If only we had a O-Line to protect him!

[tornadospotter]

Where have we seen this before?

Jul 08, 2008, 3:01:05 AM by Jonathan Rand - FAQ



The unfolding Brett Favre soap opera should seem familiar to Chiefs fans. Didn’t we see a similar show at Arrowhead Stadium a year ago, albeit with a less famous quarterback?
A young quarterback, Brodie Croyle, was the presumptive starter a few months before he stumbled in the preseason. Former Pro Bowler Trent Green complained he wasn’t getting a fair chance to keep the job he’d held for six years, and he was given permission to seek a trade.
Yet, even as the Chiefs were trying to move him to the Dolphins, Green reported to Arrowhead for voluntary spring workouts. He was trying to turn up the pressure on the Chiefs, whose negotiations were stalemated. It took another month for them to close the deal.
What should have been a routine spat between the Chiefs and Green turned into major nationwide sports news. Public demand for NFL news in the offseason far exceeds the supply.
It doesn’t take a lot of imagination to envision the circus that would surround Favre and the Packers if developments continue the direction they seemed headed. First, he retired, setting his five-year clock for Hall of Fame induction. Early rumors of his return seemed unfounded.
More recently, however, Favre’s relatives gave legs to talk of Favre’s return. His brother, Scott, claimed a comeback was a 50-50 possibility. His mother, Bonita, claimed that Packers general manager Ted Thompson lacked enthusiasm for bringing Favre back, and that Favre no longer felt welcome with the team. Favre, meanwhile, hasn’t said much.
The Packers prepared carefully for life after Favre, who had a bang-up season in 2007 before ending it with an interception that allowed the Giants to continue their championship run. The Packers named Aaron Rodgers to start and drafted quarterbacks Brian Brohm and Matt Flynn.
Should Favre notify the NFL office that he wishes to return, the Packers would have to activate or release him. If they’d want him back, there’d be no problem. But if they don’t want his back, they’d face a touchy situation, to say the least.
They Packers obviously wouldn’t release him because of his trade value and because they don’t want him calling signals for a division rival, or any other NFC team for that matter.
If Favre wants to play but he’s not wanted in Green Bay, the Packers could well face the predicament the Chiefs faced last spring. If they don’t trade him before training camp begins July 27, they could not prevent him from taking snaps along with Rodgers and the rookies. That circus would make the Chiefs’ episode with Green seem like a backyard juggling act.
Cable channels would be showing us Favre 24/7 and everybody in camp, right down to the ball boys, would get the chance to tell America whether they think Favre should be the team’s starter.
The Packers obviously would not relish the spectacle of their foremost franchise icon since the Lombardi era griping about being held hostage.
Because Favre’s coming off a strong season – 4,155 yards and 28 touchdown passes – it’s tempting to assume he’s still in his prime. But he’ll turn 39 in October and had back-to-back mediocre seasons before 2007.
The Chiefs have more experience than most teams with successful quarterbacks who needed a change in scenery near the end of their careers. The club’s evaluations have proved accurate.
Green took over as the Dolphins’ starter only to suffer a concussion for the second straight season. He’s now moved on to the Rams as Marc Bulger’s backup.
In 1993, the Chiefs traded for Joe Montana, arguably the best quarterback of all time, but who was coming off injury problems that led to his replacement in San Francisco by Steve Young. Though Montana in his two years with the Chiefs was no longer the great player he’d once been, he led them to the AFC championship game in 1993. They haven’t advanced that far since.
Montana’s departure from San Francisco and the fans’ enduring loyalty to him made Young’s life difficult, and filled with boos, until he threw six touchdown passes in a Super Bowl victory over the Chargers in the January, 1995 Super Bowl. So you can imagine the pressure that would hound Rodgers in Green Bay if Favre winds up in another uniform.
If Favre wants to come back to the Packers and they’re willing to tear up their succession plan for now, perhaps both can live happily ever after. Otherwise, ill will could pollute the skies of Green Bay.
Once egos, money and public opinion get involved, there’s no civil way to resolve these things.



If only? I would try to get him, for a season or two. He could help develop our young QB's and wins some games for us! Just my thoughts anyway.
Post away what if Brett became a Chief?

[jakesmith]

I would have to say that yes milkman is loonie. Probably a suffering purple people eater or something.

And No, Farve is not overrated.

To pull this back to the Chiefs (afterall this is a Chiefs fan website. ). If the Chiefs had a QB with the caliber of Brett Farve in the late nineties and early 2000s. We would probably be talking dynasty.

[KiNgSmOkEy]

Here...let's just take this back where it started with milkman saying he is the most overrated qb ever....I feel this thread has shifted from Favre to Montana....


so kings...leave montana out of this...Milkman is saying favre is the most overrated qb ever...the rest of us say he is looney.


Is Favre the most overrated qb ever? Nobody said he is better than Montana...

No, Favre is not overrated if you consider him in the top 10 QBs ALL TIME. What im saying though is more to what i hear on tv and around me every day( WHEN THEY SAY FAVRE IS THE GREATEST QB OF ALL TIME.) That irritates me. So, to people who say that then yes he is overrated.

