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    Default Please stop dreaming about trading LJ!

    Look, I understand that we don't want to cut LJ and take the cap hit. I understand we don't want to keep him and his behavior problems on the team. I understand we all think/know he can be a 1500/year back still in this league, and don't want to trade him for peanuts.

    But everyone needs to realize that: We aren't getting high draft picks or starting players for LJ.

    No team is going to trade a decent pick for a 30-year-old guy with his injury history, suspension threat, his 416 carry season, behavior problems, and big salary. He's a good one-dimensional back that can't block or catch well and who fumbled five times in 2008. Not to mention that RBs past 30 don't last for long historically.

    Many teams might be interested in him as a FA, but GMs are become cheaper and cheaper at RB as everyone figures out the OL is becoming more and more important than individual RB talent. Playoff teams like the Colts (Rhodes), Giants (Ward and Bradshaw), Pittsburgh (Moore), and Cards (Hightower) have been able to plug in low round picks or cheap FAs as starters this year specifically for that reason. Big money contracts are not given to 30+ RBs anymore, especially one-dimenional ones.

    Our best case is probably a 5th rounder for him. And that's only if we get very lucky with a very dumb GM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaschief View Post
    Really? This is the Cardinals we're talking about here. I think you're giving them WAY too much credit.

    Exactly...isn't Kurt Warner like 72 years old now too? They could use an aging piece of sh*t like LJ...okay, we'll take Boldin straight up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunker Hillbilly View Post
    You guys are fooling yourselves if you even think the cardinals are in play here!!!!! First of all, the cardinals O line isn't much better than the Chiefs and second of all and more importantly, the Cardinals are a pass first team!! Kurt Warner plus Boldin and Fitzgerald equal not many carries for ANY RB hence the displeasure that James has voiced in the last couple of weeks.
    While I agree that the Cardinals have a high powered passing attack, it is for other reasons they don't go for LJ. They are paying their wide receivers a lot of money instead of a running back. Not a bad idea. However, the Cardinals have a way better O-line than the Chiefs. It's not even fair to compare.

    But it is not crazy to think that LJ will be traded. You guys can complain all you want that LJ will not traded. But the thing is that you will not get the rest of us to want to keep LJ. If he gets traded, great. We were right. If LJ gets cut, great. He is off the team. No matter what you say will not change the fact that LJ needs to go. So go ahead and debate where LJ will end up because I'll just be happy he is gone.

    Good luck to the rest of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmlamerson View Post
    Look, I understand that we don't want to cut LJ and take the cap hit. I understand we don't want to keep him and his behavior problems on the team. I understand we all think/know he can be a 1500/year back still in this league, and don't want to trade him for peanuts.

    But everyone needs to realize that: We aren't getting high draft picks or starting players for LJ.

    No team is going to trade a decent pick for a 30-year-old guy with his injury history, suspension threat, his 416 carry season, behavior problems, and big salary. He's a good one-dimensional back that can't block or catch well and who fumbled five times in 2008. Not to mention that RBs past 30 don't last for long historically.

    Many teams might be interested in him as a FA, but GMs are become cheaper and cheaper at RB as everyone figures out the OL is becoming more and more important than individual RB talent. Playoff teams like the Colts (Rhodes), Giants (Ward and Bradshaw), Pittsburgh (Moore), and Cards (Hightower) have been able to plug in low round picks or cheap FAs as starters this year specifically for that reason. Big money contracts are not given to 30+ RBs anymore, especially one-dimenional ones.

    Our best case is probably a 5th rounder for him. And that's only if we get very lucky with a very dumb GM.
    I never expected to get alot for him considering his past. In fact I don't think any team(except for the Lions maybe)who would want him and his baggage. Just as long as he isn't with the chiefs, I'm happy.
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    I love how we, as fans from a forum of a team with a 2-14 record, are making fun of how stupid the Arizona Cardinals are and could trade them LJ cause they're that dumb.. for real? LJ maybe traded somewhere due to the sole reason that he asked to leave, but there's so many good RB's now that he's nothing overly special to look at. The teams I would expect to think about it are teams like CIN, CLE, TB, SEA, but again there's tons of solid backs not even considering the draft prospects who are coming in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theaxeeffect4311 View Post
    While I agree that the Cardinals have a high powered passing attack, it is for other reasons they don't go for LJ. They are paying their wide receivers a lot of money instead of a running back. Not a bad idea. However, the Cardinals have a way better O-line than the Chiefs. It's not even fair to compare.

    But it is not crazy to think that LJ will be traded. You guys can complain all you want that LJ will not traded. But the thing is that you will not get the rest of us to want to keep LJ. If he gets traded, great. We were right. If LJ gets cut, great. He is off the team. No matter what you say will not change the fact that LJ needs to go. So go ahead and debate where LJ will end up because I'll just be happy he is gone.

    Good luck to the rest of you.
    Trust me, I watch every Cardinals game along with every Chiefs game and there truly is not that much of a difference! While money is a consideration as to why Arizona will not be in any trade conversations for LJ but even if money were no issue, that just is not the type of team the Cardinals are. Never have been! For the last 20 years they have been a more pass oriented team. With the exception of the Larry Centers years, they have not had any luck with the run mainly due to the fact that their O line has historically been one of the worst in the NFL.

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    No matter where LJ goes next year, he will be a friggin beast like you have never seen. Thats how this guy gets down. Maybe he made some off the field mistakes, but as far as he's concerned, the Chiefs let him and the rest of the team down by not running the ball and he IS gonna make them pay for it. I truely beleive that we didnt run the ball because we couldnt with our line (we went to the spread offense), but I dont think LJ cares about that. If LJ runs for less than 1500 next year, Im shocked.


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    I honestly don't care if we trade LJ, I don't care if he he ends up being the #1 RB - I just want him gone.
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    we'll see... it hasn't even started to hit the fan yet, Chiefs fans.
    Thanks for all the yards, TDs, and memories, Priest!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Daddy Tek View Post
    No matter where LJ goes next year, he will be a friggin beast like you have never seen. Thats how this guy gets down. Maybe he made some off the field mistakes, but as far as he's concerned, the Chiefs let him and the rest of the team down by not running the ball and he IS gonna make them pay for it. I truely beleive that we didnt run the ball because we couldnt with our line (we went to the spread offense), but I dont think LJ cares about that. If LJ runs for less than 1500 next year, Im shocked.

    When we tried traditional running he was hit behind the line most of the time in each game we did it. He gives about a half a$$ effort and is a cancer in the locker room. Just my opinion & observation but I'd like to see him go whether we get anything for him.

    How nice would it look to have Charles and Ward (Giants) back there? His contract is up this year according to ESPN...
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    Remember the Broncos went through six RB's this year. They may look for somebody.
    Thanks for all the yards, TDs, and memories, Priest!

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