Hardcore player evaluation.

[texaschief]

How bout a little group fun?

If this team is REALLY gonna take a couple years and "major reconstructive surgery" over that span to become a contender again, who should be on and stay on this team? Who will be too old when we are good? Who could we trade now to bring more draft picks?

Here's some fun to get started that will surely get some feathers ruffled.

Trade Tony Gonzales: He's been the ultimate Chief and it's a shame Peterson couldn't get him a ring. The best way he can do that now is to trade him to a contender for a #1 pick or a young, good player.

Trade Jared Allen: Negotiate a sign and trade with Allen. Tell him to list 10 teams he would accept a trade to and get the best possible bounty you can for arguably the best pass rusher in league. Perhaps a first rounder and more.

Trade Larry Johnson: Get ANYTHING you can for him. Huge contract with big questions after an injury laden 2007. This one may be best to move next season.

I think those 3 players, the best the Chiefs have to offer in the prime of their careers would bring huge bounty to help with the rebuilding. Bringing in a bunch of first rounders and more young players may require just one more "rebuilding year.

So, who else should stay and who else should go?

[texaschief]

do you truly believe that it never happened? No one besides Tony was ever compared to Sharpe?? Get your head outta your *** man.

still waiting for those names bud.

[Chiefster]

It had to be said. Chiefs fans are acting like they are the worst team in the NFL and are above losing....there are 4 teams worse than us in the NFL this year. 3 of which have more recently been to a conference title game than has Kansas City.

It's pathetic hearing all this crying about the head coach. He's the guy. GET OVER IT.

You're right, I can't imagine why we aren't all just bubling over with joy right now. :rolleyes:

[Canada]

still waiting for those names bud.

Yeah, lemme review some 15 year old game tape and then quote some announcers and then look through some 15 years old newspapers and find them for you. The point is a lot of people were compared to Sharpe (kinda like you are doing with a bunch of TE and Tony) and only one of them ever measured up to Sharpe. I can't make it any simpler for you.

[texaschief]

Tex,

You usually demonstrate a really clear knowledge and understanding of the game...please read my post again. I wasn't saying that some of the other guys on that list didn't compare to Tony "this year" as receivers. I did say that none of them are even "decent blockers" except for Witten who is excellent. Witten until this year has been largely a possession receiver who wasn't a threat in the red zone. He had one good year. Comparing him to a legend is hardly fair. Most of the other guys have similar flaws.

Tony Gonzalez isn't a spring chicken any longer...but he probably has 3-4 really good years left. I wouldn't say 8, and I'm not sure who did....but 3-4 years of him roaming the middle with Bowe on the outside and LJ/Kolby Smith in the backfield gives the Chiefs hope...IMO

How often have you watched Shockey or Winslow? Both those guys are beasts on the line. They were dominant in Miami and if they couldn't block, why were they drafted so high?

....and from a 49er fan, i won't push Vernon Davis too hard. I'm sure you've seen him much more than i have, but from the 6 or so 49er games that i've seen him play in, he impressed me. I'm sure the 49ers wouldn't want him going anywhere either.

[prough91]

Dude, i get that you don't like him. Everyone here but me agrees with you. But does it have to be brought up in EVERY............SINGLE...............THREAD?

Don't you have anything else you'd like to talk about besides your animosity toward Herm?

BTW, i didn't call you a pessimist because you disagreed with my idea of trading TG, LJ and JA.

Dude, it's a cycle. First, we talk about how much we hate Herm. I actually don't hate him that bad. He's just fun to make fun of. I hate Carl a lot worse. Second, we make fun of H-squared's height. Then, we talk about draft picks for a while. After that, we talk about who's going to get hired as OC. Well, now we'll probably change that into how our new OC will do. As we round the corner, we make fun of canada and his drinking problem. H-squared posts some youtube videos or parrots, and then we're back on how much we hate Herm. It's just a cycle. By the way, I heard www.welovehermandheisthecureforallourills.com is looking for a guest writer. Check it out.

And THAT is number 1000.

[Chiefster]

Look I think the dead horse has been beaten enough; lets agree to disagree.

There are positives about our team I'm sure; there just isn't a whole lot of light being shed on what few there are is all.

[Canada]

How often have you watched Shockey or Winslow? Both those guys are beasts on the line. They were dominant in Miami and if they couldn't block, why were they drafted so high?

....and from a 49er fan, i won't push Vernon Davis too hard. I'm sure you've seen him much more than i have, but from the 6 or so 49er games that i've seen him play in, he impressed me. I'm sure the 49ers wouldn't want him going anywhere either.

No, you have it all wrong Texas. He is good so he should be traded so they can get a good player!!

[hermhater]

If it takes the friggin' parrot to end this uselessness I will do it!

Don't make me use the parrot!

[texaschief]

Yeah, lemme review some 15 year old game tape and then quote some announcers and then look through some 15 years old newspapers and find them for you. The point is a lot of people were compared to Sharpe (kinda like you are doing with a bunch of TE and Tony) and only one of them ever measured up to Sharpe. I can't make it any simpler for you.

Just because you say it dosen't make it true. Back up at least one thing you say.

I just think you blurt out sh!t without paying any attention to what you are saying.

Does this statement only apply to me?

[Chiefster]

Dude, it's a cycle. First, we talk about how much we hate Herm. I actually don't hate him that bad. He's just fun to make fun of. I hate Carl a lot worse. Second, we make fun of H-squared's height. Then, we talk about draft picks for a while. After that, we talk about who's going to get hired as OC. Well, now we'll probably change that into how our new OC will do. As we round the corner, we make fun of canada and his drinking problem. H-squared posts some youtube videos or parrots, and then we're back on how much we hate Herm. It's just a cycle. By the way, I heard www.welovehermandheisthecureforallourills.com is looking for a guest writer. Check it out.

And THAT is number 1000.

Eggsactly, except you left out the part where we talk about my need for that little blue pill.