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    Down — but definitely out

    Chiefs’ rebuilding job is only just beginning


    By Dan Arkush
    Sept. 22, 2008
    Profootball Weekly

    With 15 rookies on their 53-man roster and 32 players with three years of experience or less, not too many people realistically expected a Chiefs team that lost its 12th straight regular-season game in Atlanta on Sunday to be anything close to a contending team this season.


    That said, we hear there are many league observers who believe the Chiefs should be a lot better than they’ve performed three weeks into the season, including some higher-ups in the team’s organization who just might eventually consider making some changes at the top if the team continues to look so inferior to its competition.


    Said one veteran NFL evaluator a few days before the Chiefs’ 38-14 shellacking by the Falcons: “When you are sitting on the five-yard line and you cannot score against New England (in Week One), and then you get whipped by an organization as dysfunctional as Oakland (in Week Two), I don’t know how you could have any hope.

    “On paper, it looked like they could be 3-2 through the first five games. After what I’ve seen, I don’t think they could be any better than 0-5, and they are likely looking at the top pick in the draft.”

    Should that indeed be the case, don’t be surprised if the Chiefs use that pick on the best quarterback available in 2009. With a lot of major concerns from which to choose, the Chiefs’ QB situation is particularly tenuous, with four different signalcallers getting thrown into the fire in the first three games.

    The quarterback currently under center for the Chiefs is Tyler Thigpen, a third-stringer entering the season who made his first start on Sunday, with Brodie Croyle, who has suffered three injuries in his seven pro starts, out with a separated shoulder, and veteran backup Damon Huard sidelined with a sore neck.

    Fox insider Jay Glazer’s report Sunday morning that the Chiefs tried to work a trade earlier this week for Browns backup QB Brady Quinn didn’t surprise league insiders, some of whom believe Chiefs GM Carl Peterson could be feeling a real sense of urgency to accelerate the team’s progress and, as a result, solidify his job security.

    Don’t be surprised if the Chiefs continue to seriously explore other possible “quick fix” solutions in the coming weeks (Jeff Garcia? Daunte Culpepper?) — to the extent that there might be any feasible help available.

    “They need so much at core positions — it’s not just a quarterback,” said one league source. “It’s the offensive line, rush end, cornerback. It’s going to take more than another draft to make them competitive.

    “The biggest problem is they do not have a quarterback. And it’s scary to think they were going to pass up a franchise quarterback (Matt Ryan, who scorched the Chiefs on Sunday) last year if he were there at No. 5 (in the 2008 draft).”

    Chiefs head coach Herm Edwards continues to put up as good a front as he can in his exchanges with the media.

    “We’re building,” Edwards said earlier this week.” I’m going through it with everybody else, and I don’t like it. But it’s the best thing for this organization.”

    What might not be the best thing for the organization, according to some sources close to the scene, is for Edwards to have any significant input in the team’s personnel decisions.

    “He’s an awful evaluator,” said one veteran pro evaluator with firsthand knowledge of Edwards’ personnel acumen. “First of all, he can’t stay awake long enough to watch the film. He’s one of those guys that can watch 15 snaps and then go off for a half hour about what the guy could or could not do for him in his system.”

    Jamaal Charles. University of Texas.

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    Ok that didnt tell me anything that I already didnt know, lol, do you think I need pro football weekly to tell me my team is struggling?? lol....

    And the jab for Herm at the end, I bet you loved that one huh??

    Not sure I understand why he posted this, but I think I can guess why!!

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    Might be to let others know that it isn't just us "whiners" who see the trouble on the horizon. Garcia goes on to also give me a negative rep on a article I DIDN'T WRITE! So here it is. The board rules according to garciakcfan- 1. No one can complain about the Chiefs. 2. No one can question a fan's true "fanness" unless you're a homer who's head is stuck in the sand. 3. Criticisms of Herm Edwards will not be tolerated. 4. Stats and facts are needed in anything resembling an attack upon the Chiefs. However, those same required stats and facts can be and will be ignored when they get in the way. 5. Articles written by unbiased weekly sports writers are also off limits. So I guess that leaves out the other big boy writers from NFL.com, espn.com or Sportsnation.com. What do they know anyways?

    Jamaal Charles. University of Texas.

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    Like I said before you can write whatever you want and post whatever you want, I can care less... Im not a MOD and never will be. But I also have the right to rubuttle too..

    I was just showing another example of how you post negative crap thats all sweetheart...

    If you feel like I deserve negative feedback for something I wrote by all means go ahead, I won't take it personally and I won't lose any sleep over it... I felt it was justified so I did it... It was a poor post and didnt like it.. Get over it!!! as Herm would say

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    Quote Originally Posted by greg3564 View Post
    Might be to let others know that it isn't just us "whiners" who see the trouble on the horizon. Garcia goes on to also give me a negative rep on a article I DIDN'T WRITE! So here it is. The board rules according to garciakcfan- 1. No one can complain about the Chiefs. 2. No one can question a fan's true "fanness" unless you're a homer who's head is stuck in the sand. 3. Criticisms of Herm Edwards will not be tolerated. 4. Stats and facts are needed in anything resembling an attack upon the Chiefs. However, those same required stats and facts can be and will be ignored when they get in the way. 5. Articles written by unbiased weekly sports writers are also off limits. So I guess that leaves out the other big boy writers from NFL.com, espn.com or Sportsnation.com. What do they know anyways?
    I've got to agree with that one though. I can't stand criticism by people who can't back up things they say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greg3564 View Post
    Might be to let others know that it isn't just us "whiners" who see the trouble on the horizon. Garcia goes on to also give me a negative rep on a article I DIDN'T WRITE! So here it is. The board rules according to garciakcfan- 1. No one can complain about the Chiefs. 2. No one can question a fan's true "fanness" unless you're a homer who's head is stuck in the sand. 3. Criticisms of Herm Edwards will not be tolerated. 4. Stats and facts are needed in anything resembling an attack upon the Chiefs. However, those same required stats and facts can be and will be ignored when they get in the way. 5. Articles written by unbiased weekly sports writers are also off limits. So I guess that leaves out the other big boy writers from NFL.com, espn.com or Sportsnation.com. What do they know anyways?

    For the Herm Edwards comment, I was mad after leaving that game against the gayders... It was the worst display of offense I have ever seen in my life... But I didnt run on here and start bashing him... I let time pass and got over it.. I have questioned his play calling from time to time but I believe in what they are trying to do with this team and at the end of the day I love my chiefs and they are my team through thick and thin and no matter what or who will always defend them

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    Greg, seriously??? You neg rep me for as you called it "tit for tat" and thats it??? No other reason... lol

    I neg rep you once for your negative comments and another negative post even though it was an article, so what you posted it...

    At least tell me you didnt like what I said earlier when I was calling you names or something, not some lame "tit for tat" lol

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