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    Okay, I've seen at least 5-6 people propose trading LJ and going with Smith/Charles as the RBBC over the past couple weeks. Although the theory may be nice considring the team is rebuilding and that LJ is being paid a lot for a guy who is unable to do much without an O-line...I am just a bit confused as to where he'd go?

    Name 1 team that fits all the needed characteristics to trade for him

    1) Salary cap space
    2) Young players/draft picks Chiefs would want
    3) Need a running back to become a playoff/championship contender

    Okay, there are plenty of teams with the salary cap space, but very few that are a running back away from contention.

    The only team I can think of at all is Houston, and with Kubiak there (being from the Shanahan school of coaching) I doubt he'd pay much for a running back

    Other teams that are close but don't fit are: Cincy (no O-line), Seattle (just invested in Julius Jones), and Detroit (invested in Kevin Smith & Rudi Johnson for this season).

    Pretty much every other team is set and invested in a suitable RB, or they have other issues that are more pressing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHIEFCANNON View Post
    For what is worth... I wrote to Bob Moore of the Chiefs who was a tad bid defensive in his response.

    Original Message-----


    Sent: 9/8/2008 1:03 AM
    Subject: Future Starting QB

    Respectfully, Mr. Moore

    I would be on the phone Monday to Cleveland to trade .... Yes, Larry
    Johnson to the Browns for Brady Quinn. IF, there is any chance of a playoff
    or SuperBowl in the next decade for the Chiefs it would be with Quinn and
    not Brodie Croyle. Croyle is glaringly not the answer and a large glass of
    "Kool-aid" nor The Preacher/Peterson spin doctoring is going to cover the
    sadly obvious.

    Even the NFL Channel commentators state that Croyle is not the answer at QB
    for the Chiefs. That would be Deion and Steve Marriucci.

    My opinion is just that, but, there's growing discernment in the Chiefs'
    Nation that Mr. Croyle is fragile, fractured and failing to even glimpse the
    role of "Franchise QB" that has summarily been handed to him on a silver
    platter and NOT earned. I've seen more poise, accuracy, quality decision
    making, in two quarters of football with Quinn running the Browns than 7
    games of what ever it is that being sold as Brodie Croyle in Chiefs uniform.

    If you want to play for picks keep him in there... if your goal is to bring
    in thee guy that shows the skills to get the Chiefs back to the SuperBowl
    after 38 years and counting ... make a Jared Allen move and do the deal
    while you still can. Bring a Franchise QB to the Chiefs.

    Again, most respectfully

    Chief Cannon
    9/8/2008



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    Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 5:39 AM
    Subject: RE: Future Starting QB


    You need to get over your Peterson controls all things and is forever spin
    doctoring. Who the starting qb is falls to the head coach not the gm. Brodie
    Quinn is not going to be traded by Cleveland in the first place and secondly
    needs as much time as Croyle to determine if he i a starting qb or not and
    that takes on average over 30 games behind center.

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    Here's another response from the Chiefs....Jim:

    Thanks for your email and your passion for Chiefs football. Clearly we are just as concerned regarding Brodie’s injury as is the rest of the Chiefs Nation. Rest assured, we are exploring many options at this point. Unfortunately, a true “franchise QB” is a very rare commodity in the NFL and the Chiefs aren’t the only franchise seeking one. However, we certainly share your sentiments that a quality signal caller is a key element to any successful playoff tema.



    Again, we appreciate your longtime support of the Chiefs and your observations.


    Best Regards,

    Pete
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    7:01 AM
    Hey Bob ... I get your message. I'll get over the "spin-doctoring" when it
    stops. You guys do do it. Secondly trade LJ not Brodie... and it's Brady
    Quinn ... I almost screwed it up the names myself. Like I said to another
    Chief fan... I've got a crisp "Ben Franklin" that... you will never see
    Brodie Croyle play in a Chiefs uniform as the starting QB in any playoff or
    Super Bowl appearance for the Kansas City Chiefs. What you've got here is a
    skinny version of Elvis Grbac... he never had the team or the right stuff to
    get the job done.

    I'd bet Len Dawson would tell you .... Brodie is not the future of the
    Chiefs.

