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    Default Interesting.....LJ is #1 on list of possible trades on Yahoo

    1. RB Larry Johnson, Kansas City Chiefs
    Comment: “By the time the Chiefs are good again, he’s going to be done. … I don’t understand why they gave him all the money and then they wouldn’t sign Jared Allen. If you’re rebuilding, you don’t do it with a running back who’s going to be burned.” Another executive said Johnson has a reputation around the league as being a “spoiled brat” and “not much of a leader.”
    Best potential fits: He’s not a perfect fit in Philadelphia because of the style of the offense, but all of the executives said the Eagles could use him now that Brian Westbrook has broken ribs. Other teams that could use him would be the Denver Broncos, New England Patriots and New Orleans Saints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkHillbilly View Post
    Its not "wasted" money if they sure up that line. Like I said, you can't build your O line with rookies. There are and have been many FA O lineman the last few years and we didn't spend any money. If CP really retires after 09, we will have the potential to get some of these guys. So I ask you this question, if we trade him today and get whatever and then we somehow get a few serciceable O lineman in the off season, do you think the RB's we have now would be compareable to LJ? Wouldn't even be close!!!!!! In fact, I bet not one of them would have as good a year as he did when he only played 8 games and dominated the league!!!
    It will be at least 2010 before this O line is good putting LJ at the age of 30. Top end of a RB shelf life. And yes, I believe that some of the RBs we have now would be able to compare with LJs half season and I think Kolby will be a better choice in 2010 as our RB. I am not getting down on LJ, but his time is now and the rest of the team is a few years from now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canada View Post
    It will be at least 2010 before this O line is good putting LJ at the age of 30. Top end of a RB shelf life. And yes, I believe that some of the RBs we have now would be able to compare with LJs half season and I think Kolby will be a better choice in 2010 as our RB. I am not getting down on LJ, but his time is now and the rest of the team is a few years from now.
    Cool. Your opinion. Mine is that not ONE of the RB's we have now could do in an entire season what he did in half a season. We don't have a starting RB. None of the guys we have would start on any team in the league. You may end up being right but my point is that it didn't have to be 2010 before we had a line. This is why I have been on CP for as long as I've been a member here!! Why pay a guy if your going to set him up for failure? ANY RB in the league would be a failure behind this line! It's like paying Jerry Rice $75,000,000 and then not having any other receivers on the field! Not going to be too productive.

    Not saying a 3 back committee couldn't have a decent result but when you have one of the best in the league, you need to do what is right for that particular player which in turn is what's right for the team. Production goes up for the running game AND the QB if the line is better. Like I said, why pay a QB millions and millions of dollars if your going to have yourself, me and Herm blocking for him? I think we are seeing the results!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunker Hillbilly View Post
    Cool. Your opinion. Mine is that not ONE of the RB's we have now could do in an entire season what he did in half a season. We don't have a starting RB. None of the guys we have would start on any team in the league. You may end up being right but my point is that it didn't have to be 2010 before we had a line. This is why I have been on CP for as long as I've been a member here!! Why pay a guy if your going to set him up for failure? ANY RB in the league would be a failure behind this line! It's like paying Jerry Rice $75,000,000 and then not having any other receivers on the field! Not going to be too productive.

    Not saying a 3 back committee couldn't have a decent result but when you have one of the best in the league, you need to do what is right for that particular player which in turn is what's right for the team. Production goes up for the running game AND the QB if the line is better. Like I said, why pay a QB millions and millions of dollars if your going to have yourself, me and Herm blocking for him? I think we are seeing the results!!!
    I don't disagree with what you are saying. I would love to have an O line, but we don't. I am just joining the thread about an LJ trade. I wish we could block for him but that does not seem to be happening and like I have said all along...I am not opposed to trading LJ. I don't deny that he is one of the better RBs in the league, but we can run run pass punt with anyone.
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    Canada makes a good point. If you are rebuilding and making a youth movement, the pieces that should go are those that are veteran and have value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canada View Post
    I don't disagree with what you are saying. I would love to have an O line, but we don't. I am just joining the thread about an LJ trade. I wish we could block for him but that does not seem to be happening and like I have said all along...I am not opposed to trading LJ. I don't deny that he is one of the better RBs in the league, but we can run run pass punt with anyone.

    And we are so far proving it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nel Toille View Post
    Barry Sanders could have ran behind our offensive line... he was, of course, a true professional who played only because he loved the game.
    He was a truly amazing runner.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drunker Hillbilly View Post
    Cool. Your opinion. Mine is that not ONE of the RB's we have now could do in an entire season what he did in half a season. We don't have a starting RB. None of the guys we have would start on any team in the league. You may end up being right but my point is that it didn't have to be 2010 before we had a line. This is why I have been on CP for as long as I've been a member here!! Why pay a guy if your going to set him up for failure? ANY RB in the league would be a failure behind this line! It's like paying Jerry Rice $75,000,000 and then not having any other receivers on the field! Not going to be too productive.

    Not saying a 3 back committee couldn't have a decent result but when you have one of the best in the league, you need to do what is right for that particular player which in turn is what's right for the team. Production goes up for the running game AND the QB if the line is better. Like I said, why pay a QB millions and millions of dollars if your going to have yourself, me and Herm blocking for him? I think we are seeing the results!!!
    I actually agree with all of that. But I don't believe that a mediocre o-line would make LJ worth his paycheck here.

    I just don't think that he is good enough to get top-5 HB stats with a generic o-line.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkHillbilly View Post
    Not even he could have ran behind this line. They are worse than any O line Detroit ever had!!
    You might be right. I do agree about the quality of o-line. But Barry would have been able to break-off some big gains, even with our line. Not sure that it would be enough to give him respectable numbers, but they would likely be better than what we are getting right now.

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    Who's "Drunker Hillbilly"???

    Does he live in AZ too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seek View Post
    Absoulutely. We wouldn't even trade Greg Wesley in the division. We certainly wouldn't trade someone with possible lethal consequences.

    To even consider that in the article leades me to believe it is 100% opinion of the writer and nothing to be considered accurate.

    NOW, if we did fire CP and hired a new GM. I could see LJ on a trading block. New GM 's do that often. Clean house with the players they don't want in their club house. If LJ is truly a baby brat and we could get something for him. I could see it happening.

    If it could happen to Jason Taylor, it can happen to LJ.
    If they say LJ will be traded, then they better not go back on their word. I'm holding them to their promise. LJ is definitely the original brat, move over Dennis the Menace!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardcorechiefsfan View Post
    If they say LJ will be traded, then they better not go back on their word. I'm holding them to their promise. LJ is definitely the original brat, move over Dennis the Menace!
    Can you think of a team that needs a running back yet alone one that is in contention.

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    LJ is still fairly young for a RB. He dont need a team in contention. He is not in TG's position. LJ still has not proven he can return to form after his injury last year. He seems to be running scared rather than with authority as he did before the new contract AND injury. Im starting to think he is proving to be more of a liability than his worth. Problem is no 1 is going to want him or his contract unless the Chiefs give him permission to talk with other teams and he can sell himself. Carl WONT be able to sell LJ on any team. Both LJ and the Chiefs have made their beds and are going to have to lie in them till either the Chiefs just cut him and eat the contract (which wont happen) or LJ returns to form and other teams inquire about him. Also most teams now are doing RB by committee...same as the Chiefs (for most part) and he wants to be a 1 man gang! Hard to find a fit for him.

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