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    Clinton, McCain emerge as comeback winners in New Hampshire primary



    WASHINGTON - Democrat Hillary Clinton pulled off an unexpected narrow victory in New Hampshire on Tuesday, dramatically rescuing her bid for the White House in a tense battle with Barack Obama.
    Clinton, who's fighting to become the first woman in the Oval Office, mounted a surprisingly strong showing after bracing for a second defeat following her devastating third-place showing in Iowa.
    Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y. greets a familiar face. THE ASSOCIATED PRESS/Elise Amendola
    Republican John McCain also nabbed a major comeback victory, putting him solidly back in his party's nomination race.
    While Obama, vying to make history as the first black U.S. president, scored big among independents and voters between 18 and 24, Clinton attracted lower-income voters and seniors and did best among voters citing the economy as their top concern.
    But a big factor for Clinton was women voters, who had gone over to Obama in large numbers in Iowa. Nearly half in New Hampshire were once again supporting her, while Obama got only a third.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefster View Post
    If only we had a bright young mind, such as his, in our congress to articulate in such clear, concise terms the problems that socialism has caused here.

    Well, in Germany, socialism has not caused any problems. One of the strongest nations now and probably the only one to hold Europe together. The Germany believe, as I do now, there can be socialism and capitalism in a fiscal responsible way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcvet View Post
    as long as the 2nd amendment sticks around

    Even that won't help any of the problems with Guns. The fact is that to solve the problem with guns we would have to go back in time and prevent them from ever being made. They were made we can't undo that. Changing the 2nd amendment won't stop those who intend to use guns for crimes from using them. They have already shown they are out to break the law. Having Guns illegal would solve nothing as that would just be a 2nd law they would break. Sadly I really don't see any change in any law making a difference. It would just limit the people who have guns for hunting,show,sport have less rights. I'm not a gun person myself never cared to have one never will. But I really don't think the rights of people should be taken away just for the crimes of others. People can use whatever they want if they want to hurt or kill people. You can kill someone with a pillow if you wanted. Should we take those away to? The 2nd amendment is there for those who fallow the law. Those who don't won't care if it's there or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mejohnm View Post
    Well, in Germany, socialism has not caused any problems. One of the strongest nations now and probably the only one to hold Europe together. The Germany believe, as I do now, there can be socialism and capitalism in a fiscal responsible way.
    To me that is a contradiction in terms. I think Thomas Jefferson put it best when he said: "A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have." You would best know because you live there but I simply don't understand how Socialism and Capitalism can long coexist.


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    Well if we make guns illegal that will get them off the street right?

    Just like it has worked for cocaine, crack and all other drugs correct? Do I have that straight?

    To blame guns for killing people is like blaming cars for killing people instead of the drunk drivers or forks for making me fat or it's Hooters fault I like big boobs.

    Stop blaming guns. Start teaching the value of human life again. There is just so much violence today TV shows, Movies, video games, real wars being conducted on TV and News media sensationalizing violence in our daily life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N TX Dave View Post
    Well if we make guns illegal that will get them off the street right?

    Just like it has worked for cocaine, crack and all other drugs correct? Do I have that straight?

    To blame guns for killing people is like blaming cars for killing people instead of the drunk drivers or forks for making me fat or it's Hooters fault I like big boobs.

    Stop blaming guns. Start teaching the value of human life again. There is just so much violence today TV shows, Movies, video games, real wars being conducted on TV and News media sensationalizing violence in our daily life.
    You're making way too much sense!!!

    There are more than enough gun laws on the books. If only they chose to enforce them.

    On Thursday, January 10, 2013, in the White House meeting of President Obama’s Gun Agenda Task Force, Vice President Joe Biden answered that question, telling NRA’s Director of Federal Affairs, James Baker, that the Obama administration didn’t have time to prosecute people for lying on the federal background check form.
    In an article in The Daily Caller (1/18/2013) Biden said, “And to your point, Mr. Bakerregarding the lack of prosecutions on lying on Form 4473s, we simply don’t have the time or manpower to prosecute everybody who lies on a form, that checks a wrong box, that answers a question inaccurately.”

    Try checking a wrong box on your tax return and see what happens!!
    Last edited by AkChief49; 01-28-2013 at 04:19 AM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefster View Post
    To me that is a contradiction in terms. I think Thomas Jefferson put it best when he said: "A government big enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have." You would best know because you live there but I simply don't understand how Socialism and Capitalism can long coexist.
    I truly understand your point. When I came here I was a registered Republican. I did not like it at first how I thought things worked here. Then I experienced it. You know the saying, a happy worker is a motivated worker. Well, it is pretty much the same way except it goes for the people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AkChief49 View Post
    You're making way too much sense!!!

    There are more than enough gun laws on the books. If only they chose to enforce them.

    On Thursday, January 10, 2013, in the White House meeting of President Obama’s Gun Agenda Task Force, Vice President Joe Biden answered that question, telling NRA’s Director of Federal Affairs, James Baker, that the Obama administration didn’t have time to prosecute people for lying on the federal background check form.
    In an article in The Daily Caller (1/18/2013) Biden said, “And to your point, Mr. Bakerregarding the lack of prosecutions on lying on Form 4473s, we simply don’t have the time or manpower to prosecute everybody who lies on a form, that checks a wrong box, that answers a question inaccurately.”

    Try checking a wrong box on your tax return and see what happens!!
    Good point.


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    That was one of his executive orders, to start enforcing the laws. I do not see this one ban bill getting passed. I think it is just a stunt. From my time in the military I think some weapons shouldn't be on the streets, legally or illegally.

    But when references come out like people getting killed by a drunk driver, makes me wonder if that driver really wanted to kill someone as these last shooters did...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mejohnm View Post
    I truly understand your point. When I came here I was a registered Republican. I did not like it at first how I thought things worked here. Then I experienced it. You know the saying, a happy worker is a motivated worker. Well, it is pretty much the same way except it goes for the people.
    Herein lies the crux of the matter. When you overtax the half of the working class population to pay the non-workers, I'm not talking about those who have paid into the system and are now retired or the disabled, then you have a real problem. Sooner or later what happens is that the dwindling "middle class" becomes extinct as generational users and abusers of the "system" become greater and greater. Our government does absolutely nothing to encourage personal independence and, instead, encourages governmental dependency. As Margarette Thatcher was so eloquently quoted in that video posted above: "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."


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