Chances of drafting 2 OL?
Just trying to get others thoughts on the chances of us drafting a Top Tackle with our first pick? Then drafting a OG with our second or draft a DE or MLB with our second and a OG with our third? Of course we will need to pick up a QB with our fourth.
So this would be great
1) Best Tackle
EDIT: Does any team have 2 first rounders this coming draft? Maybe trade our top 3 pick if we are at that spot for more picks, BUT I'm banking on my main man Croyle to come in and be lights out and we end up in the middle of the draft!!!!
Last edited by balto; 10-07-2008 at 11:59 AM.
On the subject of kicking, how come its always other teams and not us who have fantastic kickers?
See here's the thing; If you look at our roster, we have heaps and piles of talent. Young talent, but talent nonetheless.
Originally Posted by Hayvern
In fact, I came across an old, post-draft issue of the Sporting News at the laundromat last Saturday. KC was the ONLY team to get an A+. Miami's draft wasn't even NEAR our zip code. But what did they do to help put their team in order? That's right; they hired Bill Parcels as a consultant and in-house strategist.
This is how ***-backwards the Chiefs, under CARLSATAN, truly are; they sunk all this cash in to building the Lamar/AFL Museum and some new 'posh-boxes' when they didn't posses a Team or a Coach!!!
And to this day, over 30 million dollars of cap money is collecting dust and interest in some bank.
Arrowhead is not a theme park; you have to actually provide something for people that isn't another go-around on the Timber Wolf!
Two or three rides on a roller coaster are enough to make me say "I'm done, and I'll see this place again in 2 or 3 years".
Why do they think 15 straight losses, pitiful coaching, and no discernible consistency are going to keep people coming back? How are blackouts as a result of this nonsense helping the bottom-line?
The end of this season is Clark Hunt's ONE CHANCE to step-up, take control, and build something greater than his father's legacy.
Froggy had better damned-well jump.
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Originally Posted by texaschief
Right. Taylor and Richardson are unable to win jobs over the absolute zeros that we are staring right now. But they will be good enough for a Herm Edwards o-line by next season, that's for sure.
We will likely end the season at the bottom of every offensive statistical category (again), but I believe that TC is right-on here. The Chiefs, if Herm is still in charge, will never draft a first day o-lineman again.
The five NFL starting-caliber LBs that we have on the roster right now, are certainly not enough to cover the three starting LB positions that his team has.
It is funny though, how we trade JA, bench Harris, cut Law, then demote Surtain and just move right along to the next pro-bowler to blame for our poor defense.
If you refuse to acknowledge that this is the third rebuild season for The Chiefs, then at least you can grant that this is the third season of rebuilding this defense.
The one area that we all expect Herm to be able to handle, and how is that going?
I'll stay away from the rookies, but how are Herms draft picks looking right now? Hali doesn't look like an NFL starter to me. Page never did. Pollard is becoming a disapointment. Boone looks like a capable back-up. Tyler doesn't. But, since they are Herms draftees, they are all NFL starters by his decision to start them.
Over the past six NFL drafts, the Chiefs have created three good defensive players. (DE, Jared Allen; LB, Derrick Johnson; LB, Kawika Mitchell.) Go back another season, and we can add Scott Fujita to that list.
First off, who drafted those guys?
Secondly, where are they at right now?
Allen is Minnesota. Mitchell is a starter in Buffalo. Fujita is a starter in N.O.
NOTE: None of those players is on a team with a 1-4 record.
But we still have Johnson. How long will that last? Considering I fully expect Herm to announce that next season is just 'step-two' of rebuilding, he will probably trade him away, so that he can have more draft picks.
Afterall, that seems to be how a rebuild works. Find the best young player on your team, and get rid of him. Because we aren't looking for anything like that anyway.
Everybody already knows that Herm doesn't know how to build an offense. If he can't build a defense in three seasons, and most coaches are expected to build both in that time, is his purpose anything more than what I pegged him as when he arrived here? Which is to create a losing football team?
Well, job finished. Time for him to move on to the next job.
I know! This is all just a set-up! A way to test Bill Cowher!
I like it! Hey Bill! Let's see what you can do with this mess!!!
Last edited by chief31; 10-08-2008 at 04:20 AM.
Harris was benched because he stinks, I don't know why you keep thinking he's any good. Though, we don't have any good MLBs, anyways. Surtain is old and needs to retire, the young kids can, easily, keep up with him and out-play him.
Originally Posted by chief31
I'll give you that Page stinks at tackling, but his coverage skills aren't the worst I've seen. Pollard stinks at coverage, but he seems faster than he used to be, and has a knack for knocking the ball out. Kawika Mitchel is only good in 3-4. He's awful in 4-3. He'd have to go back to 4-3 and perform well to tell me otherwise.
As for Hali, out of all the D-ends we've started,(Boone, Hali, McBride) he's done better than all of them, as expected. He does create pressure at times, and still is good at stopping the run. So he doesn't get to the QB as much as most would want? Think about this, this is his FIRST start on the right side, and against much tougher LTs, give the kid some time. No way we could do that though, huh? Being that he's Jared Allen's replacement and all.
Yeah, Hali is a force against he run. How many yards do we allow per game?
Originally Posted by Three7s
He isn't a RDE, he is a LDE, at best.
Harris? Law? Surtain? Our defense was better with them than it is now.
You can tell me all about how 'slow', or 'aweful' they are, but we were better then, than now.
I don't care if you want to tell me that you saw one of them stop during a play, take off their helmet, and run a towel in one ear, straight through the other.
Imagine this... I don't hold your player evalution as the end-all be-all. It's true. I really don't.
I saw them play, and I have seen their replacements play. They were better than what we have now.
I don't know which games you saw our corners play, but if you're going by the Panthers game, name me two that can stop Muhammad and Smith, and they'd be instant Hall of Famers. Before that game, our pass defense was near the top.
Originally Posted by chief31
As for run-D, you know that Hali isn't the whole D-line, right? There's three other guys that may screw up, then you have our incompetent and just plain horrible LBs. Dorsey isn't bad against the run, but I expected better. Hali may not be as good against the run as last season, since I'm sure that the coaching staff wants him to concentrate more on pass rushing, but I still hear his name being called for a tackle about as much as anyone.
My thoughts for the draft, and some of the players we could possibly select:
1st rd, pick 3 - Michael Oher, OT, Ole Miss
2nd rd, pick 3 - Brandon Spikes, MLB, Florida
3rd rd, pick 3 - Either Mark Sanchez, QB, USC (or) Chase Daniel, QB, Missouri
4th rd, pick 3 - Kraig Urbik, OG, Wisconsin
5th rd, pick 3 - Brandon Swain, DE/OLB, West TX A&M
6th rd, pick 3 - Jon Cooper, C, Oklahoma
7th rd, pick 3 - Dwain Crawford, CB, Baylor