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    This mightbe a repost but i got if off another board.
    Posted by Mike Florio on April 20, 2008, 8:47 a.m.
    We received a text message and a phone call late Saturday/early Sunday from a league source who shared with us a curious development regarding the Minnesota Vikings’ ongoing efforts to acquire Kansas City Chiefs defensive end Jared Allen.

    Per the source, the Vikings are “likely” to sign Allen to an offer sheet after next weekend’s draft, if a “fair” trade can’t be worked out before then.

    The move meshes with the idea that came us to like an acorn to a blind squirrel on Saturday. With the Chiefs reportedly wanting a first-round pick and a second-round pick for Allen, why not simply nab Allen with a poison-pilled offer sheet and foist on the Chiefs the Vikings’ first-round picks in 2009 and 2010?

    The fact that the Vikes apparenty plan to pursue this tactic is a strong indication that Allen’s visit to the Twin Cities has resulted in an agreement between the player and the Purple regarding the money that will be paid to the NFL’s sack leader in 2008.

    But there’s a wild card in this scenario. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are reportedly interested in Allen, and could be squeezed into besting the Vikings’ pre-draft trade offer if the Bucs know that Allen would otherwise be poised to sign a post-draft offer sheet in Minnesota.

    Then again, if Allen has made up his mind that he wants to play in the land of 10,000 lakes (but hopefully not 0.10 percent BAC), the Bucs will be out of the picture, and the question will be whether the Vikings get him before the draft, or after it.

    A couple of readers have asked us whether the Vikings could sign Allen to an offer sheet right now, since it’s less than seven days before the first day of the draft. But even though a team with a franchise player has up to seven days to decide whether to match an offer sheet that he signs, the team can also decide before the seven days expire to not match it. In this case, doing so would give the Chiefs the Vikings’ first-round picks in 2008 and 2009.

    And since the Chiefs would surely prefer to get extra draft picks for Allen right now (especially since G.M. Carl Peterson might not be around to use picks in 2009 and/or 2010), it’ll be critical for the Vikings to dust off the poison pill, if they want to be sure to acquire Allen. Otherwise, the Vikes will have merely negotiated on the Chiefs’ behalf Allen’s long-term contract to stay in Kansas City.

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    VIKES CAN SIGN ALLEN POST-DRAFT
    Posted by Mike Florio on April 19, 2008, 11:04 p.m.
    Earlier on Saturday, we floated the possibility of the Minnesota Vikings signing Kansas City Chiefs defensive end Jared Allen to an offer sheet after the 2008 draft. If the Chiefs choose not to match the offer, they would be stuck with the Vikings’ first-round draft picks in 2009 and 2010.

    Several readers asked whether such a move would be permissible, citing the Friday, April 18 deadline for signing players to offer sheets. Though vague, the CBA seemed to indicate that the pre-draft deadline applies only to restricted free agents, and not to franchise players. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello confirmed for us that there is no pre-draft deadline for signing franchise players to offer sheets.

    Thus, if the Vikings believe that the team is going to be a solid contender over the next few years in a so-so NFC North (especially after Brett Favre’s retirement), why not make the run at Allen after the draft? The first-round picks in 2009 and 2010 will be low.

    They’ll be even lower if the players whom the Vikes land in a 2008 draft that is deep but not top-heavy become solid contributors.

    In our view, it’s a no-brainer. The Vikings should sign Allen to an offer sheet with a poison pill the moment after exercising the 17th overall selection in round one. __________________

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    This is depressing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefster View Post
    This is depressing!
    Dang it HH you was suppose to get some diet coke for chiefster!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tornadospotter View Post
    Dang it HH you was suppose to get some diet coke for chiefster!
    Thank you for thinkin of the old guy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tornadospotter View Post
    Dang it HH you was suppose to get some diet coke for chiefster!
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    Thank you for thinkin of the old guy!
    I did over in my 15,000 post thread.

    But what the heck, here ya go old man!



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    Quote Originally Posted by tornadospotter View Post
    would that bonus count against the cap?
    That bonus would be in the "likely to be earned category" and would count against the cap before each year. If it was not earned it would then be refunded on the next years cap. Other bonuses which are in the "not likely to be earned" category are added in at the end of the year and subtracted from the following years adjusted cap.

    Therein lies the problem with the poison pill. Obviously a trade was worked out, but lets say for a minute it hadn't been. If the Minnesota Vikings had offered JA a contract say 5 years $60 million but part of the $60 million was this "poison pill", the reality is matching the contract would cost the Chiefs 5 years and $70 million (an additional $10 million due to the fact that they have more games against AFC West opponents, "the poison pill")
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    anyone catch NFL LIVE yesterday? they had herm edwards on the phone...
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    Quote Originally Posted by anaeelbackwards View Post
    anyone catch NFL LIVE yesterday? they had herm edwards on the phone...
    He has a phone? ....what's next, the internet?
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