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    stick with thigpen and have gray as second string and maybe huard as third. get rid of croyle all together

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canada View Post
    Sorry, but this does not sound like a ringing endorsement of how good we are gonna be next year. It is possible to get a QB at #3 AND improve the O line.
    We're going to be much better next year if we pick a LT instead of a QB in the 1st round.

    That's all I've written.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmlamerson View Post
    We're going to be much better next year if we pick a LT instead of a QB in the 1st round.

    That's all I've written.
    No, you wrote about the option of having a QB get knocked down all the time if we pick one in the third round.

    What if that LT is a bust?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canada View Post
    No, you wrote about the option of having a QB get knocked down all the time if we pick one in the third round.

    What if that LT is a bust?
    The question here was about who to pick in the 1st round, a QB or not. I never opined about the 3rd round at all - simply because this really isn't the thread for it.

    It's my opinion that picking a LT in the first round, like Miami with Long last year, gives us the better long term and short term chance of success than trying to find OL help later in this draft. I think that waiting until later rounds and signing undrafted FAs to get OL help is the biggest reason we've done so poorly these past few years.

    If we're looking to protect a young QB, we probably need 2-3 new starters on the OL. And I don't want to see our QBOTF pick go down in flames because he has a bunch of 2nd day picks trying to man the OL.

    You can try to change the meaning of what I wrote, but it's in black and white. We can't keep putting off our OL problems forever. The Chiefs will never groom a decent QB without a solid OL to protect him. If we don't get that solid line, see Carr, David for the result.

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    [quote=kcmostwanted;118745]I'm not sold on the 2 top QBs, and i'm not sold on Thigpen either.
    -3rd...Are we confident we'll be able to land Sam Bradford w/ our 1st round pick???


    100% sure we will not, at least this year


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    Quote Originally Posted by jmlamerson View Post
    The question here was about who to pick in the 1st round, a QB or not. I never opined about the 3rd round at all - simply because this really isn't the thread for it.

    It's my opinion that picking a LT in the first round, like Miami with Long last year, gives us the better long term and short term chance of success than trying to find OL help later in this draft. I think that waiting until later rounds and signing undrafted FAs to get OL help is the biggest reason we've done so poorly these past few years.

    If we're looking to protect a young QB, we probably need 2-3 new starters on the OL. And I don't want to see our QBOTF pick go down in flames because he has a bunch of 2nd day picks trying to man the OL.

    You can try to change the meaning of what I wrote, but it's in black and white. We can't keep putting off our OL problems forever. The Chiefs will never groom a decent QB without a solid OL to protect him. If we don't get that solid line, see Carr, David for the result.
    Who said we were putting off our OL problem? We haven't been putting it off. Carl Peterson just thought he knew what he was doing when he got a bunch of random guys.

    McIntosh kick-started at the end of last year, but that is way to late and unacceptable. Not to mention he is almost as fragile as Brodie.

    I would go on about the rest of the guys the idiot brought in, but this isn't about the OL.

    Absolutely not. No QB. There are very few QBs in the entire draft that are worthy of being drafted. Maybe 4-5. We should most definately sign of few of the undrafted and check them out during TC and the preseason.

    It will be interesting to see what they do eventually do with our 3rd pick. Offense or defense? Maybe trade down. Lots of people seem to think they might try to get Matt Cassel. That IMO is ridiculous and not needed. We should know which way depending on what happens in the Free Agency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcmostwanted View Post
    I'm not sold on the 2 top QBs, and i'm not sold on Thigpen either.

