Page 5 of 7 FirstFirst 1234567 LastLast
Results 41 to 50 of 66

Thread: Chiefs Begin Cuts

  1. #1
    Member Since
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    5

    Default Chiefs Begin Cuts

    When the season ended Chiefs head coach Herm Edwards notified several of his players they were not in the plans for 2008. We’ve speculated on those names this offseason and it appears some of those cuts are already taking place.
    The Chiefs released offensive guard John Welbourn Thursday, a move that will save the team $2 million in cap space. Welbourn, who battled a pair of suspensions the last two years, struggled last season after a move from tackle to guard.

    Welbourn’s release comes as no surprise because the Chiefs are looking to fill their offensive line holes by pursuing several free agent linemen. Who they sign remains to be seen, but with Kyle Turley announcing his retirement months ago, and the fact center Casey Wiegmann won’t return next year, there’s definitely a need.

    The Chiefs know they can’t rely solely on the NFL Draft to fix the offensive line. Two weeks ago Vice President of Player Personnel Bill Kuharich hinted on a national radio show that the team would attempt to address their needs up front via free agency.

    A couple of players to watch are Indianapolis Colts guard Ryan Lilja and Pittsburgh Steelers tackle Max Starks. Both fit the mold of ascending players at 26 years of age.

    On the other side of the ball, veteran cornerback Ty Law is expected to be released shortly. Law had his moments as a Chief (just ask Peyton Manning), but hit a wall midway through last season.

    Law’s 2008 cap number was set at $9.05 million. If he’s cut prior to June 1st the Chiefs will save almost $6 million against the cap this year.

    Who his replacement will be is a huge question mark, because the best free agent corners available will ask for huge dollars. Seattle’s Marcus Trufant and the Patriots Asante Samuel will both attempt to breach the $85 million barrier. The Chiefs may have to go after some second-tier players - perhaps Nnamdi Asomugha (Oakland) or Drayton Florence (San Diego).

    Chiefs News:

    DE Jared Allen - It appears the Chiefs will not use the exclusive franchise tag on Allen, which would restrict his ability to negotiate a long term contract with another team. The Chiefs can then match any offer, and in the event they should decline, will receive 2008 and 2009 first-round picks from the team that signs him. To our knowledge there have been no significant contract talks between Allen’s agent, Ken Harris, and KC’s front office.

    CB Benny Sapp - According to our sources its unlikely the Chiefs will retain one of their top backup corners from a year ago. A one-year deal would make sense, but the team appears to have hit a wall with Sapp. Part of the problem was his inability to stay healthy.

    LB Keyaron Fox - The fifth-year linebacker told Warpaint Illustrated he plans to test the open market in search of an opportunity to become a starter. Fox would like to remain with the Chiefs, but as an unrestricted free agent wants to explore every option. It’s doubtful he’ll return to Kansas City in 2008.

    P Dustin Colquitt - He has yet to receive a new contract offer. Colquitt is looking for a long-term deal, but is expecting the Chiefs will tender him a one-year deal as a precursor to a long-term contract that would be worked out later in the year.

  2. #41
    Member Since
    Aug 2007
    Location
    South Carolina
    Posts
    2,152

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefster View Post
    Yep; better circulation and don't have to stand as close to the furnace. :p


    "Everybody underestimates the kick in the groin." - Bas Rutten

  3. #42
    Member Since
    Aug 2007
    Location
    South Carolina
    Posts
    2,152

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Canada View Post
    Without a good defense around them? You give em no safety help and they will get burned all day long. I agree that Law and Surtain weren't the greatest but they were good. Its just that time now.
    Compare Law and Surtain to the other CBs in the AFC west for their duration with the Chiefs(Bailey, Bly, Jammer, Cromartie, Asomua, Washington). Okay, include all of the secondaries. I think our line and linebackers deserve most of the credit for our defensive success. IMO, Law was average, yes he did show up every once in awhile but for the most part was nothing special. I can't stand Surtain. It's very frustrating to watch him play.


