Should the Chiefs trade LJ away?

[honda522]

We traded a Pro-bowler away, Jared Allen. We did get compensated draft picks. Jared wanted out, he hated the King and more. Now, Johnson wants out.

The difference is Johnson plays on his emotions. Larry said he does NOT want to play for the Chiefs. In fact, for my point of view he hasn't tried to make a big impact.

It all started when he held out of training camp for a raise. I don't think he ever really like Kansas City to begin with. In 2005, I saw alot of effort when he took the ball, and in 06' he struggled because the offensive line struggled. Then he broke his ankle or what ever. In 07' he lacked the ability's to make quick cut backs. In 08' it just got worse. I will give him credit to the line not blocking and Herm for not conditioning him or even the rest of the team for that matter.

We have Kobly Smith and Jamal Charles. I think they will do just fine, in the mean time patch up that oline with the 3rd round pick we recive from his trade. I think we can get a third rounder for him.

So what do you think?

[Sick Dog]

Get rid of him now while he still has some value although I don't think they get to much for him.

[chiefnut]

cause we won't get enuf for him, probably more valuable to us to keep him

[Bike]

Ah, this has been discussed numerous times in this forum. You might want to considering reading some previous posts before starting new threads on your own.
Having said that, nobody in their right mind is gonna trade for a 30 y/o rb with sh!t attitude and a huge contract.
If we can trade LJ for - say - a can of dog food (Aldi's), I'd say make the trade.
Otherwise we squeeze out the remainder of his 47 mil contract extension on the field, or eat his contract and release him.

[honda522]

Ah, this has been discussed numerous times in this forum. You might want to considering reading some previous posts before starting new threads on your own.
Having said that, nobody in their right mind is gonna trade for a 30 y/o rb with sh!t attitude and a huge contract.
If we can trade LJ for - say - a can of dog food (Aldi's), I'd say make the trade.
Otherwise we squeeze out the remainder of his 47 mil contract extension on the field, or eat his contract and release him.

I didn't see any on the first page, and I didn't bother going back. I think some team might want him and are willing to give a late round pick for him. Seahawks??? Possibly AZ if they don't want Edge around or he doesnt want to stick. Bears, Lions...I could see him going to Denver with their RB situation with all their RB's getting hurt. Houston might like a decent back up, along with the Browns. I could even see him going to NE.

I think all those teams could use a decent RB, he could be a backup to someone.

[Bike]

I didn't see any on the first page, and I didn't bother going back. I think some team might want him and are willing to give a late round pick for him. Seahawks??? Possibly AZ if they don't want Edge around or he doesnt want to stick. Bears, Lions...I could see him going to Denver with their RB situation with all their RB's getting hurt. Houston might like a decent back up, along with the Browns. I could even see him going to NE.

I think all those teams could use a decent RB, he could be a backup to someone.

I gotta agree with you Honda that the above teams need rb help, but LJ? I don't know. He's not the same back as he was 3-4 years ago, is a locker room cancer, and has a huge contract that somebodys' gotta eat. I mean - why bother? Why not just draft a young, hungry back?

[honda522]

I gotta agree with you Honda that the above teams need rb help, but LJ? I don't know. He's not the same back as he was 3-4 years ago, is a locker room cancer, and has a huge contract that somebodys' gotta eat. I mean - why bother? Why not just draft a young, hungry back?

IMO, there are not that many great RB's this year. They got Moreno as the Number 1 in the RB's. Second is Benie Wells, his is injury prone. and 3rd is McCoy. Thats from ESPNs top 32 scout list. If your looking at 8 or 9 teams there are not enough top ranked backs....but then to consider in that there could be a 5th round pick up at RB who could be a total stud.

Bottom line is the you cant rely on the draft for good player. Its a risk.

[Bike]

IMO, there are not that many great RB's this year. They got Moreno as the Number 1 in the RB's. Second is Benie Wells, his is injury prone. and 3rd is McCoy. Thats from ESPNs top 32 scout list. If your looking at 8 or 9 teams there are not enough top ranked backs....but then to consider in that there could be a 5th round pick up at RB who could be a total stud.

Bottom line is the you cant rely on the draft for good player. Its a risk.

Well, I mean, you do build teams through the draft.
LJ and his HUGE cap hit would be much more of a risk...
And don't forget Shown Greene from Iowa.

[jap1]

Everyone always says "locker room cancer." But honestly I cannot remember him ever getting into an argument or any mention of him directly affecting other players. Yeah, he is not the team leader that you want/need out of a guy with that kind of contract. But I have never seen any evidence of him bringing down other players. The only thing I have ever heard from him is that he want/needs more carries to be effective. Which is true for his style of playing. He is a wear down the defense running-back. And when you are told you are the centerpiece of an offense, and then get 10 carries, I dont blame you for being upset. LJ's comments have always been about him and the coaching. He has never (and easily could/should have) complained about his horrific O-line, or (until Thigpen and the spread was installed) being the only legitimate threat on offense and running against 8/9 people in the box and getting hit behind the line.

TO is a locker room cancer, he creates animosity between other players and between players and coaching staff. Steve Smith broke his teammates face in a fight before the game. I think there are much worse examples of "locker room cancers" than LJ.

When a player speaks out to the media, that is usually a sign of a coaching problem. There is usually a lot of talk between coaches and players before he takes his dirty laundry out of the locker room. Bring in a coach that treats the players (all of them) right and earns their respect, then you wont hear about them speaking out to the media.

If I am wrong about LJ's effect on other players, and what he has said about them (if anything) please correct me.

As far as what I know for sure, LJ averaged 4.5 yards/carry. That makes him tied for the 9th best average in the year. Yes he does make a crapload of money, probably more than he was worth. Yes he has said he wants out, but he also said he wants out because he does not feel welcomed.

My vote is to keep him and get our money's worth so that we dont have to waste a draft pick or FA pickup on a RB. His contract is too high to be worth a trade, unless he takes a pay cut. Remember if we cut him, we still are on the hook for a crap-load of money, and he will get picked up by the Broncos and then run all over our horrible D (unless we make drastic changes).

Thats my two cents.

[honda522]

It seems when he really need the yardage, he didn't get it. I hope if he is on the team, he is a bench warm.

I just cant stand his attitude. This is why I want Priest back. :(