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    Clinton, McCain emerge as comeback winners in New Hampshire primary



    WASHINGTON - Democrat Hillary Clinton pulled off an unexpected narrow victory in New Hampshire on Tuesday, dramatically rescuing her bid for the White House in a tense battle with Barack Obama.
    Clinton, who's fighting to become the first woman in the Oval Office, mounted a surprisingly strong showing after bracing for a second defeat following her devastating third-place showing in Iowa.
    Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y. greets a familiar face. THE ASSOCIATED PRESS/Elise Amendola
    Republican John McCain also nabbed a major comeback victory, putting him solidly back in his party's nomination race.
    While Obama, vying to make history as the first black U.S. president, scored big among independents and voters between 18 and 24, Clinton attracted lower-income voters and seniors and did best among voters citing the economy as their top concern.
    But a big factor for Clinton was women voters, who had gone over to Obama in large numbers in Iowa. Nearly half in New Hampshire were once again supporting her, while Obama got only a third.






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    Quote Originally Posted by hermhater View Post
    It looks like Michigan and Florida are gonna try and have another round of votes, because the race for the Dems is too close for a clear winner to be chosen for the Dem nomination.

    The political race to the White House is being taken out of the peoples hands.

    Sad.
    Had those two states followed the rules of the DNC it wouldn't be an issue right now; clearly NOT the fault of the citizens in that state, but it's the way it is none the less. Now, if they want to have a revote those states will have to pay for it themselves; the DNC will not foot the bill.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefster View Post
    Had those two states followed the rules of the DNC it wouldn't be an issue right now; clearly NOT the fault of the citizens in that state, but it's the way it is none the less. Now, if they want to have a revote those states will have to pay for it themselves; the DNC will not foot the bill.
    Yep!

    But remember the people in those states elected the idiots that didn't follow the rules in the first place!

    Florida is a no brainer, but Michigan?

    I thought they had more sense up there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hermhater View Post
    Yep!

    But remember the people in those states elected the idiots that didn't follow the rules in the first place!

    Florida is a no brainer, but Michigan?

    I thought they had more sense up there.
    Agreed, so one could actually make the case that the citizens what they asked for - so to speak.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefster View Post
    Agreed, so one could actually make the case that the citizens what they asked for - so to speak.
    It's a crazy world we live in, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hermhater View Post
    It's a crazy world we live in, eh?
    Yup we should all vote for: None of the above.

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    Obama wins in Wyoming, adds 7 delegates

    By MEAD GRUVER, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 20 minutes ago


    CASPER, Wyo. - Sen. Barack Obama captured the Wyoming Democratic caucuses Saturday, seizing a bit of momentum in the close, hard-fought race with rival Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton for the party's presidential nomination.

    Obama generally has outperformed Clinton in caucuses, which reward organization and voter passion more than do primaries. The Illinois senator has now won 13 caucuses to Clinton's three.


    Obama has also shown strength in the Mountain West, winning Idaho, Utah, Colorado and now Wyoming. The two split Nevada, with Clinton winning the popular vote and Obama more delegates.


    But Clinton threw some effort into Wyoming, perhaps hoping for an upset that would yield few delegates but considerable buzz and momentum. The New York senator campaigned Friday in Cheyenne and Casper.


    Former President Clinton and their daughter, Chelsea, also campaigned this week in the sprawling and lightly populated state.


    Obama campaigned in Casper and Laramie on Friday, but spent part of his time dealing with the fallout from an aide's harsh words about Clinton and suggestions that Obama wouldn't move as quickly to withdraw U.S. forces from Iraq if elected. In Casper, Obama said Clinton had no standing to challenge his position on the war because she had voted to authorize it in 2002.


    Clinton, buoyed by big wins in Ohio and Texas last Tuesday, said she faced an uphill fight in Wyoming. Her campaign also holds out little hope for Tuesday's primary in Mississippi, which has a large black population.


    Obama had 61 percent, or 5,378 votes, to Clinton's 38 percent, or 3,312 votes, with all 23 Wyoming counties reporting.


    Obama won seven delegates and Clinton won five. In the overall race for the nomination, Obama led 1,578-1,468, according to the latest tally by The Associated Press. It will take 2,025 delegates to win the Democratic nomination.


    Obama campaign manager David Plouffe said the Wyoming victory speaks to the candidate's strength in the West, and that Obama is better suited to help down-ticket Democrats even in states that traditionally vote Republican in the general election.


    "I think it's evidence that Senator Obama is going to be able to put more states in play because of his strength with independent voters," Plouffe said.


    Clinton's campaign took heart in their ability to pick up more delegates.


    "We are thrilled with this near-split in delegates and are grateful to the people of Wyoming for their support," said campaign manager Maggie Williams.


    "Although the Obama campaign predicted victory in Wyoming weeks ago, we worked hard to present Senator Clintons vision to the caucus-goers and we thank them for turning out today."


    Both candidates were looking ahead to the bigger prize delegate-rich Pennsylvania on April 22.


    From the first caucuses of the day, it became clear the state's Democrats were showing up in large numbers. In 2004, a mere 675 people statewide took part in the caucuses.


    In Sweetwater County, more than 500 people crowded into a high school auditorium and another 500 were lined up to get inside.


    "I'm worried about where we're going to put them all. But I guess everybody's got the same problem," said Joyce Corcoran, a local party official. "So far we're OK. But man, they keep coming."


    Party officials struggled with how to handle the overflow crowds. The start of the Converse County caucus was delayed due to long lines.


    In Cheyenne, scores of late arrivers were turned away when party officials stopped allowing people to get in line at 11 a.m. EST. A party worker stood at the end of the line with a sign reading, "End of the line. Caucus rules require the voter registration process to be closed at this time."


    State party spokesman Bill Luckett said they were obligated to follow its rules as well as those of the Democratic National Committee regarding caucus procedures.


    "Everybody knew the registration began over an hour before the caucus was called to order. We've done everything we could to accommodate people in the long lines," Luckett said.


    After initially accepting provisional ballots from about 20 people who remained behind at the caucus site, party officials said they and both campaigns had decided not to count those votes. John Millin, state party chair, said doing so would have been unfair to those who had left after being turned away.


    In Casper, home of the state party's headquarters, hundreds were lined up at the site of the Natrona County caucus. The location was a hotel meeting room with a capacity of 500. Some 7,700 registered Democrats live in the county.


    "We'll have to put 'em in the grass after a while," said Bob Warburton, a local party official.


    About 59,000 registered Democrats are eligible to participate in Wyoming's caucuses.


    Only in the last few weeks have the campaigns stepped up their presence in Wyoming, opening offices and calling voters and sending mailers.


    Although a win in Wyoming may not persuade many superdelegates, it will be one more prize for the candidates as they make their case for the nomination.


    Clinton has hinted recently that if she wins the nomination she would consider sharing the ticket with Obama. But in an interview Friday in Wyoming with KTVQ-TV, a CBS affiliate based in Billings, Mont., Obama shied away from that possibility.


    "Well, you know, I think it's premature. You won't see me as a vice presidential candidate you know, I'm running for president," Obama told the television station. "We have won twice as many states as Senator Clinton, and have a higher popular vote, and I think we can maintain our delegate count.


    "What I am really focused on right now, because all that stuff is premature, is winning this nomination and changing the country. I think that's what people here are concerned about."



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    Make this as you will.

    Just more blah, blah, blah.


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    Civil liberties, or personal security?
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