    "Everybody underestimates the kick in the groin." - Bas Rutten

  4. #43
    Member Since
    May 2006
    Location
    Illinois
    Posts
    9,152

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by royalswin100games View Post
    Younger corners that have legs don't get burned as much.
    I missed all of these "burns" or something. The rest of our defense must have been so incredibly dominant that they were able to cover for a pair of bad CBs. But, other than J.A, and D.J., who was it?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkHillbilly View Post
    The bottom line is that they were both below average this past season. I agree that it is just that time. I am tired of the Chiefs signing aging veterans!!! This year we will try to get young again but the question as always is what percentage of the draftees will make it to the 53 man roster or even stay in the organization. While I agree that having a bunch of draft picks gives you an oppurtunity to find a diamond in the rough, most of the time those real late guys will never contribute in the NFL so I'm not sure what those picks actually do to help an NFL team. I'm a fan of trading some of those if you can move up or find someone in free agency.
    I wouldn't say that either was below average. If they were below average, then the Chiefs would not have been so good in the red-zone, and on third down. (Statistically.)

    I do agree that we need to work hard at replacing them, but I didn't see them as being even below average. Just not up to the level of pay that they got.

  5. #44
    Member Since
    Sep 2007
    Location
    RIGHT NEXT TO ARROWHEAD!
    Posts
    18,752

    Default

    I recorded most of the games we lost this year, I could send you some copies chief31, and you can watch them get burned all over again!

    I think I even have Law covering the pylon with no one within 30 YARDS of him!
    http://arrowheadjunkies.com/pictures/PhotoShop/sig_pics/NFL_Players/kansas_city_chiefs/tyson.jackson/062009/tyson.jackson.500.png

  6. #45
    Member Since
    May 2006
    Location
    Illinois
    Posts
    9,152

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by hermhater View Post
    I recorded most of the games we lost this year, I could send you some copies chief31, and you can watch them get burned all over again!

    I think I even have Law covering the pylon with no one within 30 YARDS of him!
    How about if you get me some Falcons games and I will show you just as many plays where D. Hall looked stupid. Everyone makes a mistake here and there. But if he/they had been even below average, how is it that so many teams struggled to move the ball on that defense?

  7. #46
    Member Since
    Aug 2007
    Location
    South Carolina
    Posts
    2,152

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by chief31 View Post
    How about if you get me some Falcons games and I will show you just as many plays where D. Hall looked stupid. Everyone makes a mistake here and there. But if he/they had been even below average, how is it that so many teams struggled to move the ball on that defense?
    You're absolutely right. Too bad Surtain has more heres and theres.



    "Everybody underestimates the kick in the groin." - Bas Rutten

  8. #47
    Member Since
    Sep 2005
    Location
    SE Kansas
    Posts
    31,643

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by royalswin100games View Post
    You're absolutely right. Too bad Surtain has more heres and theres.




    Nice point!

  9. #48
    Member Since
    May 2006
    Location
    Illinois
    Posts
    9,152

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by royalswin100games View Post
    You're absolutely right. Too bad Surtain has more heres and theres.


    Fine. They were horrible. But can anyone tell me how our defense was so highly ranked with those two bumbling idiots at CB? Especially considering all of the mistakes that we all saw the two young Safties making?


    Anyone?

    I have presented this question a few times, and it seems that that question has been dodged.

  10. #49
    Member Since
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Read the name dumbass!!
    Posts
    13,363

    Default

    :undwech:Missed me again sucka!!
    The only reason a beer sweats around Canada is because he's decided it will be the next beer he drinks.

  11. #50
    Member Since
    Aug 2007
    Location
    South Carolina
    Posts
    2,152

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by chief31 View Post
    Fine. They were horrible. But can anyone tell me how our defense was so highly ranked with those two bumbling idiots at CB? Especially considering all of the mistakes that we all saw the two young Safties making?


    Anyone?

    I have presented this question a few times, and it seems that that question has been dodged.
    Allright, Surtain and Law have experience playing the position and should know what they need to get done. That being said, neither one of them have the athletic ability to play that position at the same level as other younger corners in the league. Law did okay IMO. Surtain got burnt one too many times. You should agree, they are both geriatric. I believe that's why we played those younger safties so much. I also believe the rest of our defense did an outstanding job at their respective positions last season. That's why I think our D was so highly ranked.


    "Everybody underestimates the kick in the groin." - Bas Rutten

Page 5 of 7 FirstFirst 1234567 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •