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    5 minutes left in the game. A couple first downs away from a guaranteed win or just 1 first down away from making it very difficult to lose. What do we do? Play action bootleg which worked great all day. NO. A quick sideline pass on 2nd or 3rd down for 4 yards like we had been getting all day. NO. Maybe we should come out in a passing formation and run or a running formation and pass. NO. How about run to the left 3 times and punt it. Thats what Herm / Chan did. Thats why we lost. We gave BRETT FAVRE a football with 3 minutes left in the 4th quarter of a football game. Herm should know what happens when those events occur. He coached in Tampa for years, played against Brett a few times. Oh, how could I forget. This happened last year didnt it? Against Brett, right?
    In the post game press conference Herm Edwards (like usual) took all the blame off of himself, saying: We thought we could run the ball at that time and Kolby slipped on 3rd down or he would have got it. My bad Herm. I forgot. Its all Kolbys fault. HOLD ON. Did you say "I thought we could run the ball," because last time I checked, we couldnt run all day. JC had one good run and other than that the running game was nothing. Herm continued to say that If DJ didnt drop that pick in the red zone that this was a much different ball game. How bout this you spineless b.asterd. If we would of went for it on one of the four, 4th and 1's, it could have been a different game. Herm Edwards is spineless, scared, content and arrogant and when you mix that all up with bad clock management, you become a giant peice of worthless crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmlamerson View Post
    Our current management is as bad or worse than the Lions/Bengals current management. The Bengals were once a SB-worthy NFL franchise who were done in by poor management and are now a laughingstock. The Chiefs are headed in the exact same direction. All three teams have gone a very long time without a playoff win.

    None of these teams are able to put forth a competitive team in today's NFL.

    I will put Carl Peterson/Herm Edwards against any other GM/Coach in history as being the most destructive to a franchise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmlamerson View Post
    Unless they change their GM and coach and get some talent, they'll be lucky to do that next year.
    Thats what its all about.

    I wont argue with all your points. But I will say that in the NFL..a team can change from zero to heros in one season (like the 98 Rams, 4-12 to SB next season). Now that dont happen most the time.. but in 3 seasons anything is possible.

    Who knows what coaching staff we'll have in three years. Hopefully Cowher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canada View Post
    Its funny to me how you still seem to think that the sun rises and sets on Jared. You have a long winded post about how underacheiving all of the chiefs are yet Jared has 4 sacks and he is the key to turning it all around for us. You can quote numbers and stats all day but it does not change the fact that we adressed several needs with the trade of Jared Allen. We got the best D lineman in the draft, we got a great O lineman and corners, TE, etc...You are projecting what these guys are going to do this year. NEWS FLASH...we all know they are not doing great this year, but they are rookies. You say we won't be good in three years cause everyone good is going to leave. Another great theory. I guess you could be right. Nothing is going to be OK. Everyone who said we had one of the best drafts this year is dead wrong and you...you got it right. you can see what no one else can. Guess you showed us all what is going to happen!! thanks for your insight and telling us all!!
    We did not get any corners for JA. We got a mixture of Albert, Cottam, and Morgan.

    We would have drafted Albert or other OL with the 5th pick if not for the luxury of the 15th (turned 12th). Trading JA gave us the luxury to draft Dorsey with the 5th pick.

    Dorsey is looking like a bust, and good franchises rarely draft DT in the first few picks because the money is too much for a player on a learining curve.

    We traded a double-digit sack DE in his prime for project players and backups.

    We did not need Cottam or Morgan, and they will not see significant playing time in their 1st contracts. We drafted backups at glamour positions instead of starting linemen.

    How is this difficult for you to understand?

    And what makes it worse, is that trading JA, while idiotic, was not even in the top-5 worst decisions of the Peterson/Edwards era.

    Look, it stinks that this team stinks. You have a GM/coach who are tearing this team down at a level unprecedented in the NFL. If KC were a major market, everyone would be wondering how these clowns are getting away with this.

    And those with a blind belief in our "rebuilding" plan deserve the present and future lousy product on the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sn@keIze View Post
    Thats what its all about.

    I wont argue with all your points. But I will say that in the NFL..a team can change from zero to heros in one season (like the 98 Rams, 4-12 to SB next season). Now that dont happen most the time.. but in 3 seasons anything is possible.

