wow... now we need to replace Waters!!

**texaschief** · 02-27-2009, 01:22 AM

ugh!!!

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chi...y/1057650.html

Here's hoping Haley is a stop-gap coach and one of the big guys will be signed next season. Like I said before, the best way to develop an opinion of a coach is by how the vets feel about him. If Haley's guys in Arizona didn't like him and now BRIAN EFFING WATERS of all people want to get away from him.... things can't go well with this guy.

**jap1** · 02-27-2009, 01:28 AM

Im hoping this is not true. Otherwise we can pretty much guarantee a 2-3 year "rebuilding" or "building" period. Whatever you want to call it, we will have way too many holes to fill. Too many to even plug in patchwork players. If he leaves, then we need at least 3 new linemen (im not convinced Niswanger is less than average).

Sigh

**texaschief** · 02-27-2009, 01:45 AM

I'm sorry, but am I the only one extremely underwhelmed by the Pioli/Haley management thus far? They have yet to name a DC, haven't completed their coaching staff and took forever to get the guys who they DID hire. Then, these guys they hired were responsible for some of the most mediocre defenses in the last few years. They won't release ANY info, no matter how mundane it may be... (Like, who cares about the tenders the three RFA's got today? Their agents are about to let everyone know EXACTLY what they were offered... why not just save everyone the hassle and say what you offered them?)

Now, these jackasses are running off the NFL's GREATEST person. How effed up do things have to be to make Brian Waters ask for a release or trade?

I don't want to make any snap judgements, but this just seems like one big cluster#$%#. I have SERIOUS doubts about Haley's ability to be an effective HC. He's not bringing in a good staff to surround him and he's already got 2 of the 3 Pro Bowlers on this team asking for a trade. He's cut the other two (Surtain, Edwards). Not that I necessarily disagree with the Surtain, Edwards releases. I'm just saying, it doesn't look like this guy is going to do so well attracting vets or even coaching them.

**Pro_Angler** · 02-28-2009, 10:44 AM

Quote:

I don't want to make any snap judgements, but this just seems like one big cluster#$%#. I have SERIOUS doubts about Haley's ability to be an effective HC. He's not bringing in a good staff to surround him and he's already got 2 of the 3 Pro Bowlers on this team asking for a trade. He's cut the other two (Surtain, Edwards). Not that I necessarily disagree with the Surtain, Edwards releases. I'm just saying, it doesn't look like this guy is going to do so well attracting vets or even coaching them.[/quote]

read somne of my past post's I HATE THE HALEY HIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!! I THINK IT WAS STUPID AND RETARDED NOT TO KEEP CHAN AS INTERUM AND SEE NEXT YEAR WHEN THERE ARE ACTUALLY CIOACHES AVAILABLE NOT ONE YEAR WONDER COORDINATORS THAT CAN'T EVEN HOLD A CONVERSATION WITH THE PRESS.

**Three7s** · 02-28-2009, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by Pro_Angler

Quote:

I don't want to make any snap judgements, but this just seems like one big cluster#$%#. I have SERIOUS doubts about Haley's ability to be an effective HC. He's not bringing in a good staff to surround him and he's already got 2 of the 3 Pro Bowlers on this team asking for a trade. He's cut the other two (Surtain, Edwards). Not that I necessarily disagree with the Surtain, Edwards releases. I'm just saying, it doesn't look like this guy is going to do so well attracting vets or even coaching them.

read somne of my past post's I HATE THE HALEY HIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!! I THINK IT WAS STUPID AND RETARDED NOT TO KEEP CHAN AS INTERUM AND SEE NEXT YEAR WHEN THERE ARE ACTUALLY CIOACHES AVAILABLE NOT ONE YEAR WONDER COORDINATORS THAT CAN'T EVEN HOLD A CONVERSATION WITH THE PRESS.[/quote]
Does caps lock help prove a point? Boo hoo.

**Sn@keIze** · 02-28-2009, 12:47 PM

I didnt like Haley being considered before he was hired.
Simply because of our defensive woes. And didnt see an offensive guy be the one who fixes the problem.

But Im not going to be so quick to say he or Pioli is bad.

I think this all depends who our DC is and how its run.

This whole thing could be something the Star has something to write about to cause drama and job security while its NFL offseason.

**hardcorechiefsfan** · 02-27-2009, 01:49 AM

Originally Posted by jap1

... (im not convinced Niswanger is less than average).

Sigh

Niswanger the center??? Anyone can be the center. I would think it would be kinda like playing Hot Potato with the football!

**texaschief** · 02-27-2009, 01:50 AM

Niswanger needs to be moved to guard

**texaschief** · 02-27-2009, 01:58 AM

What can we get for Waters in a trade? mid-late 2nd rounder?

**Big Daddy Tek** · 02-27-2009, 02:47 AM

Pioli could give a sh!t what any player thinks about anything. This is a guy who cut or traded Deion Branch, Ty law, Lawyer Milloy, Asante Samuel, Drew Bledsoe, and others. You think he cares if Brian Waters is crying? He!! no. Listen Tex, I love Brian and Tony and even LJ, but these guys do not mess around, your replacement is always right around the corner and if your under contract then you are owned! Brian better get ready for OTA's in a couple months.