[chief31]

This is where that argument is lacking. Montana s game was a methodical approach as to favre s free spirited improvise approach. Hence all Favres interceptions. This making favre more appealing to watch but not nearly as dedicated the craft of awarness and accuracy as Montana. So no his post season stats would not be even nearly as close to montanas. With or without Rice.

Both Montana and Rice were aided by a revolutionary offensive gameplan, and by the presence of each other.

So, for the Montana/Favre comparison, Montana had Rice and Walsh, while Favre had Favre.

I think the argument is a fair one, from either side.

[milkman]

Those are numbers...milkman doesnt like numbers. Nobody said he is the greatest qb ever. ...he's just not the most overrated qb ever as stated by milkman.

BTW...pretty sure Favre would have won more games with Rice and Taylor at his sides.

Welcome to the forum.

But you see, smokey has hit the nail on the head.

Brett Favre has entered the discussion in the media as the greatest ever, and because he has, he is the most overrated.

[milkman]

Favre.........overrated? LOL! You keep saying that he makes bone-headed moves in critical positions to take his team out of a drive. All of the great QBs have done that, none of them are perfect!

Have you even TRIED looking at some of the GAME-WINNING plays this guy has made through out his career? I think I'll take Favre in a heart beat.

I didn't say that any of them are perfest.

I said that Brett Favre is more inclined than any of the QBs I named to make boneheaded mistakes in critical situations.

Some of the QBs I named are not among the greatest ever, although I think that John Hadl might be the most underrated, and should be in the HoF.

But they are all guys I would trust with the ball in their hands with the game on the line more than I would trust Favre.

And, yes, I've seen the game winning drives that Favre has engineered,
But I've also seen the boneheaded decisions he's made that has cost the Pack.

[OTR Chiefs fan]

I didn't say that any of them are perfest.

I said that Brett Favre is more inclined than any of the QBs I named to make boneheaded mistakes in critical situations.

Some of the QBs I named are not among the greatest ever, although I think that John Hadl might be the most underrated, and should be in the HoF.

But they are all guys I would trust with the ball in their hands with the game on the line more than I would trust Favre.

And, yes, I've seen the game winning drives that Favre has engineered,
But I've also seen the boneheaded decisions he's made that has cost the Pack.

Favre has that gun slinger mentality, hence the propensity to make more mistakes than a more disciplined QB. I think he is a top 10 QB, but not the best ever. I think the best thing for the Packers is to trade or let Favre go. It's time to move on and see what they have in Rodgers. Favre was great for them and they should give him all the respect in the world, but there comes a time when you have to move on, ala.... 49ers/Montana.

[Coach]

I'm sorry, but no thanks. this would do nothing but set the organization back another year.

Let's say we DID sign the guy and we managed a .500 record, then the next year even, we make the playoffs and actually win a game.... then what?

Brett Favre retires and a team that is ready to start competing has to take a step backward and try to compete with either another free agent QB or a guy who's been sitting on the bench for a couple years....and his name won't be Brodie Croyle because there's no way he'll re-sign if we don't start him in 08.

Signing Favre is a really bad idea for the long term goals of this team. We need to see what Croyle can do as a starter while we're still a relatively bad team so that we can draft a top rated QB early in the draft if indeed Croyle can't handle it.


so.... i say pass on Favre....not that i really need to say that cuz there's absolutely no way he'd sign here in the first place.

Honestly....I dont want him...I'd rather give BC a shot behind this line. Yes nobody likes BC, but I don't want to have a new QB every season. Some consistency would be nice, and if we are rebuilding, Brett isnt going to help us rebuild. What happens if we finish above .500 next year and brett retires? We wont be high enough in the draft to pickup 'THE' qb of the draft.


Give BC a chance behind this line, if he flops....good, no Herm, no CP, and a new Tebow next season!

These posts pretty much sum up my thoughts on Favre. I think he is one of the best of all time, but I wouldn't want him on the squad even if he played for free. We are trying to build something here. Brett would not be happy happy riding the bench here, and we need to evaluate Brodie.

[DrunkHillbilly]

These posts pretty much sum up my thoughts on Favre. I think he is one of the best of all time, but I wouldn't want him on the squad even if he played for free. We are trying to build something here. Brett would not be happy happy riding the bench here, and we need to evaluate Brodie.

Not going to happen but if he were to come here, he definetly would not be "riding the bench" behind Croyle just for evaluation purposes!!!

[milkman]

To be very clear, I'm not saying he's not a top 10 all time.
Hell, he might be top 5.

But he should never, ever, be entered into a discussion about "greatest ever".

[Three7s]

To be very clear, I'm not saying he's not a top 10 all time.
Hell, he might be top 5.

But he should never, ever, be entered into a discussion about "greatest ever".

I'll admit, at first I didn't know what you meant by "overrated". I thought you meant that he was worse than the top 5-10 that most, including myself, were giving him credit for. I agree he's not the absolute best. There's two QBs playing right now that'll probably be better than him too when they're done.