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**hermhater** · 01-08-2008, 11:29 PM

Clinton, McCain emerge as comeback winners in New Hampshire primary

WASHINGTON - Democrat Hillary Clinton pulled off an unexpected narrow victory in New Hampshire on Tuesday, dramatically rescuing her bid for the White House in a tense battle with Barack Obama.
Clinton, who's fighting to become the first woman in the Oval Office, mounted a surprisingly strong showing after bracing for a second defeat following her devastating third-place showing in Iowa.

Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y. greets a familiar face. THE ASSOCIATED PRESS/Elise Amendola

Republican John McCain also nabbed a major comeback victory, putting him solidly back in his party's nomination race.
While Obama, vying to make history as the first black U.S. president, scored big among independents and voters between 18 and 24, Clinton attracted lower-income voters and seniors and did best among voters citing the economy as their top concern.
But a big factor for Clinton was women voters, who had gone over to Obama in large numbers in Iowa. Nearly half in New Hampshire were once again supporting her, while Obama got only a third.

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/080108/w0108115A.html

Crap.

**hermhater** · 02-12-2008, 02:05 AM

Originally Posted by texaschief

all we have to do is stick a straw in the ground in Alaska and we'll have the larget PROVEN oil reserve in the world. Much, MUCH bigger than Saudi Arabia.....

gotta love those Carribu. lol

Gonna have to call Myth Busters on this one guy!

I highly doubt that.

**hermhater** · 02-12-2008, 02:07 AM

Originally Posted by Guru

From the Glenn Beck show on Headline News.....

Now, one of the reasons that I talk about unconventional issues on this program, like wheat prices and bond insurance -- I mean, nobody else is talking about this stuff -- is because I believe it all relates to our security. Unlike a lot of people, I don`t believe there`s a difference between our economic security and our national security. If we can`t buy bullets, if we can`t afford fuel for our jets, then fighting war kind of becomes a moot point, doesn`t it? That`s why the hair on the back of my neck stood up when I heard what Russian president Putin said over the weekend. He said, and I quote, "It is already clear that there is a new arms race being unleashed in the world. It is not our fault. We didn`t start it. But we are forced to retaliate..."

Now, to most people they`ll tell you this is simple propaganda, he`s just talking to his own people. Great. But, if you`re a student of recent history, then you might know the real story is how eerily familiar that sounds, except now it`s not coming out of the mouth of Ronald Reagan. Think about this. The Soviet Union did not collapse because we beat them with their armies, we collapsed them because we hammered them economically. Cheap oil created a mountain of debt for the Russians.

Now, while that meant we saved billions of dollars on oil, we turned that around and put it into our military. Now the tables have completely reversed. Russia is flush with so much oil money that our own national director of intelligence just admitted how worried we are about the, "financial capabilities" due to all of that oil wealth. Meanwhile, we`re the ones buried in debt. Back then it was Russia fighting Islamic radicals in Afghanistan including, what was his name, oh, yeah, Osama bin Laden.

Now we`re the ones spending billions to fight extremists led by Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan. If history is repeating itself, we already know how this story ends. It is up to us. We`ve got to get more Americans to read recent history and rewrite the ending. We have got stop spending billions of dollars that we don`t have. We have got to stop enriching our enemies through oil. And most importantly, the real quick fix is stop the Socialist ideas from gaining credibility.

You know what? Government healthcare, free college tuition and guaranteed wages did not stop the Soviet Union from collapsing, and it`s not going to stop us either, in fact, it will help it along.

Thank God that guy doesn't do any fear mongering!!!

**texaschief** · 02-12-2008, 02:13 AM

Originally Posted by hermhater

Gonna have to call Myth Busters on this one guy!

I highly doubt that.

well, guess it's a good thing we're taking over the middle east then.

**Chiefster** · 02-12-2008, 02:15 AM

Originally Posted by hermhater

Thank God that guy doesn't do any fear mongering!!!

Is it fear mongering to yell "FIRE" in a burning building?

**Guru** · 02-12-2008, 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by hermhater

Thank God that guy doesn't do any fear mongering!!!

Agreed. IT is fear mongering but he brings up SEVERAL valid points. Socialism is my biggest fear for this country.

**texaschief** · 02-12-2008, 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by Chiefster

Is it fear mongering to yell "FIRE" in a burning building?

yes.

**texaschief** · 02-12-2008, 02:17 AM

Originally Posted by Guru

Agreed. IT is fear mongering but he brings up SEVERAL valid points. Socialism is my biggest fear for this country.

mmm, i doubt that will be your biggest fear if Hillary gets elected. that "ism" word would start with a "C".

**Chiefster** · 02-12-2008, 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by texaschief

yes.

Thanks for clearing that up.

**tammietailgator** · 02-12-2008, 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by Guru

From the Glenn Beck show on Headline News.....

Now, one of the reasons that I talk about unconventional issues on this program, like wheat prices and bond insurance -- I mean, nobody else is talking about this stuff -- is because I believe it all relates to our security. Unlike a lot of people, I don`t believe there`s a difference between our economic security and our national security. If we can`t buy bullets, if we can`t afford fuel for our jets, then fighting war kind of becomes a moot point, doesn`t it? That`s why the hair on the back of my neck stood up when I heard what Russian president Putin said over the weekend. He said, and I quote, "It is already clear that there is a new arms race being unleashed in the world. It is not our fault. We didn`t start it. But we are forced to retaliate..."

Now, to most people they`ll tell you this is simple propaganda, he`s just talking to his own people. Great. But, if you`re a student of recent history, then you might know the real story is how eerily familiar that sounds, except now it`s not coming out of the mouth of Ronald Reagan. Think about this. The Soviet Union did not collapse because we beat them with their armies, we collapsed them because we hammered them economically. Cheap oil created a mountain of debt for the Russians.

Now, while that meant we saved billions of dollars on oil, we turned that around and put it into our military. Now the tables have completely reversed. Russia is flush with so much oil money that our own national director of intelligence just admitted how worried we are about the, "financial capabilities" due to all of that oil wealth. Meanwhile, we`re the ones buried in debt. Back then it was Russia fighting Islamic radicals in Afghanistan including, what was his name, oh, yeah, Osama bin Laden.

Now we`re the ones spending billions to fight extremists led by Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan. If history is repeating itself, we already know how this story ends. It is up to us. We`ve got to get more Americans to read recent history and rewrite the ending. We have got stop spending billions of dollars that we don`t have. We have got to stop enriching our enemies through oil. And most importantly, the real quick fix is stop the Socialist ideas from gaining credibility.

You know what? Government healthcare, free college tuition and guaranteed wages did not stop the Soviet Union from collapsing, and it`s not going to stop us either, in fact, it will help it along.

Amen!