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    Default O lineman, or best available at the time?

    What should we do for the draft?

    I have heard Holthus say we probably won't go for a O lineman until the 4th round.

    If Long isn't available for our first rounder, do we get another, or just get the best available at any position?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chief31 View Post
    Just getting a team that wants that player, to trade their draft pick(s) for him. Basically trading down in the draft.

    We take the player that another team was hoping would drop to them, forcing them to deal with us, to get him. "We'll trade you the guy you were hoping to get, for your first and third round picks." Kind of deal.
    Like Cleveland did with Dallas(?) for Quinn last year?

    You're still talking about getting O linemen right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hermhater View Post
    Like Cleveland did with Dallas(?) for Quinn last year?

    You're still talking about getting O linemen right?
    Well, more like San Diego did with Eli Manning a few years back. They picked Eli, who had stated that he didn't want to play for them, then made the Giants, who really wanted Eli, work out a deal for him. I'm not sure what the Chrgers got, aside from the Giants' first round pick, still early in the first round, but I know that the Giants were hoping that San Diego would not bother with drafting Eli, because of what Eli had said, so they could draft him themselves.

    Once the Chargers drafted Eli, the Giants knew that they had to deal with them. Although I believe that the Chargers had already told the Giants that they were going to do that.

    But, the Quinn deal was remotely similar. The Cowboys wound-up with the Browns' first round pick in this years draft, in addition to their second round pick in last years draft. In fact, I believe that they got a third draft pick from them too. But the Cowboys didn't draft Quinn, then deal. They made the deal before they selected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hermhater View Post
    Do we even have the cap room for FA?

    How much is a great O lineman going for?

    Could we get Faneca for the same price we are paying McIntosh? (can't ever remember how to spell his damn name)
    I don't know all the details but from what I have heard, we are in great cap shape right now.
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    I hope we get Mcfadden, which could force J.Jones to give us both his other first round picks!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by hermhater View Post

    Could we get Faneca for the same price we are paying McIntosh? (can't ever remember how to spell his damn name)
    Are you serious? Faneca will get top $ in free agency.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach View Post
    Are you serious? Faneca will get top $ in free agency.

    What is top money for an O lineman?
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    O lineman 1st round no matter what.

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    We have LJ, I dont know what else more to say. It is time to give LJ a line like we gave holmes since we are rebuilding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hermhater View Post
    What is top money for an O lineman?
    NFL Deals are very convaluted to say the least, the signing bonus/base salary computations make a cap number which is the really relevant number. So using that number the top 5 Tackles in 2007 had cap numbers from $7.1 to $8.8 Million...the top 5 guards had numbers from $5.8 to $6.68 Million...Faneca was barely in this group, figure he'll get a contract for around 4 years and $27M, with $8-10 Million up front as a signing bonus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rbedgood View Post
    NFL Deals are very convaluted to say the least, the signing bonus/base salary computations make a cap number which is the really relevant number. So using that number the top 5 Tackles in 2007 had cap numbers from $7.1 to $8.8 Million...the top 5 guards had numbers from $5.8 to $6.68 Million...Faneca was barely in this group, figure he'll get a contract for around 4 years and $27M, with $8-10 Million up front as a signing bonus.
    So we paid top money for McIntosh?

    That was my original thought.

    How did that work out, whoever I was asking?

    There are so many alter ego's running amok on this site it's hard to remember.
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