Hardcore player evaluation.

[texaschief]

How bout a little group fun?

If this team is REALLY gonna take a couple years and "major reconstructive surgery" over that span to become a contender again, who should be on and stay on this team? Who will be too old when we are good? Who could we trade now to bring more draft picks?

Here's some fun to get started that will surely get some feathers ruffled.

Trade Tony Gonzales: He's been the ultimate Chief and it's a shame Peterson couldn't get him a ring. The best way he can do that now is to trade him to a contender for a #1 pick or a young, good player.

Trade Jared Allen: Negotiate a sign and trade with Allen. Tell him to list 10 teams he would accept a trade to and get the best possible bounty you can for arguably the best pass rusher in league. Perhaps a first rounder and more.

Trade Larry Johnson: Get ANYTHING you can for him. Huge contract with big questions after an injury laden 2007. This one may be best to move next season.

I think those 3 players, the best the Chiefs have to offer in the prime of their careers would bring huge bounty to help with the rebuilding. Bringing in a bunch of first rounders and more young players may require just one more "rebuilding year.

So, who else should stay and who else should go?

[hermhater]

Or, we never had a QB knocked unconscious for 10 minutes this year. Bowe. Herm was never photographed while drooling. Jared Allen. Not once did they not arrive at the stadium to play. Tony Gonzalez. They never tried a cheerleader out at left tackle. Count your blessings fellas.

Good stuff man!

[Canada]

That's right....and nobody compared to Shannon Sharpe when he played either right?....oh wait....i remember some guy wearing red making waves as Sharpe was in his twilight.

And it just happened that he surpassed him this year while 20 other TE that were compared to him have been totally forgotten. hmmmm...

[texaschief]

'Bout the only thing I have said is, mainly, how the O-line stunk it up, and they did.

I hate to break it to ya but the head coach is bad, very bad, and as far as living in the past goes: the season just ended last month; people are still frustrated. The Coach saying things right after the last game of this miserable season like: "Get over it" didn't exactly help fill everyone with bright hopes of optimistic future.

It had to be said. Chiefs fans are acting like they are the worst team in the NFL and are above losing....there are 4 teams worse than us in the NFL this year. 3 of which have more recently been to a conference title game than has Kansas City.

It's pathetic hearing all this crying about the head coach. He's the guy. GET OVER IT.

[Canada]

It had to be said. Chiefs fans are acting like they are the worst team in the NFL and are above losing....there are 4 teams worse than us in the NFL this year. 3 of which have more recently been to a conference title game than has Kansas City.

It's pathetic hearing all this crying about the head coach. He's the guy. GET OVER IT.

That is quite the bright side. "The Guy" put us to 4-12. Yay, I am so glad he is here. Optimistic enough for ya!!

[texaschief]

And it just happened that he surpassed him this year while 20 other TE that were compared to him have been totally forgotten. hmmmm...

really? 20? Please, list those players who were compared to Sharpe's athletic ability and skill level.

[Canada]

really? 20? Please, list those players who were compared to Sharpe's athletic ability and skill level.

do you truly believe that it never happened? No one besides Tony was ever compared to Sharpe?? Get your head outta your *** man.

[prough91]

It had to be said. Chiefs fans are acting like they are the worst team in the NFL and are above losing....there are 4 teams worse than us in the NFL this year. 3 of which have more recently been to a conference title game than has Kansas City.

It's pathetic hearing all this crying about the head coach. He's the guy. GET OVER IT.

Hear that guys? There were only 27 teams that were better than us. Not too shabby. What's the conference title games have to do with anything?

[Chiefster]

That is quite the bright side. "The Guy" put us to 4-12. Yay, I am so glad he is here. Optimistic enough for ya!!

[texaschief]

That is quite the bright side. "The Guy" put us to 4-12. Yay, I am so glad he is here. Optimistic enough for ya!!

Dude, i get that you don't like him. Everyone here but me agrees with you. But does it have to be brought up in EVERY............SINGLE...............THREAD?

Don't you have anything else you'd like to talk about besides your animosity toward Herm?

BTW, i didn't call you a pessimist because you disagreed with my idea of trading TG, LJ and JA.

[rbedgood]

again, remind me to bring this thread back in 8 years. honestly, y'all don't see the same skill level in any of those TE's as you see in Gonzo?

take off the rose colored lenses ppl.

Tex,

You usually demonstrate a really clear knowledge and understanding of the game...please read my post again. I wasn't saying that some of the other guys on that list didn't compare to Tony "this year" as receivers. I did say that none of them are even "decent blockers" except for Witten who is excellent. Witten until this year has been largely a possession receiver who wasn't a threat in the red zone. He had one good year. Comparing him to a legend is hardly fair. Most of the other guys have similar flaws.

Tony Gonzalez isn't a spring chicken any longer...but he probably has 3-4 really good years left. I wouldn't say 8, and I'm not sure who did....but 3-4 years of him roaming the middle with Bowe on the outside and LJ/Kolby Smith in the backfield gives the Chiefs hope...IMO