Originally Posted by
texaschief
Really? You don't see ANY improvement on this team?
Kinda like losing a thousand dollars, but rejoicing because you recovered half of it. No, I don't see that as improvement. Because you are still down five-hundred.
Are you really THAT blinded by the 4-12 record? We all know the offense sucked which primarily led to that 4-12 record. But we also lost our RB and had horrible QB play to go along with a poor line. They also didn't have a #1 reciever the ENTIRE season.
Horrible o-line, no running game, poor offensive coordinator, and no no.1 WR, but go ahead and tell us how the QB should have done better with that.
Your Herm hating has blinded you if you think this team AS IS will be 4-12 again next season.
No chance. AS-IS, this team would likely get us an even better draft pick next season. You thought the o-line was bad last year, AS-IS we are down three of the better ones from that squad.
Your attitude toward the coach and the impatience most exude on this site is what is wrong with the modern day NFL fan. People saw what Jimmy Johnson did in 4 years and what John Gruden did in 1 year in Tampa and now if their team isn't in the Super Bowl after 2 years of a coaching change, they're ready for another one. It's just flawed thinking.
Like blindly supporting a proven loser? Somehow, you seem unable to blame Herm for his career of losing. Making excuses for every poor detail of his career, while shouting-out every positive. Where's the flawed thinking?
When coaches step in and immediately show improvement, it's usually because their predecessor has set them up with a solid roster thru previous drafts. (Unless it is Herm taking over. Then it just pure genious coaching.)
Now, the Chiefs right now, have the same opportunity to come close to what JJ did in Dallas by trading LJ. JJ brought back 6 picks for Herschell Walker. The Chiefs could bring back at least 3 for Johnson if they decided to trade him.(Good luck.) Johnson built that team thru the draft (which is what Herm is doing) but he was able to draft many more players at one time because of the trade.
It's just going to take longer to do a complete rebuild like the one the Chiefs are trying to do now.
The 2005 defense had to be rebuilt.
DL:Allen, Sims, Browning, Dalton, Hicks
LB: DJ, Barber, Mitchell, Bell
DB: Surtain, McCleon, Wesley, Knight
3 starters remain. You POSSIBLY could make a case for keeping Mitchell, but he was never good here and he wasn't good enough to keep his job in NY.
The man opted for another team in free-agency, and somehow you get to spin in your favor by saying he wasn't good enough. Lol. Amazing. He was plenty good here too. But it is difficult to shine with an otherwise poor defense.
Surtain is old and should be replaced this year. If Vermeil/Peterson had drafted better, Herm/Peterson could've spent a little more time/money/picks helping that offense which was left in shambles.
Now, the 2005 offense:
OL: Roaf, Shields, Waters, Wiegman, Bober/Sampson
RB: LJ, Richardson
TE: Gonzo
WR: Kennison, Parker, Horn, Boerigter
QB: Trent Green
Call me crazy, but trying to replace an injured Pro Bowl QB, 2 hall of fame OLinemen and your entire WR corp while trying to replace a center and also find a permanant RT doesn't happen over a one year or even a two year span while your trying to replace at least 9 starters on a defense that ranked dead last for most of the decade.
Again, perhaps if Vermiel/Peterson hadn't drafted so poorly this decade, there would've been sufficient depth to float the offense this past season. But there wasn't.
14 total draft picks is hardly enough to replace 9 defensive starters and 8 offensive starters. If this organization from Hunt to Herm is committed to building thru the draft, it's going to take more than 2 years. Before the process is complete, i'm sure it will be closer to the 4-5 year side.
The biggest thing you should look at right now though, is the fact that we're probably more than 75% finished rebuilding. Really? Show me.
We need at least:
1 CB
2 OL
1 QB
1 WR
1 LB
That's 6 of 22 starting positions that we need to fill. That's AT LEAST MORE THAN 25%. But let's not forget that Herm emptied our K, and KR spots too. That's not a whole lot. This team isn't THAT far off. At least 5 of those needs should be filled this draft. Out of 10 picks, we should get AT LEAST 5 solid players.
The big glaring problem right now is obviously offense, but the offense will never show improvement without a solid Oline or a stable QB to lead them. Right now, the Chiefs have neither. Oh, here it is. I just knew you were going to show what a terrible situation our QB had, then rag on him later. This draft is kinda going to be like "the Chicken or the egg?" Do we go and get the solid franchise QB to lead to team or do we go get the Olineman he's going to need to be protected?
Either way, the Chiefs aren't going to show much improvement this year without both.
It all comes down to Brodie freakin Croyle.
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