I can't believe I'm saying this...

[m0ef0e]

and I know I'm in the minority here, but I agree with Carl Peterson.



“I used as my measuring stick the fact that the New York Giants got a second and fifth round picks for Jeremy Shockey,” said Peterson of the July trade between the Giants and Saints. “Although he (Shockey) is five years younger, in my opinion he’s not as good and never will be as good as Tony Gonzalez."

Shockey has trouble staying healthy. Tony has missed only two starts in the last 10 seasons. Aside from all the records, Tony's consistency and reliability make him worth more than Shockey to any team in the league.

I'll be honest in the fact that I wanted to see Tony traded. I would hate to see him in another jersey but he definitely deserves to have a shot at a title before he retires. As a fan of Tony's, I want him to be happy and wish him only the best, moving forward.

However, the Chiefs can not screw themselves for the sake of one player's happiness-- not even Tony Gonzalez.

[hardcorechiefsfan]

and I know I'm in the minority here, but I agree with Carl Peterson.



“I used as my measuring stick the fact that the New York Giants got a second and fifth round picks for Jeremy Shockey,” said Peterson of the July trade between the Giants and Saints. “Although he (Shockey) is five years younger, in my opinion he’s not as good and never will be as good as Tony Gonzalez."

Shockey has trouble staying healthy. Tony has missed only two starts in the last 10 seasons. Aside from all the records, Tony's consistency and reliability make him worth more than Shockey to any team in the league.

I'll be honest in the fact that I wanted to see Tony traded. I would hate to see him in another jersey but he definitely deserves to have a shot at a title before he retires. As a fan of Tony's, I want him to be happy and wish him only the best, moving forward.

However, the Chiefs can not screw themselves for the sake of one player's happiness-- not even Tony Gonzalez.

You agree with keeping Tony or what? I don't understand your point in this post.
The only part I understand and agree with is the fact that you "would hate to see Tony in another jersey but he deserves to have a shot at a title before he retires".

How can you agree with Carl? Explain.

[Three7s]

You agree with keeping Tony or what? I don't understand your point in this post.
The only part I understand and agree with is the fact that you "would hate to see Tony in another jersey but he deserves to have a shot at a title before he retires".

How can you agree with Carl? Explain.

He agrees with Carl's measuring stick of trading TG. The Giants compared him to Shockey, and we all know that TG is better than him.

[m0ef0e]

He agrees with Carl's measuring stick of trading TG. The Giants compared him to Shockey, and we all know that TG is better than him.

Exactly. I would have liked to see Tony go somewhere where he can be happy and for us to get some good picks. I did not want to see us blow him out at a fire sale price with us not getting true value out of the best TE in NFL history. The situation didn't work out the way I wanted or the way that it could/should have. But we are no worse-off having Tony around for the remainder of the season and Tony can go somewhere and be happy next year. Tony's a patient guy (just look how long he's put up with CP) and he will not turn into a cancer in the locker room.

[wolfpack]

and I know I'm in the minority here, but I agree with Carl Peterson.



“I used as my measuring stick the fact that the New York Giants got a second and fifth round picks for Jeremy Shockey,” said Peterson of the July trade between the Giants and Saints. “Although he (Shockey) is five years younger, in my opinion he’s not as good and never will be as good as Tony Gonzalez."

Shockey has trouble staying healthy. Tony has missed only two starts in the last 10 seasons. Aside from all the records, Tony's consistency and reliability make him worth more than Shockey to any team in the league.

I'll be honest in the fact that I wanted to see Tony traded. I would hate to see him in another jersey but he definitely deserves to have a shot at a title before he retires. As a fan of Tony's, I want him to be happy and wish him only the best, moving forward.

However, the Chiefs can not screw themselves for the sake of one player's happiness-- not even Tony Gonzalez.

BAD thing is the chiefs DID screw themselfs for one person,,,,Hermmie. the gave a 4th for him.

[m0ef0e]

BAD thing is the chiefs DID screw themselfs for one person,,,,Hermmie. the gave a 4th for him.

Yup. CP definitely sucks and has made endless blunders. I agree with everybody and their mom in the fact that he needs to go. It was just so weird to see him say something that didn't piss me off.

[Drunker Hillbilly]

5 years is a BIG deal in this league! Should have taken what they were giving if not only to say thanks to TG.

[m0ef0e]

5 years is a BIG deal in this league! Should have taken what they were giving if not only to say thanks to TG.

I would rather have a healthy, productive player for 2 years at the end of his career than a younger injury-waiting-to-happen for 5.

I think a 3rd round pick is not enough (at best, it is borderline). A 4th round pick is just insulting to Tony and the organization.

[Drunker Hillbilly]

I would rather have a healthy, productive player for 2 years at the end of his career than a younger injury-waiting-to-happen for 5.

I think a 3rd round pick is not enough (at best, it is borderline). A 4th round pick is just insulting to Tony and the organization.

I understand your measuring stick but TG won't be here for 2 more years. He is D U N as a Chief. I think he would rather retire and then come out of retirement just to stick it to CP at this point!! Let's face it, TG can't do anything to help this team this year so CP should have got what he could now as opposed to less later IMO.

[m0ef0e]

I understand your measuring stick but TG won't be here for 2 more years. He is D U N as a Chief. I think he would rather retire and then come out of retirement just to stick it to CP at this point!! Let's face it, TG can't do anything to help this team this year so CP should have got what he could now as opposed to less later IMO.

I agree that Tony will probably be gone next year. I was saying that from the perspective of a team that may be interested in Tony. But you're wrong about Tony not helping the team this year. He will show these young guys how a pro's pro deals with adversity and distractions. Yes, there's a chance we will get screwed out of getting picks for him through an offseason trade and I would love to see Tony get a shot at a title. But make no mistake that I am also glad to see him still in a Chiefs jersey. I will appreciate every game that I get to watch Tony in a Chiefs uniform for the rest of the year and hope that Brodie can get a little something going to at least make the games somewhat fun for Gonzo.