    Here's how I look at it (as i've mentioned 500 times before):
    -1st off...We can't go the Brodie Croyle route again (meaning we can't put all our eggs in the Thigpen basket).. Say all you want but Cleveland Browns fans know exactly what i'm talking about!
    -2nd...If we don't take our franchise QB this year, how confident are we about pulling the trigger next year?? Everyone raves about Sam, Colt, and Tebow but they all come from Spread Offenses which creates ridiculous stats + Tebow will probably be converted to play another position.
    -3rd...Are we confident we'll be able to land Sam Bradford w/ our 1st round pick???
    - Lets say Thigpen sucks it up and we go 3-13, landing the 4th pick in the draft (using this years draft order).. If Bradford goes #1 we're left in the same position we are this year... (Do we reach for a QB or do we grab the best player available????...such as ILB Brandon Spikes or DT Terrance Cody...)
    Let's say we reach for Colt McCoy in the 2010 draft and he sucks it up because he can't adjust to playing under-center...What will we do then??

    There are too many IFs in the Draft, but I still feel if we're confident in one of the 2 young QBs this year, then we should pull the trigger so we'll have a head start (you know so we can at least see what we have for our future)...

    If we don't draft a QB and Thigpen fails, then our 2009 season will go down the drain...But if we draft one, we'll at least have someone to learn the system for a year before we throw them in the fire...

    If thiggy and our QBOTF both turn out to be studs...well, it's not a bad problem to have..
    I didn't really read this. I just saw the name Tebow. I just wanted to say Tebow should not even be mentioned with the others in that statement. He is not an NFL QB. He has A LOT to improve on next year if he seriously wants to play in the NFL. Accuracy and his release are the biggies he needs to work on. He is sure as heck not gonna be running all over the place in the NFL.

    Sorry. A bit off topic. Just thought I'd say that. I'm not a huge fan of his. Plus everyone thinks he is amazingly good but he isn't.

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    I agree with alot of people here.

    I don't think we should pick up a QB in the first round. And I do think Thigpen should be given a chance. I think as long as our defense can improve, Thigpen won't be pressured to try and score 20 points in the 4th quarter.

    I assume Pioli will pick a QB in the later rounds. Similar to what he did with Tom Brady. In fact, there are more decent QB's out there than we realize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by honda522 View Post
    I agree with alot of people here.

    I don't think we should pick up a QB in the first round. And I do think Thigpen should be given a chance. I think as long as our defense can improve, Thigpen won't be pressured to try and score 20 points in the 4th quarter.

    I assume Pioli will pick a QB in the later rounds. Similar to what he did with Tom Brady. In fact, there are more decent QB's out there than we realize.
    exactly what I want to happen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Codac View Post
    Who said we were putting off our OL problem? We haven't been putting it off. Carl Peterson just thought he knew what he was doing when he got a bunch of random guys.

    McIntosh kick-started at the end of last year, but that is way to late and unacceptable. Not to mention he is almost as fragile as Brodie.

    I would go on about the rest of the guys the idiot brought in, but this isn't about the OL.
    I think we agree. The OL needs to be built this offseason, by FA or by drat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmlamerson View Post
    The question here was about who to pick in the 1st round, a QB or not. I never opined about the 3rd round at all - simply because this really isn't the thread for it.

    It's my opinion that picking a LT in the first round, like Miami with Long last year, gives us the better long term and short term chance of success than trying to find OL help later in this draft. I think that waiting until later rounds and signing undrafted FAs to get OL help is the biggest reason we've done so poorly these past few years.

    If we're looking to protect a young QB, we probably need 2-3 new starters on the OL. And I don't want to see our QBOTF pick go down in flames because he has a bunch of 2nd day picks trying to man the OL.

    You can try to change the meaning of what I wrote, but it's in black and white. We can't keep putting off our OL problems forever. The Chiefs will never groom a decent QB without a solid OL to protect him. If we don't get that solid line, see Carr, David for the result.
    OK pumpkin, no one is trying to change the meaning of what you wrote but here you have said the same thing with an explanation and it makes sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmlamerson View Post
    Um, what about the other option?

    If we pick a QB at 3, and both he and Thigpen fail because they have no one to block for them . . .
    Here you sound like you are saying the O line is gonna suck. See the difference? I am not changing anything. You typed it.
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