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    Oakland paying j.russel $20 mil bonus? and hall?

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    Al Davis likes to talk about the Raiders' commitment to excellence. This offseason, the world is wondering if he's committed to debt.
    The pending DeAngelo Hall trade, which won't be completed until Hall agrees to an Asante Samuel-like contract, is Davis' latest venture into a wild spending spree. He gave safety Gibril Wilson a six-year, $39 million contract. Defensive tackle Tommy Kelly received a seven-year, $52.5 million deal. Offensive tackle Kwame Harris moved across the bay from the 49ers for a three-year, $14 million deal. Wide receiver Javon Walker caught a six-year, $55 million pass.

    With quarterback JaMarcus Russell receiving a $19.9 million option bonus this year, the Raiders' payroll has soared to $137 million -- $21 million over the salary cap -- and Davis isn't done yet. His plan is to keep CB Nnamdi Asomugha, whose franchise tag will count $9.465 million against the cap. Davis also plans to keep the No. 4 pick in the draft, which will net a contract worth between $5 million and $9 million a year. Davis, impatient about the team's football fortunes (only 19 victories over the past five seasons), is going against the financial bottom line to improve the team's football bottom line.
    In 2005, he tried to give the franchise a jolt by trading for wide receiver Randy Moss and making free-agent moves such as the signings of RB LaMont Jordan, DE Derrick Burgess and others. It didn't work, and Moss became so disinterested in football in Oakland that he was traded to New England for the fourth-round pick.
    Those moves seem modest compared to 2008, and the interesting part about it is that Davis is the one pulling the trigger. After a disappointing 4-12 season, Davis removed head coach Lane Kiffin from the personnel decision-making process. It's Davis himself working the deals with the help of selected front-office employees.
    Unlike the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and other cost-conscious teams, Davis isn't looking for bargains. He didn't blink about coughing up $107.5 million in contracts for Kelly, coming off ACL surgery, and Walker, who is coming off a knee injury that limited him to eight games in Denver last season. Last weekend, Davis instructed negotiators within the organization to make the Hall deal a priority after agreeing to trade terms with the Falcons.
    Recently, Davis sold non-voting shares in the Raiders, which gave him the money to go on this spending spree and invest in so many players.

    Still, the timing of these moves is unusual because of the uncertainty of the head coaching position. Kiffin comes to work each day not knowing for sure if he's going to be the head coach by the start of the 2008 season.
    Reports surfaced in January that Kiffin was asked to resign. He didn't, and even though the Raiders have denied the resignation story, numerous sources have backed up the tenuous relationship between the coach and owner. One sign of the discord was Davis' hiring of James Lofton as wide receivers coach without getting Kiffin's blessing.
    Of course, Davis has always believed in getting the best players to win, and he's showing an aggressiveness reminiscent of the Al Davis of the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s.
    Davis believes in man-to-man cornerback play. Putting Hall at cornerback with Asomugha gives the Raiders their best man-to-man cornerback tandem since Charles Woodson and Eric Allen. In many ways, Davis is flashing back to the Mike Haynes-Lester Hayes days in making this trade. It probably means former first-round choice Fabian Washington will be traded.
    Davis believes in big-play passing ability. With strong-armed Russell at quarterback, the Raiders added some deep speed with Walker and Drew Carter, who signed a one-year deal for around $2 million. Ronald Curry will be the possession receiver.
    Kelly received his big payday to make the conversion from defensive end to defensive tackle, replacing the retiring Warren Sapp. Davis is hoping Kelly's athletic ability will replace the inside pass rush lost with Sapp's departure.

    The Wilson signing was one of the most debatable. The Raiders' defensive schemes require their safeties to play more man coverage. Two years ago, the Raiders drafted Michael Huff in the first round because of his coverage ability at safety, but he has been up and down. Safety is a tough job with the Raiders, but Davis didn't mind making Wilson the third highest paid safety in football.
    Not everything has gone right for the Raiders. While the team was wrapping up the Kelly contract, it lost defensive end Chris Clemons, an eight-sack pass-rusher on the rise. He signed for less than $3 million a year with the Eagles.
    Once the Hall trade is completed, it creates problems in trying to keep Asomugha. He's on the one-year franchise tender, and he's not going to sign for much less than the six-year, $57 million deal given to Samuel. To keep him as a franchise player next year, the price goes to $11.35 million.
    But Davis isn't thinking about the green. He's thinking about the silver and black. He's just trying to win, baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayvern View Post
    Actually I can, I just can't tell you when they are going to win, nor can I tell you all the numbers on the same day.