    Who knows what coaching staff we'll have in three years. Hopefully Cowher.
    I agree entirely. In 1998, the Rams went 4-12 and were seen as perrenial losers.

    In the offseason, the Rams traded for Marshall Faulk, found an unlikely QB in Kurt Warner, drafted Tory Holt and Dre Bly, and signed good free agents. Their superlative drafts in 1997 and 1998 also paid big dividends. They also signed a new OC, Mike Martz, who ran a high scoring offense.

    Do you see the current Chiefs management doing these things? Under the Carl/Herm tenure, they haven't signed any good free agents, traded for any good players, drafted impact players, run even a medium scoring offense, or found a QB of the future.

    A new management can do this. And my negative comments are based on the very real prospect of current management and their handpicked successors running this team for the next decade.

    A new regime could change things. And I'll become much more positive the second we have a new regime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmlamerson View Post
    We did not get any corners for JA. We got a mixture of Albert, Cottam, and Morgan.

    We would have drafted Albert or other OL with the 5th pick if not for the luxury of the 15th (turned 12th). Trading JA gave us the luxury to draft Dorsey with the 5th pick.

    Dorsey is looking like a bust, and good franchises rarely draft DT in the first few picks because the money is too much for a player on a learining curve.

    We traded a double-digit sack DE in his prime for project players and backups.

    We did not need Cottam or Morgan, and they will not see significant playing time in their 1st contracts. We drafted backups at glamour positions instead of starting linemen.

    How is this difficult for you to understand?

    And what makes it worse, is that trading JA, while idiotic, was not even in the top-5 worst decisions of the Peterson/Edwards era.

    Look, it stinks that this team stinks. You have a GM/coach who are tearing this team down at a level unprecedented in the NFL. If KC were a major market, everyone would be wondering how these clowns are getting away with this.

    And those with a blind belief in our "rebuilding" plan deserve the present and future lousy product on the field.
    I dont think its fair to say that any rookie is a bust. We got to give them time.
    Now next year theyllgo in, having gottin theyre arses kicked a bit and eyes opened a lil more, hopefully theyll be better.
    Plus Coaching and bad playcalling are assisiting in these players not performing up to par. I dont care how good a player you are, you run the same vanilla D (and offense) the opponents are figure you out and render you useless.

    Now I will start ripping on Tamba Hali. He should be performing like the 1st rounder he was by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canada View Post
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    Matt Millen took the Lions from 9-7 to 2-14. Carl/Herm has taken this team from 10-6 to 1-15.

    Matt Millen may have drafted very, very poorly - but he drafted better than Carl/Herm.

    I would take the Lions right now against the Chiefs on a neutral field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sn@keIze View Post
    I dont think its fair to say that any rookie is a bust. We got to give them time.
    Now next year theyllgo in, having gottin theyre arses kicked a bit and eyes opened a lil more, hopefully theyll be better.
    Plus Coaching and bad playcalling are assisiting in these players not performing up to par. I dont care how good a player you are, you run the same vanilla D (and offense) the opponents are figure you out and render you useless.

    Now I will start ripping on Tamba Hali. He should be performing like the 1st rounder he was by now.
    You're right. And I don't mean to call Dorsey a bust. All I am trying to get people to understand that Dorsey's value to this franchise is not nearly equal to what JA's would have been over the next 5-6 years. That Dorsey (like almost every DT out there) will take a great deal of time to become acclimated to the NFL. That we are vastly overpaying for his production for the next few years. That good franchises rarely draft DTs in the top 5 because of the price tag for a learning player. That good franchises never trade a franchise DE.

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    I think there's a lot more "Hali Haters" than deserved. Give the guy a break, he had more sacks his rookie year than Mario Williams. And he's been playing out of position until last week, since for whatever reason Gunther decided to stick him at right end when he's played left his entire life.

    Now if he keeps under-performing even with the switch back to left end, then I think it would be fair to start criticizing him, but until then we should solely blame management IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmlamerson View Post
    Matt Millen took the Lions from 9-7 to 2-14. Carl/Herm has taken this team from 10-6 to 1-15.

    Matt Millen may have drafted very, very poorly - but he drafted better than Carl/Herm.

    I would take the Lions right now against the Chiefs on a neutral field.
    When were we 1-15?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sn@keIze View Post
    When were we 1-15?
    Now.

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