nature gives us all material by which to bash them, and why not; they're more then compensated. I'm convinced that they really don't care how we feel about them; except, of course, around election time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bike View Post
    At one point I was working 3 jobs and my wife worked full time so that we could take care of our family. Its called working your a$$ off to support your family. Its sad that we have become so lazy in this country that we need the gov't to take care of us.
    You reap what you sow.
    And you feel that you should be required to hold four jobs just to get by?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bike View Post
    I recently asked a friend's little girl what she wanted to be when she grows up. She said she wanted to be President some day. Both of her parents, liberal Democrats, were standing there, so I asked her, 'If you were President what would be the first thing you would do?'
    She replied, 'I'd give food and houses to all the homeless people.'
    Her parents beamed.
    'Wow...what a worthy goal.' I told her, 'But you don't have to wait until you're President to do that. You can come over to my house and mow the lawn, pull weeds, and sweep my yard, and I'll pay you $50. Then I'll take you over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out, and you can give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house.'
    She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, 'Why doesn't the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?'
    I said, 'Welcome to the Republican Party.'
    Her parents still aren't speaking to me.
    Because, Honey, that job isn't being offered to him. Just to you, Sweetheart.

    But even if it was being offered to him, he doesn't have any transportation to get to work, so I'll fire him after he doesn't make it one time.

    And, since I only offer it to you this one time, and maybe, in part, in another month, that $50 would be his income for the job each month, until winter comes.

    So the job that I refuse to offer him, is really only worth about $20 a month. Because I'll be damned if that work is really worth $50. I think I'll be able to con him down to 20. After all, he's desperate.

    Silly ain't, it, that with me completely unwilling to pay him $20 a month, that he can't find himself a home, ain't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chief31 View Post
    And you feel that you should be required to hold four jobs just to get by?

    Well I certainly don't expect somebody else to do it for me...



    Because, Honey, that job isn't being offered to him. Just to you, Sweetheart.

    But even if it was being offered to him, he doesn't have any transportation to get to work, so I'll fire him after he doesn't make it one time.

    And, since I only offer it to you this one time, and maybe, in part, in another month, that $50 would be his income for the job each month, until winter comes.

    So the job that I refuse to offer him, is really only worth about $20 a month. Because I'll be damned if that work is really worth $50. I think I'll be able to con him down to 20. After all, he's desperate.

    Silly ain't, it, that with me completely unwilling to pay him $20 a month, that he can't find himself a home, ain't it?
    The point being we should have to earn the things we want and need.
    SHUT IT

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    I was told at a very early age the world does not owe me a living. I took it from there
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    Many years ago people came to this country for opportunity, they came here knowing they would have to work, but that hard work would be rewarded. They ran away from places where socialist or communist ideas oppressed them and kept them down. They came here with a skill, some knowledge and the intestinal fortitude to stand up and take a chance.

    Some made it, some didn't be each and every one of them knew the meaning of hard work and did not expect a handout to make it happen.

    How times have changed.

    As my favorite President said:

    "The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life." - Theodore Roosevelt


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanilla Garilla View Post
    OK, this thread has turned into a regurgitation of Sarah Palin's campaign speeches. Just saying.....
    I don't know about that. I have only read one thing of hers since the campaign ended last November.

    What you are seeing posted are conservative viewpoints. Not Republican or far right. There is a difference.
    THAT quarterback is NOT a Pro Bowl quarterback. Never was and never will be.

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    That's all good in theory. But the hardest working people in America are broke as ****.

    Hard work does not translate into financial success.

    The guy who carries the shingles to the top of the roof gets paid the least, while the guy who does no more than to talk gets paid the most.

    Ever heard the term "It takes money to make money"?

    Those who "have" simply squeeze money from those who "have not". Then they label those same "have nots" as lazy.

    And they scream like banshees if the government tries to regulate them in any way. But let the free market speak up against them, in the form of a labor union, and watch them run begging for government regulation.

    And, because they can afford to buy the law, they get it.

    Yet they still move the jobs overseas so they can pay less for the labor that they NEED.

    Then they have the nerve to call the guy they put out of work lazy.

    And do I think that the government should be helping people who are in need? Well... "By the people, FOR THE PEOPLE" Yes I do.

    The vast majority of those who are "in need" don't want a handout. They want to be able to work for their needs.

    But with fewer jobs that can meet those needs than there are people with those needs, there is a guarantee on millions of Americans being unable to make a living.

    greed (grēd)
    n. An excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs or deserves, especially with respect to material wealth

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/greed?jss=1

    Main Entry: greed

    : a selfish and excessive desire for more of something (as money) than is needed

    greed - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

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    Quote Originally Posted by chief31 View Post
    That's all good in theory. But the hardest working people in America are broke as ****.

    Hard work does not translate into financial success.

    There is no sure fire way to be successful, but one thing most successful people have in common is ....hard work.

