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**hermhater** · 01-08-2008, 11:29 PM

Clinton, McCain emerge as comeback winners in New Hampshire primary

WASHINGTON - Democrat Hillary Clinton pulled off an unexpected narrow victory in New Hampshire on Tuesday, dramatically rescuing her bid for the White House in a tense battle with Barack Obama.
Clinton, who's fighting to become the first woman in the Oval Office, mounted a surprisingly strong showing after bracing for a second defeat following her devastating third-place showing in Iowa.

Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y. greets a familiar face. THE ASSOCIATED PRESS/Elise Amendola

Republican John McCain also nabbed a major comeback victory, putting him solidly back in his party's nomination race.
While Obama, vying to make history as the first black U.S. president, scored big among independents and voters between 18 and 24, Clinton attracted lower-income voters and seniors and did best among voters citing the economy as their top concern.
But a big factor for Clinton was women voters, who had gone over to Obama in large numbers in Iowa. Nearly half in New Hampshire were once again supporting her, while Obama got only a third.

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/080108/w0108115A.html

Crap.

**Hayvern** · 09-24-2010, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by kcvet

i can tell ya. he and liberal MSM are already screamin she was a tea party plant

Well as far as Jon Stewart (I am not a huge fan btw). Anyway, Jon handled it pretty well.

Jon Stewart | CNBC Town Hall | Velma Hart Video | Mediaite

The video is at the bottom of the page.

**kcvet** · 09-24-2010, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Hayvern

Well as far as Jon Stewart (I am not a huge fan btw). Anyway, Jon handled it pretty well.

Jon Stewart | CNBC Town Hall | Velma Hart Video | Mediaite

The video is at the bottom of the page.

oh he did a good job all right. as a comedian. that is his profession. is the laughter from a sound track???? he needs a sedative.

i heard this moron once say we can have a war without anyone getting killed.
next

**Hayvern** · 09-24-2010, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by kcvet

oh he did a good job all right. as a comedian. that is his profession. is the laughter from a sound track???? he needs a sedative.

i heard this moron once say we can have a war without anyone getting killed.
next

I agree with you, I am not a fan of Stewart, I know a lot of people are, but I am not one of them. I just found it interesting that he bothered to talk about it at all and certainly to criticize "his guy" the way he did is uncharacteristic for him.

Of course, the part where he was saying that all of Obama's social programs is what Hart voted for turned my stomach, but at least there is now criticism for the "Great One". Maybe now we can move past the idea that Obama is somehow Holy and get on more with dealing with the issues.

**kcvet** · 09-24-2010, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Hayvern

I agree with you, I am not a fan of Stewart, I know a lot of people are, but I am not one of them. I just found it interesting that he bothered to talk about it at all and certainly to criticize "his guy" the way he did is uncharacteristic for him.

Of course, the part where he was saying that all of Obama's social programs is what Hart voted for turned my stomach, but at least there is now criticism for the "Great One". Maybe now we can move past the idea that Obama is somehow Holy and get on more with dealing with the issues.

Maybe now we can move past the idea that Obama is somehow Holy and get on more with dealing with the issues

I knew this back in 08.

now if you say anything against him your branded as a racists. christ.

**kilobytes** · 09-24-2010, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by kcvet

I knew this back in 08.

now if you say anything against him your branded as a racists. christ.

Well look at it the other way(no one ever does).

If you speak out against someone on the right you are labeled a Socialist or communist. This especially happened in the 20th century. No one even knew what these things truly were.

Liberals can't pull the Capitalist card BECAUSE EVERYONE JUST LOVES IT in this country, not realizing we have a bunch of socialist things that they like. So they just pull the racist card or something else

Both sides don't get it.

**kcvet** · 09-24-2010, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by kilobytes

Well look at it the other way(no one ever does).

If you speak out against someone on the right you are labeled a Socialist or communist. This especially happened in the 20th century. No one even knew what these things truly were.

Liberals can't pull the Capitalist card BECAUSE EVERYONE JUST LOVES IT in this country, not realizing we have a bunch of socialist things that they like. So they just pull the racist card or something else

Both sides don't get it.

long as ive lived ive never seen my country so divided on so many issues since he raised his left hand.

**tornadospotter** · 09-24-2010, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by kcvet

I support term limits. can't leave em in charge when they're senile. already told Kit Bond im voting his A** out. and all incumbants as well.

looks like the hope and change crowd has just about had it with Obama.

she voted for the 08 model and now want's a refund

I never voted for or wanted. I rather like the idea of firing them all! Vote for none of the above!
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VQ8pgySec4"]YouTube - Vote None of the Above (Richard Pryor - Brewsters Millions)[/ame]

**kilobytes** · 09-24-2010, 10:38 PM

Well it is mainly because of how magnified everything is these days with the media. Also the people on the right pulled the terrorist, muslim card which is quite ludicrous (and you shouldn't care if he was muslim or not). Also all that Joe the plumber nonsense which I would hardly call a moderate...more like american moderate which is still to the right.

And all that crap about his pastor and blah blah blah. The fact is, the president barely has any power. If you want to blame someone, blame yourself for voting for the people in congress. Everyone is to blame.

The right wing is all for big government with the military, defense, and strict laws.

The left wing is all for big government when they make you depend on them for everything.

Both wings spend lots of money one way or another. Reckless spending has nothing to do with left and right, it has to do with unwise politicians.

Find the center ground and stand there. Go to the grey area. Stop dealing in black and white.

Capitocialism.

Hmmm my new creation :)

We are actually almost there,its just the people in congress, for the past few decades, keep spending too much money