    No one knows who is playing on the team, but we certainly know who is not!
    Yeah, the guys who took us to 4-12. We are going to suck no matter what happens!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canada View Post
    It never ceases to amaze me...the amount of optimism that people have about our team. Possibly the psychic abilities considering no one even know who will be playing on the team next season. Can you tell me the winning lottery numbers too?
    Another 10 or 15 years of this and your optimism may subside a bit. That's what my experience has been. Been watchin the same s*** for too many years!! It just seems like some of the teams that sucked for soooo long have either been to the Superbowl or won it. We on the other hand continue to get bounced when we are lucky enough to make the playoffs! One constant for the last 20 years is Peterson!! Think it's time for a change??
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    I agree hall is a great player , all I am saying is show my one of the Top Tier recievers he has shut down one on one ?

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    Hall can play well against big, physical receivers (ala Terrell Owens)...he has trouble against the small, quick guys (ala Chris Chambers, Brandon Stokely, or Brandon Marshall)...oh wait, are those guys all in his new division.

    Hall is a very good corner, however he IS NOT worth the $70 million he was signed for...7 years, and around $50 million would've been good value for the salary cap. My family and friends that are Raiders fans (I pity the fools...) are not pleased!
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    Quote Originally Posted by YZILLA View Post
    I agree hall is a great player , all I am saying is show my one of the Top Tier recievers he has shut down one on one ?
    He shuts down top tier receivers as weel as ANY corner in the league. Ask TO. Hall put him on his *** a few times!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkHillbilly View Post
    Another 10 or 15 years of this and your optimism may subside a bit. That's what my experience has been. Been watchin the same **** for too many years!! It just seems like some of the teams that sucked for soooo long have either been to the Superbowl or won it. We on the other hand continue to get bounced when we are lucky enough to make the playoffs! One constant for the last 20 years is Peterson!! Think it's time for a change??
    No it won't. If you know they suck then why watch?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canada View Post
    No it won't. If you know they suck then why watch?
    Don't start with the whole "fan" thing!! I've been watching the Chiefs for 36 years now! My point was I used to be as optimistic as you but since they haven't made it to the Superbowl in my lifetime and haven't been to the AFC Championship very often, I would like to see a change in the way things are done! You can't say they have done that!! After about 10 years of Peterson not getting the job done, something should have changed. ALL of the other teams in football and all other sports sure do!!

    I know you don't agree but it sucks to know your team is going to have a bad season!! And yes, I did know last season was going to suck and yes, this season is going to be a long one as well. Doesn't mean I'm going to watch any less or become any less of a fan but I am tired of watching teams that have been worse than us for longer, pass us by and make their teams better and get to and win Superbowls!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkHillbilly View Post
    Don't start with the whole "fan" thing!! I've been watching the Chiefs for 36 years now! My point was I used to be as optimistic as you but since they haven't made it to the Superbowl in my lifetime and haven't been to the AFC Championship very often, I would like to see a change in the way things are done! You can't say they have done that!! After about 10 years of Peterson not getting the job done, something should have changed. ALL of the other teams in football and all other sports sure do!!

    I know you don't agree but it sucks to know your team is going to have a bad season!! And yes, I did know last season was going to suck and yes, this season is going to be a long one as well. Doesn't mean I'm going to watch any less or become any less of a fan but I am tired of watching teams that have been worse than us for longer, pass us by and make their teams better and get to and win Superbowls!!!
    I did not question you "fandom" I just asked why you watch. I hear a ton of people who piss and moan about the team no matter what they do. I don't understand why they watch. I am not saying anyone is less of a fan, I just don't understand the logic. I like watching sports becase you don't KNOW until the season is over, until then we are all guessing what is gonna happen. How many giants fans had this conversation last season?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canada View Post
    I did not question you "fandom" I just asked why you watch. I hear a ton of people who piss and moan about the team no matter what they do. I don't understand why they watch. I am not saying anyone is less of a fan, I just don't understand the logic. I like watching sports becase you don't KNOW until the season is over, until then we are all guessing what is gonna happen. How many giants fans had this conversation last season?
    You know as well as I that as a fan of a certain team, you have some idea of what your team is going to be like in a given season. IMO, this is what fans do. They wonder why they aren't better each year. If you don't win the Big One that is!! How many years is a fan of a team that hasn't been to the Superbowl or conference championship in forever suppose to sit idley by and say nothing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbedgood View Post
    Hall can play well against big, physical receivers (ala Terrell Owens)...he has trouble against the small, quick guys (ala Chris Chambers, Brandon Stokely, or Brandon Marshall)...oh wait, are those guys all in his new division.

    Hall is a very good corner, however he IS NOT worth the $70 million he was signed for...7 years, and around $50 million would've been good value for the salary cap. My family and friends that are Raiders fans (I pity the fools...) are not pleased!
    Chambers is pretty big isn't he?


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