    The guy who carries the shingles to the top of the roof gets paid the least, while the guy who does no more than to talk gets paid the most.

    The guy who does no more than talk was probably the guy who carried the shingles to the roof at one point.

    Ever heard the term "It takes money to make money"?

    It takes work to make money.

    Those who "have" simply squeeze money from those who "have not". Then they label those same "have nots" as lazy.

    Then earn some money and start squeezing. I think most people who dont work are lazy. Why else would they not be working? I have met plenty of people on welfare or other types of social assistance because working at McDonalds is beneath them.

    And they scream like banshees if the government tries to regulate them in any way. But let the free market speak up against them, in the form of a labor union, and watch them run begging for government regulation.

    And, because they can afford to buy the law, they get it.

    So the employees should be able to dictate how I run my business?

    Yet they still move the jobs overseas so they can pay less for the labor that they NEED.

    Maybe if unions did not price themselves out of work they would not have to go overseas.

    Then they have the nerve to call the guy they put out of work lazy.

    Lazy....greedy....entitled. Whatever u want to call it.
    And do I think that the government should be helping people who are in need? Well... "By the people, FOR THE PEOPLE" Yes I do.

    The vast majority of those who are "in need" don't want a handout. They want to be able to work for their needs.

    But with fewer jobs that can meet those needs than there are people with those needs, there is a guarantee on millions of Americans being unable to make a living.

    greed (grēd)
    n. An excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs or deserves, especially with respect to material wealth

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/greed?jss=1

    Main Entry: greed

    : a selfish and excessive desire for more of something (as money) than is needed

    greed - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
    Im just sayin.
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    A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.

    Thomas Jefferson
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    Quote Originally Posted by chief31 View Post
    That's all good in theory. But the hardest working people in America are broke as ****.

    Hard work does not translate into financial success.

    The guy who carries the shingles to the top of the roof gets paid the least, while the guy who does no more than to talk gets paid the most.

    Ever heard the term "It takes money to make money"?

    Those who "have" simply squeeze money from those who "have not". Then they label those same "have nots" as lazy.

    And they scream like banshees if the government tries to regulate them in any way. But let the free market speak up against them, in the form of a labor union, and watch them run begging for government regulation.

    And, because they can afford to buy the law, they get it.

    Yet they still move the jobs overseas so they can pay less for the labor that they NEED.

    Then they have the nerve to call the guy they put out of work lazy.

    And do I think that the government should be helping people who are in need? Well... "By the people, FOR THE PEOPLE" Yes I do.

    The vast majority of those who are "in need" don't want a handout. They want to be able to work for their needs.

    But with fewer jobs that can meet those needs than there are people with those needs, there is a guarantee on millions of Americans being unable to make a living.

    greed (grēd)
    n. An excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs or deserves, especially with respect to material wealth

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/greed?jss=1

    Main Entry: greed

    : a selfish and excessive desire for more of something (as money) than is needed

    greed - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
    If you are happy being that guy that carries the shingles to the roof of the house, then be that guy. But don't be angry when that job does not pay as much as you need to live.

    If you are unhappy about it, then pick your butt up by your bootstraps, go back to school, study, get some skills and go out and do something else.

    That is what is meant by being lazy. Face it, it doesn't take much knowledge, investment in time, or risk to be the guy that carries the shingles up on the roof, but we need those guys out there. It isn't going to pay you $100K per year though, simply because you are not worth that much, any monkey can carry shingles to the top of the roof.

    Now, if you also have the skills then to start a row of shingles, getting the proper layout, knowing how to interweave the shingles in the roof valley and you know how to cap it off, then you are worth more. If you want more money, go out there and get those skills and prove to your boss that you can do those things.

    But to site there and moan and complain about woah is you that you are not getting enough money for carrying shingles is not going to get it done. If anything, it will only create a situation where you feel resentful and that the world owes you something. Oops, looks like you are there already.

    You need to change you attitude and get out there and make it happen.

    This is somethign I know from personal experience. There was a time when I had to go out and dig ditches for minimum wage, but I did it because I knew that I needed to have a job. I worked hard, I paid attention and every opportunity I had to learn something, to get on a backhoe, or a bulldozer and learn something about it, I took it. Before long, I was moved up because I was WORTH more, then moved up again, and at each step I learned more about what it would take to make that next step.

    About three years later, I was a foreman for the construction company and was in charge of million dollar projects and up to 12 men at a time.

    After realizing I could not work in construction all my life, I changed careers. Again I started at the bottom of my new chosen career, I went back to school and studied hard, learning everything I could.

    6 years later, I am now in charge of multi-million dollar software development projects, I have anywhere from 6 to 10 developers working on my projects at any given time.

    You can do it, but the defeatist attitude has got to go, step up, change your attitude and get out there and work hard, you will be successful.

    Or you can site back and complain about how life is so unfair, your choice.
    Last edited by Hayvern; 10-27-2009 at 12:16 PM.


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