optimism...

[texaschief]

There sure is a lot of it at Warpaint these days.

Homeboy Athan seems to really like some of our new guys. While i'm sure Warpaint would be on here *****ing if i copied their article here, I just think this guy should put down the red colored lenses for a while.

http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=2&c=756874

I CAN tell you that his assessment of Charles and Lokey are pretty accurate though. Having watched those guys that past few years here in Texas, i was shocked we were able to get them where we did... especially Lokey. I have no doubt that Lokey will be in the rotation on our D-line.

He seems to know that Robinson is THE GUY at PR and guesses that McDuffie is the future at LG. I for one would be shocked. He likes Dingle and again, compares Johnston to Allen.

I've gotta tell ya, if a 7th rounder starts at DE this season, I think our D-line is in worse shape than i previously expected. I just can't see 31 teams passing on this guy 7 times before the Chiefs were able to swoop in and pick him up if he were all that special.

I honestly can't see us picking up a Jared Allen type player in the 7th round the year we trade Allen away. Things like that just don't happen at Arrowhead.

[Guru]

There sure is a lot of it at Warpaint these days.

This is not new.

[texaschief]

in another OTA post:

http://kan.scout.com/2/757819.html

He says Albert is NFL ready because he stopped Hali from lowering his shoulder and getting to the QB.... I could be wrong here because i genuinely don't know.... are these guys even wearing pads yet? Every picture i've seen of OTA's are of guys WITHOUT pads.

Anyhoo.... Athan seems to think (like me) that Surtain won't be a starting CB this season. He says that Patterson has been starting opposite Flowers during practice and says that if Carr can perform with pads the way he's been doing without pads, that the Chiefs could be starting a pair of rookies at CB....not that Patterson would necessarily be a veteran mind you.

Athan is officially the driver of the Johnston bandwagon... stating that he "blew by Herb Taylor" but "never went against Albert." (why not?) If Hali can go against Albert, why can't Johnston?

He also thinks that Connor Barth's leg strength is what will ultimately win him the job over Novak and Cundiff.

I just don't know how this guy could possibly think he can judge these players' talents with the pads off. This kind of crap makes me laugh.

There are only a few positions, such as kicker/punter and MAYBE skill positions like DBs and WRs where you can actually see what you're getting when the pads are off. Everyone else is just out there playing patty cake right now.

I want to see how these guards and tackles play when they're getting driven and run the Fu#$ over. I've read from several sources, not just Athan, that Dorsey is dominating Waters and Jones inside....WTF ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT?!!! How can you judge that without pads?

....sorry, this just bothers me.

[AkChief49]

There sure is a lot of it at Warpaint these days.

Homeboy Athan seems to really like some of our new guys. While i'm sure Warpaint would be on here *****ing if i copied their article here, I just think this guy should put down the red colored lenses for a while.

http://kan.scout.com/a.z?s=115&p=2&c=756874

I CAN tell you that his assessment of Charles and Lokey are pretty accurate though. Having watched those guys that past few years here in Texas, i was shocked we were able to get them where we did... especially Lokey. I have no doubt that Lokey will be in the rotation on our D-line.

He seems to know that Robinson is THE GUY at PR and guesses that McDuffie is the future at LG. I for one would be shocked. He likes Dingle and again, compares Johnston to Allen.

I've gotta tell ya, if a 7th rounder starts at DE this season, I think our D-line is in worse shape than i previously expected. I just can't see 31 teams passing on this guy 7 times before the Chiefs were able to swoop in and pick him up if he were all that special.

I honestly can't see us picking up a Jared Allen type player in the 7th round the year we trade Allen away. Things like that just don't happen at Arrowhead.

sometimes though you can find a gem, even in the 7th round......
Some numbers for all you numbers people who keep forgetting about the guy we drafted at DE, Brian Johnston.
40y Dash
-Adams, Gaines 4.64 (1st DE taken in 07)
-Gholston 4.65c/4.58p (2nd DE taken in 08)
-BRIAN JOHNSTON 4.66
(4th best DEs in 08, best for linemen above 260lbs)
-Williams, Mario 4.7 (1st DE and first overall in 06)
-Long,C 4.75 (1st De taken in 08)
Jared Allen 4.81 (that one guy)
-Harvey 4.84 (3rd DE taken in 08)
10y Dash
-BRIAN JOHNSTON 1.51
-McFadden 1.51
-Long,C 1.53
-Peterson, Adrian 1.53
-Gholston 1.53
-Mendenhall 1.53
-Adams, Gaines 1.58
-Harvey 1.59
-Williams, Mario 1.60
Jared Allen 1.72
Vert Jump
-Williams, Mario 40.5
-Gholston 35.5
-BRIAN JOHNSTON 35
(Second best for DL in 08, best for his size)
-Adams, Gaines 35
-Long,C 34
Jared Allen 33
-Harvey 28
20y shuttle
-BRIAN JOHNSTON 4.18
(most impressive stat, better than any RB, tying Mendenhall)
-Mendenhall, 4.18
-Long,C 4.21
-Harvey 4.36
-Adams, Gaines 4.36
-Williams, Mario 4.37
Jared Allen 4.46
-Gholston 4.40
-Peterson, Adrian 4.40
-Campbell,C 4.63
3 cone
-BRIAN JOHNSTON 6.96
-Long,C 7.02
-Peterson, Adrian 7.09
-Gholston 7.12
Jared Allen 7.15
-Adams, Gaines 7.17
-Campbell,C 7.19
-Williams, Mario 7.21
-Harvey 7.27
All those agility and speed tests are even more stunning when you take into account his being 6'5 274 lbs.
Johnston has fought almost constant double teams, which is why his 6 sacks don’t look that impressive, but he has proven to be very solid against the run, despite being double teamed, his 74 tackles, 20.5 being for a loss, prove that he can fight through multiple blockers and get to the ball carrier. Very good at using his hands, strong and quick, Johnston plays the game with a non-stop motor. He will have to increase his repertoire of pass rushing moves and continue to train to get stronger and quicker in the NFL. By Odendin @Arrowhead Pride
Glass half full? or half empty?

[AkChief49]

I realize the guy(Johnston) has not played a down in the NFL...he is not proven, maybe he'll suck, I do not know. But you got to admit, he looks good as far the tangibles!

[Chiefster]

They are the rah, rah boys there.

[Chiefster]

This is not new.

Nope, and at least once every four or five years they're right.

[Canada]

They are the rah, rah boys there.

Sounds like a good place to talk about the Chief if you don't want to hear them getting bashed here anymore!!

[DrunkHillbilly]

Sounds like a good place to talk about the Chief if you don't want to hear them getting bashed here anymore!!

You should probably log on over there, seem to be more your type!! Or on the payroll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Canada]

You should probably log on over there, seem to be more your type!! Or on the payroll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I got to quite a few different boards and believe it or not I have actually heard some positive things about the Chiefs. From people who are not being paid to say it!! Crazy ....they must not know anything about football either!!