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    Quote Originally Posted by rbedgood View Post
    Jaded a little?
    I wouldn't call it jaded so much, as this seems about as plausible...


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    Who thinks I can reach 17,000 posts before Chiefster?

    Can we get a bet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hermhater View Post
    Who cares if I can reach 17,000 posts before Chiefster?

    Can we get a bet?
    No..
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    Default HA!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hermhater View Post
    Just one more reason, no one should listen to the leader of a church.

    Any church.
    Quote Originally Posted by rbedgood View Post
    Jaded a little?
    Quote Originally Posted by hermhater View Post
    I wouldn't call it jaded so much, as this seems about as plausible...


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    My issue was with the end of your first post...it implies that "every church" has this same issue. That's a pretty blanketing statement, and would seem a bit of a reach in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rbedgood View Post
    My issue was with the end of your first post...it implies that "every church" has this same issue. That's a pretty blanketing statement, and would seem a bit of a reach in my opinion.
    How many of the people in the church that you go to will vote for the same person for president?

    That makes it a political issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hermhater View Post
    How many of the people in the church that you go to will vote for the same person for president?

    That makes it a political issue.
    Ummm, I live in Arizona...in a fairly affluent area. The area votes conservative no matter who the candidate is, but when the candidate is from Arizona, even moreso. The general population in our voting precinct votes about 90% conservative...I wouldn't expect the church population to be much different.

    I understand what you are saying, but as with most statistics, a blanket statement can't be factually made without considering all variables.

    First of all, most churches are neighborhood based, and therefore people from similar demographics will attend a church more often than not. That in itself would lead the majority of any church body to support similar causes, candidates, etc.

    Secondly, many churches tend to draw from certain populations. My church is pretty diverse for the N. Phoenix area...what does that mean, ummmm, we're only about 95% WASPs...considering the surrounding neighborhoods are probably in excess of 95%, we are diverse.

    Finally, I've attended this church every week for nearly 10 years. Our paster has NEVER endorsed any candidate and only once in 10 years has spoken of any issues. And even then he didn't endorse say which issue, (although many of us knew), he simply stated, "this upcoming election has a number of candidates, and issues...some of which have a Biblical answer for where we as Christians should stand...it isn't right for me to tell anyone how to vote, but read your Bible and let God lead you"


    I'm not trying to make anyone go to my church...heck I'm 2500 miles away from most of you, but I am pointing out that not every church is offensive. For every Rev Wright, David Duke, etc. there's a loving, compassionate pastor who just cares about people.
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