    IMHO it's not going to take 30 starts to get message ... and shouldn't ...
    like knowing Kendrell Bell stunk.. Siavii, Simms, Parker, OMG...Drummond...
    I'll stop. How does Jeff Webb make this team and Sippio doesn't? Or you
    keep Sams and not Sippio? Just curious.
    You sure could have used someone who can catch yesterday... and you would
    have won. Yes, I know it was Bowe that Bobo'ed... he'll make up for it.
    Good effort by the Chiefs when no one gave this team one ounce of respect on
    TV or otherwise... and they still don't. We're used to it.

    It's now time to punch the Raider in the other good eye this week at
    home.....ARROWHEAD STADIUM! How about honoring Lamar Hunt with a bronze
    statue outside the entrance of the stadium. Re-name the field in honor of
    him. "Lamar Hunt Stadium at Arrowhead". Forget about the sponsor money and
    honor The Man who built the Chiefs... for that matter helped build the NFL
    into what it is today.

    I understand and respect the fact you responded with your family
    emergency.... I hope things went the best for your family and all is well.

    Sincerely,

    Chief Cannon
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    I woulda thought that they would rename the field immediately after Lamar passed!

    As far as Johnson is concered? I was calling for his trade befor the season started!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtandcrew View Post
    I woulda thought that they would rename the field immediately after Lamar passed!

    As far as Johnson is concered? I was calling for his trade befor the season started!
    Which gets back to my original point and reason to start this thread...there is nowhere to send LJ. Cleveland would be crazy to trade Quinn for LJ. The salary cap implications alone are wrong for Cleveland as well as the fact that Jamal Lewis will serve their needs just fine for the next couple years, and is paid much less than LJ....and before the season doesn't change this. Now if you could go back to last August when he was holding out, I'd bet you could've gotten some value for him...but it likely would've come in the form of a top WR, or some draft picks...not a QB.
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    I disagree....I think we coulda had Quinn IF we wanted him. Herm is set on a Youth deal that he already has, so dont see him going out and making moves with the people we have

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    You guys are High. Sometimes I cant beleive what I read on this web site. LJ was just coming into his stride when he got hurt last year. WE DIDNT WIN 1 GAME AFTER HE WAS INJURED!!!!!!!!!! And yes he was having a mediocre year for the first 3 weeks but our O-line was Horrid. He just played against an amazing D-Line last week. Give this guy a break.

    Perfect example of a Chiefs Fan: A guy carries the ball 420 times in 1 season (NFL record) risking his career for the sake of the team and you guys crap on him. Congrats Chiefs fans, you guys are great!


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    LJ should get at least 100 yards rushing against the Raiders horrific defense, if he doesn't, I think I might be worried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Daddy Tek View Post
    You guys are High. Sometimes I cant beleive what I read on this web site. LJ was just coming into his stride when he got hurt last year. WE DIDNT WIN 1 GAME AFTER HE WAS INJURED!!!!!!!!!! And yes he was having a mediocre year for the first 3 weeks but our O-line was Horrid. He just played against an amazing D-Line last week. Give this guy a break.

    Perfect example of a Chiefs Fan: A guy carries the ball 420 times in 1 season (NFL record) risking his career for the sake of the team and you guys crap on him. Congrats Chiefs fans, you guys are great!

    I never said LJ was the problem. I'm simply stating that there isn't a demand for him in the trade market considering his contract. I think he'll still finish with 1200+ yards and 10+TDs which is a nice season considering the O-line he's working with.
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    All i have to say is I'm glad the Raiders passed on Dorsey. Otherwise, the Chiefs might lose Sunday. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaschief View Post
    All i have to say is I'm glad the Raiders passed on Dorsey. Otherwise, the Chiefs might lose Sunday. lol
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    As long as Al Davis remains with the Raiders, they won't even sniff .500.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Three7s View Post
    As long as Al Davis remains with the Raiders, they won't even sniff .500.
    I like Al Davis, He is the best GM we have, He will never underspend us for overrated players, and he will never let us be in last place of the AFC West! Got to like this guy, Al, hope he has many more years.

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