The Ring

[Canada]

Well Chief31...I'm waiting!! :)

[chief31]

So is the offence bad or are they good. You seem to have two points of view depending on what fits you argument at the time.

Last time I checked the offence on the field was Vermeils offence. Herm inheirited last years team. There were not a lot of changes made, and Solari was calling the plays was he not? Old offensive line coach that wants to run the ball a lot? I know that it is Herm's gameplan but it was Vermeils offence on the field last year that was "lack lustre" I agree that maybe we could have done more as far as the personnel on the O-line, but then we would be talking about how we did not address the D-line or the WR position. I did not get to see the draft this year, but who were the available O-linemen in the 23rd spot? There is no need to waste a pick on a player who is no good just to say that we plugged a hole. Maybe there was no talent there. (again I did not get to see the draft so I do not know) As far as changing the Vermeil offence (like the Ravens defence), if we kept all those guys together we would still be looking at a crap defence for another year, hoping to outscore everyone....which obviously did not work. Unfortunately replacing Roaf and Shilds is not an easy task, but maybe McIntosh will be the new Roaf in town. It is not like our line has never played good foorball before. I am still saying that I am going to give this team a chance to show what they can do before I write them off for the season.

Having not seen the offense, how would wnyone say that they are bad? Having said that...They suck!!! J/K. I fully expect them to be an extremely average offense. That is my opinion, of what will be. The fact that I HOPE that they will pull it together and find success, is not a contradiction.

The last time you checked, was in 2005. The '06 offense was certainly not the same. There were some vague, remaining shadows of it, but it was, certainly not, the same offense. Gone, were the sweeps, with traps and three pulling O-linemen. I failed to notice the fake end-around. I didn't see very much of the pre-snap shifts. All of these things are staples of the Vermiel offense. That was not the same offense.

As far as drafting offensive linemen. At every selection, the Chiefs made, there were O-linemen available, who warranted being selected, by the Chiefs.
It is my belief, based on past examples, that Herm Edwards does not covet offensive linemen, the way most head coaches have learned to do. Therefore, he likely had every offensive lineman, in the draft, rated lower than on most other teams' boards.

I'm not certain what "guys" you were talking about "kepping together", but personell,( with the exception of Roaf/Black) wasn't the big problem, last season.

Macintosh is never going to be anything like Willie Roaf. I'm not saying that he won't become servicable, or even pretty good, (long-shot) but that it would be a much more fair comparison, to use Jordan Black, side by side, with Macintosh.

Lastly, I have yet to "write-off" the Houston Texans, let alone, my own, beloved, Chiefs. Yes, my expectations are low. My hope stays high, no matter how dim things may appear.

[chief31]

If that is the case then i agree we should have made some better choices, but then maybe our defensive line is a little weaker. I just wish we could have gotten more kickers. :)

This brings me to a complaint that I haven't aired yet. How on Earth did Alan Branch slip to the second round? This was the top prospect at defensive tackle, in this seasons draft. OT Joe Staley was projected to go, in the second half, of the first round, but Branch was projected as a top ten draft pick, by the entire world.

Now, I like Tyler and have decided to bite my tongue and give Mcbride a fair chance, but Alan Branch was a monster, for Michigan. He and Okoye were "head and shoulders" above the rest of the DT class.

I would also like to agree with you, Canada, about not having drafted a couple more kickers. What were we thinking?!?! We wasted sooo many picks, on "position players". It's just a shame.

[Chiefster]

Ding, ding!! End of round one.

[Chiefster]

Quick Chief31 post again; you are on the dreaded post number 666! :p

[wolfpack]

the offense,hummm dickie vs hermmie,,, like use to driving a vette and being forced to drive a vw beetle. sooner or latter,probably alot latter, one gettes use to it. attack by scoring touchdowns or attck by scoring fieldgoals.

[Chiefster]

the offense,hummm dickie vs hermmie,,, like use to driving a vette and being forced to drive a vw beetle. sooner or latter,probably alot latter, one gettes use to it. attack by scoring touchdowns or attck by scoring fieldgoals.

To be a Super Bowl contender both sides of the ball must be developed; you can't build an offense and neglect the defense and vise versa, and it's going to take more then a couple of seasons. This was really my only complaint of the Vermeil era; it was also my "chief" complaint of the Schottenheimer era as well.

[wolfpack]

To be a Super Bowl contender both sides of the ball must be developed; you can't build an offense and neglect the defense and vise versa, and it's going to take more then a couple of seasons. This was really my only complaint of the Vermeil era; it was also my "chief" complaint of the Schottenheimer era as well.

one thing that stands out about the two oppsite ways of coaching, the both had the same front office. maybe, that is the root of the problem.

[Chiefster]

one thing that stands out about the two oppsite ways of coaching, the both had the same front office. maybe, that is the root of the problem.

I have said in the past that the one common denominator in the past 17, or so, years of Peterson's five year plan to get to the Super Bowl has been the retention of Carl himself.

[chief31]

one thing that stands out about the two oppsite ways of coaching, the both had the same front office. maybe, that is the root of the problem.

In C.P.s defense, he has given us some teams, that were capable of going to the Super Bowl and even winning it. Underachieving, in the playoffs, is not something that can be blamed on a GM. His biggest fault has been in his commitment to his head coaches. IMHO.

[Chiefster]

In C.P.s defense, he has given us some teams, that were capable of going to the Super Bowl and even winning it. Underachieving, in the playoffs, is not something that can be blamed on a GM. His biggest fault has been in his commitment to his head coaches. IMHO.

Yup; it is time for Clark Hunt to as CP says: "Move in a different direction" in the GM department IMO. No other team in the NFL would have held on to the guy as long as the Chiefs have.